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Trying to diagnose 'random' CTD's (Load order and crash dump inc.)


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Hey friends, trying to figure out this issue I'm having. Been building out a SSE 'foundation' before adding stuff from here and I'm just about happy with everything. Playing around and testing stuff, and I've started (?) having CTDs when running around outside of cities being a murder hobo.

 

Don't know if any of this information is helpful in diagnosing the issue, but here's my load order:

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
Morningstar - Minimalistic Races of Skyrim.esl
Vigilant.esm
WM_WidgetMod.esl
FISS.esp
DynDOLOD.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Vivid WeathersSE.esp
Mortal Enemies.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
PeopleAreStrangers.esp
ViewableFactionRanks.esp
FNIS.esp
DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
ImmersiveInteractions.esp
SkyIdles.esp
Shadows.esp
RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
AI Overhaul.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
Velanimus Grass Overhaul.esp
AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp
MysticismMagic.esp
OBIS SE.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
UniqueBodiesbyRace.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
Joy of Perspective.esp
DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
Engarde.esp
Ultimate Dodge Mod.esp
Faster running walking and sneaking.esp
DSer360MovementBehavior.esp
AmuletsShowOnEverything-JOP.esp
YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp
WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
CBBE.esp
Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
Vigilant Voiced.esp
Qw_WACCF_AOS Patch.esp
Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
moonpath.esp
JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp
BeastHHBB.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Distinct People.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp
Qw_ConsistentOlderPeople_AIOverhaul Patch.esp
Evenstar - Minimalistic Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
First Person Camera Height Fix.esp
HeightSizeFix.esp
imp_helm_Immersive_Armors.esp
imp_helm_legend_WACCF_Patch.esp
JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp
OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
Realistic Haircolors.esp
Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer.esp
Smoking Torches And Candles.esp
SmoothCam.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
TorchesCastShadows.esp
Trua - Minimalistic Faiths of Skyrim.esp
VanillaArgoniansRedux.esp
Vivid_TS_Patch_Surreal.esp
Vivid_TS_AOS_Patch.esp
WACCF_ACE_JOP_Patch.esp
WondersofWeather.esp
Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp
Sustained Magic.esp
Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp
CGO Disable DodgeRoll patch.esp
SpellResearch.esp
Spell Research - Patch Compendium.esp
Vilja Re-Imagined SE.esp
Vilja's Family Re-Imagined.esp
Inigo.esp
018Auri.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp
FNISspells.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Lucien.esp
HothFollower.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
Seraphim - PrettyCourier.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp
WM_WidgetMod.esp
SkyHUD.esp
SIC - ICH Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
BlendedRoadsFixes.esp
moonpath - optional no spiders.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
DVLaSS Skyrim Underside.esp
Lucien-Moonpath-Patch.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim - Vivid Weathers Patch.esp
MLU.esp
Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
Growl-MortalEnemies Patch.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_CCOR_Patch.esp
Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp
TUMDR - zPatch.esp
MLU + CCORemastered - Patch.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp
CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
WEHealingPotions Patch - CACO.esp
CACO_Growl_Patch.esp
CACO_SkyrimImmersiveCreaturesSE_Patch.esp
CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp
Qw_CACO_AOS Patch.esp
Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp
Vokrii - Minimalistic Perks of Skyrim.esp
Mysticism - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp
Odin - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp
CCOR_Vokrii.esp
Vokrii - AOS Patch.esp
Apocalypse - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp
Sustained Magic - Vokrii.esp
Sacrilege - Minimalistic Vampires of Skyrim.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp
RDO Updated.esp
Qw_SofiaFollower_RDO Patch.esp
MCTPatch.esp
ELE_SSE.esp
Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp
ENB Light.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELE patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Qw_ELE_RW2 Patch.esp
Paper World Map.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
DynDOLOD.esp

I only recently created a bashed patch and sorted out sseedit's Quick Auto Clean in hopes of clearing this issue up, but it hasn't made a difference.

 

I went ahead and asked SKSE to give me a diagnostic report on crash and this is what came out:

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*                        Exception Analysis                                   *
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*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for SmoothCam.dll

KEY_VALUES_STRING: 1

    Key  : AV.Fault
    Value: Read

    Key  : Analysis.CPU.mSec
    Value: 6281

    Key  : Analysis.DebugAnalysisManager
    Value: Create

    Key  : Analysis.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 250816

    Key  : Analysis.Init.CPU.mSec
    Value: 343

    Key  : Analysis.Init.Elapsed.mSec
    Value: 132581

    Key  : Analysis.Memory.CommitPeak.Mb
    Value: 277

    Key  : Timeline.OS.Boot.DeltaSec
    Value: 597675

    Key  : Timeline.Process.Start.DeltaSec
    Value: 161

    Key  : WER.OS.Branch
    Value: vb_release

    Key  : WER.OS.Timestamp
    Value: 2019-12-06T14:06:00Z

    Key  : WER.OS.Version
    Value: 10.0.19041.1

    Key  : WER.Process.Version
    Value: 1.0.0.0


CONTEXT:  (.ecxr)
rax=3f0080813f008081 rbx=000000003cca2153 rcx=000002a55fe29440
rdx=000002a55fe2a200 rsi=000002a55fe29440 rdi=00007ff7c7da5bf0
rip=00007ff7c5c1bca3 rsp=000000b07635efb0 rbp=0000000000000000
 r8=000000000099d4ae  r9=0000000099d4ae98 r10=0000000000003cca
r11=000000b07635efe8 r12=0000000000000001 r13=000000b07635f2f0
r14=000002a55fe2a200 r15=0000000000000000
iopl=0         nv up ei pl zr na po nc
cs=0033  ss=002b  ds=002b  es=002b  fs=0053  gs=002b             efl=00010246
SkyrimSE+0x130bca3:
00007ff7`c5c1bca3 ff5018          call    qword ptr [rax+18h] ds:3f008081`3f008099=????????????????
Resetting default scope

EXCEPTION_RECORD:  (.exr -1)
ExceptionAddress: 00007ff7c5c1bca3 (SkyrimSE+0x000000000130bca3)
   ExceptionCode: c0000005 (Access violation)
  ExceptionFlags: 00000000
NumberParameters: 2
   Parameter[0]: 0000000000000000
   Parameter[1]: ffffffffffffffff
Attempt to read from address ffffffffffffffff

PROCESS_NAME:  SkyrimSE.exe

READ_ADDRESS:  ffffffffffffffff

ERROR_CODE: (NTSTATUS) 0xc0000005 - The instruction at 0x%p referenced memory at 0x%p. The memory could not be %s.

EXCEPTION_CODE_STR:  c0000005

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER1:  0000000000000000

EXCEPTION_PARAMETER2:  ffffffffffffffff

STACK_TEXT:  
000000b0`7635efb0 00007ff7`c5ba1d88     : 000002a5`600dfe80 000000b0`7635f139 00000000`ffffffff 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x130bca3
000000b0`7635f030 00007ff7`c5bd4d6c     : 00000000`00000000 000000b0`7635f2f0 00000000`00000001 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0x1291d88
000000b0`7635f060 00007ff7`c556bd71     : 000000b0`0000000d 000000b0`7635f2f0 000000b0`7635f139 000000b0`7635f139 : SkyrimSE+0x12c4d6c
000000b0`7635f0c0 00007ff7`c5569fbe     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 000000b0`ffffffff 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0xc5bd71
000000b0`7635f1a0 00007ff7`c56469d8     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000128 ffffffff`fffffffe 00000000`00000008 : SkyrimSE+0xc59fbe
000000b0`7635f1d0 00007ff7`c563e949     : 000002a4`5c6bf130 000000b0`7635f320 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0xd369d8
000000b0`7635f220 00007ff7`c4a135b1     : 000002a5`5fa28280 00000000`00000000 ffffffff`00000003 000002a5`606e0580 : SkyrimSE+0xd2e949
000000b0`7635f960 00007ff7`c4aca12f     : 00007ff7`c792a8c0 000000b0`7635fc00 00000000`a0000001 000000b0`7635fab0 : SkyrimSE+0x1035b1
000000b0`7635f9d0 00007ff7`c5640240     : 000000b0`7635fc00 00000000`00000000 00007ff7`c79254b0 000002a5`606b54e0 : SkyrimSE+0x1ba12f
000000b0`7635fa30 00007ff7`c5640d10     : 000002a5`606b54e0 000000b0`7635fab0 00007ff7`c79254b0 00007ff7`c563b32d : SkyrimSE+0xd30240
000000b0`7635fa90 00007ff7`c5553ebe     : 00000000`00000001 000000b0`7635fb88 00007ff7`c79254b0 00007ffe`85fb3911 : SkyrimSE+0xd30d10
000000b0`7635fae0 00007ff7`c563d69d     : 000002a4`6c1ac408 000000b0`7635fb88 000000b0`7635fc10 000002a4`6c59b7e0 : SkyrimSE+0xc43ebe
000000b0`7635fb60 00007ff7`c563a361     : 000002a4`6c1ac400 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000ea8 : SkyrimSE+0xd2d69d
000000b0`7635fbb0 00007ff7`c551d6bd     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00004e20 000002a3`fc2f5050 : SkyrimSE+0xd2a361
000000b0`7635fc50 00007ffe`c7d47034     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : SkyrimSE+0xc0d6bd
000000b0`7635fc90 00007ffe`c9d22651     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x14
000000b0`7635fcc0 00000000`00000000     : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x21


SYMBOL_NAME:  SkyrimSE+130bca3

MODULE_NAME: SkyrimSE

IMAGE_NAME:  SkyrimSE.exe

STACK_COMMAND:  ~95s ; .ecxr ; kb

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID:  INVALID_POINTER_READ_c0000005_SkyrimSE.exe!Unknown

OS_VERSION:  10.0.19041.1

BUILDLAB_STR:  vb_release

OSPLATFORM_TYPE:  x64

OSNAME:  Windows 10

IMAGE_VERSION:  1.0.0.0

FAILURE_ID_HASH:  {cc7cdad3-3dd6-62ea-cf5d-422fbde3752b}

Followup:     MachineOwner
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So far, the only consistent things I've noticed is that I've been in the main world. Mostly around Whiterun and Fort Greymoor, there's a fort with bandits to the north(?) that I can consistently get the crash at if I try to fight them.

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  • 2 weeks later...

By any chance do you have a utility running to cleanup your dead bodies?

 

I find adding a lot of NPCs that respawn and not cleaning up the corpses will lead to lag, drop in FPS and CTDs

 

DEAD NPC Body Cleaner Remover is fairly good.

 

The other thing is how much HDT-SMP stuff do you give your NPCs?

I give mine nothing, cheapskate that I am!

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