Mad Companionship Spells Giving me short Lag Spikes

[Oraclesoldier]

I'm completely and 100% sure that everytime MCS is activated my Oblivion has very short (1 second) lag spikes every 7-10 seconds. I have turned every single mod off until I got up to the one that was causing the delay, and it is Mad Companionship Spells...yet I have searched for any issues on lag with this mod in the past and everyone is suggesting it is so great. I have no doubt that the mod itself is what I want, but what is causing this lag? I don't think it's the mod, even though disabling it stops the lag.

 

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Abriael_Human.esm

Fundament.esm

LoversCreature.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

x117race.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp

Carcernus Prison.esp

Crowded Roads Revisited.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp

Hiyoko_Store.esp

LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp

EY_BM_Armory.esp

AkaviriSamuraiShop.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

Abriael_Human.esp

eyja.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

Locked Doors and Knocking v1.02.esp

DBContinuedBeta 0.7.esp

Arena_BattlesV1.2EV.esp

Knights.esp

Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp

ElsweyrAnequina.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Imperial Legion.esp

Chargeable Spells by grmblf.esp

'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Exnem1 Moonwell and Mystic Night Elf.esp

1em_Vilja.esp

CompanionMaster.esp

GG_Valeria_Revived.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

LoversLoveJuice.esp

fwRaceChangeRing.esp

AncientGuardianRobe.esp

LegendaryWeapons&Armor_2ch.esp

HTHAdvanced - Normal.esp

EM_CompInnsleeping.esp

Enchanted Hands.esp

Highwayman - Rob Anybody.esp

EnchantmentRemoval.esp

DMC4Weapons.esp

ElzMoreVoice.esp

Crowded Bruma.esp

Crowded Cheydinhal.esp

Crowded Chorrol.esp

Crowded Skingrad.esp

FLY_Weapons.esp

Enhanced Hand to hand-2329.esp

Ayleid Arcane Archer.esp

Hotkey Pro.esp

demonocus-knockoutspell.esp

Better Bows.esp

HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp

LongerUnconscious.esp

HM2SummonCompatible.esp

Essential_Merchants.esp

Bundlement.esp

BraveKnightArmor.esp

elPatrixF_SummonWorkshop.esp

elPatrixF_SummonWorkshop_ShiveringIsles.esp

Gorangas traveling merchant.esp

Gorangas Economy System.esp

Idle Dialogue.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

Colourwheels Sexy SI Armor & Clothing Replacer.esp

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

BountyReductionOverTime_standard.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

DesuChan's Store.esp

300_White Stallion 4.esp

HTBShopInABottle.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

HTBNeoSGOutfitsRedone.esp

DopplersArmory.esp

Hentai Compilation.esp

Dominatrix01.esp

DMwardropemergednoenchant.esp

Dalls_Merchant.esp

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp

kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

DremoraFemales.esp

Handsome_Gents_Addon.esp

Handsome_Gents_SI.esp

Handsome_Gents_DB_Addon.esp

Handsome_Gents_Bonus.esp

Beautiful_Women_Vampires_50.esp

Beautiful_Women_DB_Addon.esp

Beautiful_Women_NotSoNice_Bonus.esp

Beautiful_Women_NiceOnly.esp

Beautiful_Women_SI.esp

Beautiful_Women_Vampires.esp

Better Redguard v2.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversProstitute.esp

LoversTrueCrime.esp

LoversHooker.esp

LoversAdultYield.esp

LoversBed.esp

LoversMagic.esp

LoversSlaveTrader.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

LoversImmoralSisters.esp

LoversImmoralGuards.esp

LSTBravilUnderground.esp

LoversChorus.esp

LoversTamagoClub.esp

LoversEncounter.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

LoversBitch.esp

LoversPayBandit.esp

LoversRapeSlave.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversMB2.esp

LoversCreature.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

let souls be bigger and enchantments better.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

x117race.esp

Dread Knight Armor.esp

Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp

HTBFLYCollection.esp

Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

1em_Vilja_as_lop_ear_elf.esp

From2ch Lives.esp

From2ch Lives Boss.esp

F2LAddon_MSElves.esp

F2LHideRaces.esp

xeosp++.esp

 

[gregathit]

Well for starters you are running a duplicate:

Crowded Roads Revisited.esp

From2ch Lives.esp

The from 2ch lives plugin is based on the crowd roads plugin so you are effectively doubling the amount of NPC's.  On top of that you have a ton of other crowded cities plugins and each of those adds even more NPC's to the game.  Each NPC has a scripted ai for behavior and toss all of those things together and I think what you are getting with the MCS lag is just that it is putting you over the top of what your computer may be able to handle. 

 

I don't know what this plugin is but it may be causing a conflict with MCS: CompanionMaster.esp

 

This also may be a duplicate:

1em_Vilja.esp

1em_Vilja_as_lop_ear_elf.esp

Check and see if you are supposed to run both or were supposed to choose one or the other.

 

Remember that companion mods like Vilja, Valeria and Eyja are heavily scripted and all of those scripts firing off can eventually bog down your game, even if you have a strong system as Oblivion doesn't use more than one core or hyper-threading.

[Oraclesoldier]

I just tested after disabling:

 

Crowded Cities and Crowded Roads Revisited

Bundlement, Fundament

Valeria Companion Mod

All Realistic Population Mods

CompanionMaster

npcproject

CM Partners.esm

LoversStupidNPC

 

 

The spikes are still there but shorter, still every 7-10 seconds. I don't know what to try anymore. Thanks for the help you've given me so far.

 

 

[gregathit]

Again, based on what you are seeing I think you are just suffering from too many plugins, with too many scripts\NPC's and so forth for your game and\or computer to handle.

 

One thing I noticed when reviewing your load order is you are missing a master plugin: TamagoClub.esm

This may be part of your issue as well.  Tamago club does have a number of scripts that fire so the repeated firing and failing due to the missing plugin "could" be effecting things a bit.

[Gaebrial]

I have been getting the occasional 'spike' with an MCS companion following me, but usually only in caves, and usually only when there are enemies nearby (but we're not in combat). If I have a companion that is registered with MCS but who is in 'Do Free' mode, such as Vilja, I don't get the 'spikes', so I think it's something to do with the 'follow' mode.

 

I'm going to investigate further - I'll try to check if it's something to do with MCS's handling of armor/clothing changes or tail-slot items, or if it's interaction between MCS and Lovers plugins, or if it's something completely different.

 

One thing that did spring to mind - try disabling LoversJoburg and see if that has any effect.

[rynak777]

I have been running companionMaster (a little known companion mod, in the style of MCS, with very interesting features), for about 10 hours by now, and i haven't found any issues. However, i never use the "follow" and "wait" commands of companionMaster, because obviously, that would conflict with MCS orders.

 

So, i do not think that companionMaster is the culprit. I don't experience any such lag spikes running both side by side. Here's a quick rundown on what companionMaster is:

- just like MCS, one has to add companions to a "list"

- just like MCS and CSR, it can be done to any NPC

- for companions that are in the list, one gets:

a) view/edit NPC flags (essential, respawn, rumors, questitem)

view stats and skills in an actually pleasant and clean way (as opposed to how humantouch does it)

c) ability to train companion skills, if your skill is higher. Only one companion per day.

d) ability to teach companions spells, if you can cast them, and they could cast them

e) horse riding support.

f) fix double-face bug command

g) optionally control which items companions wear (this might conflict with MCS, given how MCS wear handling is a magic black box. Careful there)

h) a not so comfortable way, to order a companion with lockpicks, to try unlocking it

g) a not so comfortable way, to order a companion to attack a specific target

h) a not so comfortable way, to order a companion to move to a specific location, including sneak support! (i'm not aware of any other generic companion mod, offering this)

i) support to let companions repair/recharge gear

j) follow and move commands (definatelly conflicts with MCS, but it should only do so, if you use those commands)

 

Maybe i'll make a post about this, in my CM companions without scripting thread, not sure yet. It kinda complements it, and MCS quite well, on the other hand, its not really "on-topic".

 

EDIT: One more comment about the OP..... 5-7 seconds exactly is the oblivion default script run interval. Whatever is doing this, is a script that either does not specify questDelayTime, or has it set to 5-7secs.

[rynak777]

Regarding Gaebrial comment:

I'm currently trying to isolate, what seems to be the last remaining cause of my CTDs (much rarer by now). It happens when i have companions following, and when a lot of NPCs are in view. Maybe i'm hitting cell buffer limits, but then again i have streamline set to maximum, and it happens even in a zone, which i manually pcb'ed one minute ago. And it happens anywhere, when lots of NPCs are around... be it inn's, townstreets, or dungeons. I'm not sure if MCS is the culprit, given that others apparently get no such CTDs. My other candidate remaining (after disabling a lot of mods) are: tamagoClub, tamago-setbody revised and setbody reloaded (or it's ressourcefiles).