Wicked Whims 'legit' Incest ?

[X1aowei]

Is the a possible way to allow sims 'naturally' incest with each other ? I mean I know there is a global cheat or reward trait given to enable incest in sims4. But I would like to looking for a gameplay that can allow each of the family members building their relationship at first, and then slowing in love with each other, and finally lead to a sex (Incest). Or there could be a mod that make incest trait as a hidden trait that needed to be unlock with certain requirement ? I'm trying to make my sims getting into incest relationship as hard as possible instead of just using the cheat to do it. As incest relationship is a very rare case in real life. 

Edited October 29, 2021 by X1aowei

[MrGrey]

No. Incest is either on or off and off in the patreon version, you need the unlock to get it to work. I'm guessing Patreon rules against subject matter involving incest has a lot to do with that. So, with it off it's forbidden and no way around it. With it on? It's not even worth a mention and related sims just jump on each other like everyone else.

Yes, some game play would be nice. Best I can figure is to set WW unlocked to global incest and then make a mod to disallow incest unless certain conditions are met, like "desire", "attraction" or whatever commodity is being used for sexual arousal for another sim is very high in both sims. It always seemed discombobulated and even annoying when you're doing the serial romancer aspiration and you're trying to get the romance up to where you can kiss your dates hands but your sim starts sex instead, because romance/friendship is way over the sex threshold but not high enough for kissing the date's hands.  Pretty much WW is just an animation player for folks who want to watch animations.

It's so lame I don't even bother.

[Chlodwig]

 

 

 

 

On 10/29/2021 at 7:20 AM, X1aowei said:

Is the a possible way to allow sims 'naturally' incest with each other ? I mean I know there is a global cheat or reward trait given to enable incest in sims4. But I would like to looking for a gameplay that can allow each of the family members building their relationship at first, and then slowing in love with each other, and finally lead to a sex (Incest). Or there could be a mod that make incest trait as a hidden trait that needed to be unlock with certain requirement ? I'm trying to make my sims getting into incest relationship as hard as possible instead of just using the cheat to do it. As incest relationship is a very rare case in real life. 

 

Well  than the Global Switch or the Trait  is exactly what you want.

 

because setting the switch allows (like the trait) relatives to build up a  romantic relationship  and when that romantic relationship is strong enough they can have incestual sex. 

The only "problem"  would be that this isn't more difficult than getting a normal romantic relationship with any other sim.

 

The Global switch just allows anyone to develop incestual relationships

while the Trait only allows the persons (both persons need the trait) to develop an incestual relationship

 

 

Maybe you use first the global switch and after X Days in Game you look who developed a incestual romantic relationship on its own

and than you give these persons the incest trait and deactivate the global switch.

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2021 by Chlodwig

[MrGrey]

Yeah. No one wants to walk in on Mortimer Goth banging Cassandra and be grossed out if the incest barrier is turned off. The problem is the lack of game play: incest is either not possible and can't be considered, or it's absolutely no barrier and nothing so much as a "mother fucker" or "what did I do with my relative?!" buff .  Having to resort to  the trait system and manually adding a trait or changing an option is such a big cheat it breaks immersion and loses the opportunity for some game play.

Options would be:

• Incest requires higher desire/attraction than normal sex. I think there  is a "desire" commodity in wicked whims. Not sure. You could make it a tiered system: cousins slightly higher than unrelated, blood Aunts/Uncles higher still, nuclear family highest barrier.
• Using Love potions like "Transcendent desire" on a relative (once you unlock it with a mod by setting "test_incest" to false). With the romance required feature, you couldn't normally romance a relative so incest would be rare. Maybe a new potion "Transcendent lust" raise lust levels between sims without romance.
• The vampire command to be promiscuous could make a relative open to incest for as long as it has effect. If you want to make it a challenge, make it only work on blood related vampires using Command power once "Master Vampire" aspiration has been achieved.
• A  sim ray option under mind control.
• The "woohoo" talk leads to sex by adding follow up questions (Interactions)
• Bragging about messing around leads to messing around by adding follow up interactions.
• The "Free Love" community trait makes incest possible to gain community influence if community influence is low and a family sim has a trait that would benefit from higher community influence e.g. has an eco trait and would like to have water conservation day. 
• The "have sex" club feature makes incest possible but not as like as with unrelated sims.
• Love day, but has no boy/girl friend so date a relative.
• Add a costume party goal of having sex with someone in a costume, accidentally woohoo with a relative, and liking it (e.g. level 3 or better sex skill) and establishing a incestuous relationship between sims

 

 

 

[bovadi]

Yes, but I believe that without the global switch or having the trait, you can't even do romantic interactions.

You should:
- Be able to have romantic interactions with a family member, only if friendship above a certain threshold and should progress way slower.
- Once you progress enough, you should be able to do sexual things that don't include penetration and if you do that a couple of times be "rewarded" with the incestuous trait, that will let you progress romance quicker with family members and then let you do the penetrative sex. (imho vaginal/anal >> oral >> handjob >> teasing, but for ww it's all sex)
Also, it's not all incest equal: a cousin/aunt/etc. is fair game legally in some places and I believe that playing doctor with a cousin of your age being young is a lot more common that having sex with your father/mother.

[MrGrey]

It isn't about the laws, or even social norms. heck, the President of the US took showers with his daughter and no one cares. It's about Patreon rules.

All in all, unless you're starting with a fresh new character in a new game, sex is way too simplistic and easy. Sex, in and of itself, is repetitive and boring unless you're doing it. ?  I think the sex adds to the game; for most WW players sex IS the game and all they do is watch sex animations.

 

I mean, it's not just Incest. it's the big three, the other two being "hates children" (absolute ban on any kind of non-birth control) and "in a relationship". There's no challenge, it's all "very easy, just ask" or "Not at all, ever".  No game play. As I said many times, it's harder to get the kiss interaction than the sex interaction. And there's no good sex vs. bad sex, other than a buff that you don't even notice. Pretty sure giving someone "oral" and not getting any erogenous zone interaction in return is frustrating, but they still get a good sex buff.

Edited April 4, 2022 by MrGrey