emes Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 I'm getting some absolutely bizarre scaling problems during sex events I haven't been able to figure out. Does anyone have a clue what might be causing it? Usually, I'll have one event that will work fine, but every on after it will have this problem. (I've tried rebuilding SL, but it ends up doing the same thing.) Example here is an Estrus animation. My character is actually at the feet of my follower; she's become ultra tiny except for some strands of hair, which are shooting out everywhere like a grotesque spider. I've zoomed in as much as I could to get an idea of what was actually happening. Spoiler I can try to provide a load order, but my game is a bit of a cluster with all of the merged mods in there. (Not sure of an easy way to get the contents of the merged mods. They tend to be things like patches for Morrowloot, Missives, Legacy of the Dragonborn, Cutting Room Floor, Ordinator, etc.) Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. 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nilead Posted September 8, 2021 Posted September 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, emes said: I'm getting some absolutely bizarre scaling problems during sex events I haven't been able to figure out. Does anyone have a clue what might be causing it? Cant say im familiar with everything you run, but there is a bunch of mods that screw with character body there, so issue is very likely among those. Id try resetting Inflation framework, and any individual mod, particularly if there are any not managed by infaltion framework. With luck -that should suffice. Alternatively you can try to bypass issue instead of solving it. If disabling SL scaling completely solves the issue - use another ESP to equalize actor heights by race. Get any mod that tweaks race heights and set values to something uniform, then load it after your npc mods. If first step doesnt help and you want to keep digging - you can use NetImmerse Override Cleaner to force the reset bypassing potential issues with MCMs etc, and then basicly trial and error your way to problematic mod. Honestly - id suggest bypassing SL scaling. Ive switched of LE long ago, but i vaguely remember getting tired of issues with it to a point of giving up on it completely. No fault of framework ofcourse, it just doesnt seem like dynamicly rescaling actors is a good idea, particularly if they happen to have multiple physics - enabled items equipped.
emes Posted September 8, 2021 Author Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 10:48 AM, nilead said: Alternatively you can try to bypass issue instead of solving it. If disabling SL scaling completely solves the issue - use another ESP to equalize actor heights by race. Get any mod that tweaks race heights and set values to something uniform, then load it after your npc mods. I did have that turned off in SL, thinking it might be the cause. Doesn't seem to be the case. I had wondered if it might be something in SLIF, but I can't imagine which other mods would call for scaling during sex. I was really hoping there would be some obvious cause someone would recognize immediately, since I'm not sure I want to invest the time to try to track down the issue systematically; it's a bit of a pain since I've got the merged patch in there. It might just come down to starting fresh with SE, as I've been meaning to do that eventually. ? Update: Okay, I've had some time to do a bit of testing. I've removed: Hormones Milk Mod & Milk Addict Devious Body Alteration Fertility Mode Estrus Chaurus+ I'm still having the issue. I briefly tried removing SLIF entirely, and didn't have the problem after a few animations, but removing that is a bit undesirable, considering. ? Update 2: Nope. Even with SLIF removed, I was able to run into the problem again. I think this might just be FUBAR. Update 3: Can't say I didn't try. Rebuilt the game from scratch going by donttouchmethere's guide. Still having the problem. New load order, for what it's worth" Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SLAnimLoader.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SexLab UtilityPlus.esp UIExtensions.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuOverlays.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp FNIS.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp iHUD.esp SkyUI.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp NCK30Obj.esp SLALAnimObj.esp SLAL_AnimObj_Nymra.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp JaxonzMCMKicker.esp [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp SexLab Strapon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp XPMSE.esp nhaSimpleSexing.esp Clearly, there's something fundamental I've screwed up somewhere, but I can't seem to find it.
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