devious skyrim Unforgiving Devices

[SILLESEJOOR8]

Hi

whats the newest update to this mod or when could we end up seeing a new update and more abadon stuff that mode/ feature is very fun would be awesome if there was a way to have a indication as to the plugs strength and abit more added to the plaug after you fail to get it out in time

Edited May 24, 2024 by SILLESEJOOR8
Useless at typing get carried away and type to fast

[Lowkid2]

Hi there,

first of all i wanna say thank you for the great framework that spices up DD by a lot for me. I tried all features and have to say they all work nicely for me so great work.

 

The one feature that I currently mess with a lot is the device patching feature that assigns random abilities to devices when you equip them based on the settings previously made.

 

My question would now be: is there a way to more precisely manipulate patched devices outcomes? Is there a way to set ranges and make custom sets of effects for devices?

I am usually trying to find the most difficult (yet not impossible to escape from) sets and I i spend quite a bit of time "rerolling" (by reloading savegames) equipped devices until i get a very hard to escape one.

 

So if someone can tell me (who is not really an experienced modder) how I can manipulate outcomes to be more exactly what I want (by adjusting the rng in the device patcher) then I would be very thankful for that.

 

Also I would love a feature for patched devices to reroll their stats for as long as their health and condition are 100% to ditch mediocre roll on the devices more easily

Edited May 27, 2024 by Lowkid2

[Soulshifter355]

Is there an option to keep the goo dart traps in dungeons from equipping abadon devices?

[DayTri]

Does this mod respect zad_EffectEdgeOnly keyword? Or does the new orgasm mechanics let orgasms happen even with plugs that shouldn't do this in vanilla

[sinph]

UD can't be searched for some reason, but anyways getting a bunch of UD errors, so couple questions.

Have the patches from the AIO installed, do I still need to run xedit for the manual patching?

Does every mod need patches for UD, cause I'm seeing some errors for stuff outside of what the AIO patches patch.

If so can we turn off this whole everything needs patches and go back to the old way where UD was just it's own thing and everyone else used the old DD system?

Edited June 11, 2024 by sinph

[Zaflis]

On 6/3/2024 at 11:55 PM, Soulshifter355 said:

Is there an option to keep the goo dart traps in dungeons from equipping abadon devices?

 

If you open the UD's ESP in SSEEdit, open Magic Effect and delete that line about TrapPoison, it will use vanilla Skyrim poison traps instead.

 

 

If you instead want to use easier devices you would have to edit the script file instead and recompile it (setting up compiling takes much more effort).

[Zaflis]

2 hours ago, sinph said:

UD can't be searched for some reason, but anyways getting a bunch of UD errors, so couple questions.

Have the patches from the AIO installed, do I still need to run xedit for the manual patching?

Does every mod need patches for UD, cause I'm seeing some errors for stuff outside of what the AIO patches patch.

If so can we turn off this whole everything needs patches and go back to the old way where UD was just it's own thing and everyone else used the old DD system?

- LoversLab search never actually worked well, use Google.

- AIO of what?

- UD doesn't need manual patching unless you specifically want to add better UD compatibility to some DD mods. UD comes with many patch ESP's by itself to save you from having to do that yourself. Just install them as mods.

For example Devious Devices, Laura's shop, Cursed Loot are already patched, but you need to put them all in right order in the ESP plugins in your mod manager, order is very important.

[sinph]

38 minutes ago, Zaflis said:

- LoversLab search never actually worked well, use Google.

- AIO of what?

- UD doesn't need manual patching unless you specifically want to add better UD compatibility to some DD mods. UD comes with many patch ESP's by itself to save you from having to do that yourself. Just install them as mods.

For example Devious Devices, Laura's shop, Cursed Loot are already patched, but you need to put them all in right order in the ESP plugins in your mod manager, order is very important.

Had the package confused with another mod, but yea dl'd 2.1.1. Did the standard patches for dd, laura and cursed loot and everything's sorted properly. Pretty sure every time cursed loot tried to proc UD would error out typically proccing on items from one or two mods not on the patch list.  Which was why I was wondering if I needed additional manual patching.  Cursed loot works fine when it does find something but seemed like UD completely took over cursed loot's spawns instead of spawning UD compatible items when available and the base when not.

[Zaflis]

2 hours ago, sinph said:

Had the package confused with another mod, but yea dl'd 2.1.1. Did the standard patches for dd, laura and cursed loot and everything's sorted properly. Pretty sure every time cursed loot tried to proc UD would error out typically proccing on items from one or two mods not on the patch list.  Which was why I was wondering if I needed additional manual patching.  Cursed loot works fine when it does find something but seemed like UD completely took over cursed loot's spawns instead of spawning UD compatible items when available and the base when not.

It sounds like it works as it should be working. UD will indeed cause DCL to spawn UD items when they are available. Some of the DCL's items are not patched because they have unique scripts and are not simple to patch. Other than that UD does throw some errors but they seem harmless, it's an issue when they are actually "not working". You can reduce the amount of information UD throws to screen if there is too much.

 

There is a hidden version of UD in the works that might or might not fix some of those bugs, and no idea when it would be out. People are also waiting if DCL will update so they don't have to patch it again.

 

But you may have to show specific error lines and how they are actually not working for others to guide you, and about what those possibly non-patched other mods are. There was also maybe DD-NG was it? ...which might not be directly compatible but i don't know or use that either.

[sinph]

Thanks, devious strike and bound girls (not 100% sure which one that's from) were the main two sources of DCL UD script errors off the top of my head.  Also did have dd ng so will try without that.  If I disable the patch for DCL will it prevent UD integration with it?  Think I tried disabling the patch esp and that didn't seem to do anything.

 

So my default settings are ridiculously low so had to change a bunch of DCL settings to get reliable testing, but yea disabling the patches did nothing to solve this UD DCL integration, that seems to always occur as I don't see any options to disable it.  Re-enabled all the patches, and disabling DD NG seemed to have resolve the issues.  Turning DD NG back on immediately errors out when DCL procs.  Will test it a bit longer.

 

Still just a bit weird that UD integration's now forced into it, used to be UD items were just it's own thing and if you had the DD patches it would convert DD items into UD styled, now it seems like it tries to call a script to forcibly convert everything in DCL.

Edited June 12, 2024 by sinph

[blastoise23]

On 9/1/2022 at 10:57 AM, Aldid said:

Attempts to open the struggle menu with these items equipped just gives the log message "Can't set lastOpenedDevice".

 

 

Hi, I have a similar issue to Aldid: 'Can't set lastOpenedDevice'.  I am not using the mod that caused his issue though, so presumably the problem is elsewhere.

 

LOOT shows no relevant issues, mod organizer shows UD conflicting with zero other mods.  Not sure where to go from here.

 

Mod list:

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
_ResourcePack.esl
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
3DNPC.esp
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
Heels Sound.esm
iWant Widgets.esl
Acheron.esm
ITortureFramework.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
3BBB.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
Brows.esp
CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Botox SE.esp
SLSO.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
FadeTattoos.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
SexLab Confabulation.esp
Public Whore.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
Jampion NPCs.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
UnforgivingDevices.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
Schlongs of SkyrimSE - Light.esp
3DNPC0.esp
3DNPC1.esp
Devious Adventures.esp
SLSFFameComments.esp
SLUTS.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
UnforgivingDevices - DD Patch.esp
Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
Devious Lore.esp
DD_Animation_Overhaul_by_Taki17.esp
qayl.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
DeviouslyAccessible.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
SexistGuards.esp
Sexist Guards_Voice.esp
Sexist Guards_Voice0.esp
Sexist Guards_Voice00.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
Cuyima 3DNPC - Redone.esp
KaliliesNPCs.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
Missives.esp
DeviousCarriages.esp
SL Dirty Deeds Missives.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLSO_F_VP_Maria.esp
dD Enchanted Chests.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
sl_triggers.esp
SLACS.esp
DevFollowersVoiceMore.esp
DeviousFollowers - Unofficially Patched.esp
DeviousFollowers - Cutting Room Floor - Patch.esp
DF SLACS Patch.esp
Devious Lore - KS Hair Patch.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
TheTrappingsOfFate.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Licenses.esp
DeviousMimicClothes.esp
Practical Defeat.esp
Simple Events - Addon.esp
Creature Comforts - Addon.esp
PD_Voicepack_0.3.1.esp
PWComments.esp
Telekinesis.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
MoreDeviousStarts.esp
LiveADeviantLife.esp
EnforcerOutfitsZAP.esp
SlaverunEnforcerStandsalone.esp
SRREnforcerEnhanced.esp

 

[Zaflis]

19 hours ago, sinph said:

Thanks, devious strike and bound girls (not 100% sure which one that's from) were the main two sources of DCL UD script errors off the top of my head.  Also did have dd ng so will try without that.  If I disable the patch for DCL will it prevent UD integration with it?  Think I tried disabling the patch esp and that didn't seem to do anything.

 

So my default settings are ridiculously low so had to change a bunch of DCL settings to get reliable testing, but yea disabling the patches did nothing to solve this UD DCL integration, that seems to always occur as I don't see any options to disable it.  Re-enabled all the patches, and disabling DD NG seemed to have resolve the issues.  Turning DD NG back on immediately errors out when DCL procs.  Will test it a bit longer.

 

Still just a bit weird that UD integration's now forced into it, used to be UD items were just it's own thing and if you had the DD patches it would convert DD items into UD styled, now it seems like it tries to call a script to forcibly convert everything in DCL.

Devious Strike is a broken mess, i couldn't get it working reliably either. Bound girls will show errors even without UD, it doesn't matter how they work because devices to them are mainly just "armors" without need for any function, although they usually look functioning. DD can't apply effects to items that are in cells that get unloaded for example and then throw those errors.

 

Load order is roughly:

- DD

- Content mods (DCL and others)

- Content mod patches

- UD

- UD - DD patch

- UD - Other patches

 

DCL uses most devices from the DD itself, so if you don't use the "UD - DD patch" nor DCL patch then you won't see them in traps either.

[kurotatsu]

That's not entirely correct.

UD patches add UD functionality to devices from mods they patch.

I.e. if some mod uses only standard DD framework devices - after adding UD DD patch to load order all devices added by that mod would be handled by UD.

DCL uses both standard framework devices and it's own custom ones, with custom scripts. This is why even when UD DCL patch used not all DCL-added devices are handled by UD.

However them being not handled merely means they behave like UD is not present, just that. They will work as they should.

[sinph]

Pretty sure DD NG was the source of my scripting issues from the burst testing that I did, procced DCL multiple times no errors, turned DD NG on and instantly errored on the first proc.

 

Disabling the patches with DD NG still had UD errors when DCL procced, though this was the previous save so not sure if a new game is required for the effect to take into place.

 

Devious strike for the most part's always worked fine for me, though spawn rates really need to be dropped to like 1% otherwise you seem them everywhere.  As for bound girls think they're part of DCL, never really understood the point of them.

 

Will play some more eventually so if it still pops up will take a look, but for now seems like it was all DD NG.

Edited June 13, 2024 by sinph

[jouda1212]

On 5/1/2024 at 7:58 AM, ItsYaBoi1738 said:

hi ive realised that my Unforgiving Devices menu is stuck updating and turns out it has been for all my recent saves, is there any fix for this?

Found, i was now too locked in "updating"

 

1.Open console (press `)

2.Verify variables (sqv UD_Main)

3. setpqv UD_Main _Updating_var False

4. setpqv UD_Main _Disabled_var False

5.quick save

6.load game

[sinph]

Side note, about a year ago when I redid the list for Skyrim again armbinders essentially broke with UD installed, hands would be out, attack animation would just be punches, though struggle animations worked.  Tried a few additional animation fixes at the time didn't seem to work.  If anyone's runned into something similar off the top of their head.

 

Fast forward to now, still same issue though DD NG seems to resolved it. But pretty sure DD NG is causing these "getInventoryScript(whaterver item)) - ID have no UD_CustomDevice_equipSCript script!" errors though. 

[Inquizit0r]

On 12/23/2023 at 8:23 AM, fagmalgma said:

can someone help me? That bug blocks any  attempt to escape devices saying " You are already doing something" except im not, updating  and trying " general fix" option in debug menu didnt help

It might be a bit late reply to this, as I have encountered the same issue and found a solution (at least for now).

 

From my personal observation of using these two mods together (Unforgiving Devices and Beyond Reach), there indeed happens a problem that player is completely unable to perform any action, as it constantly says that "<playername> is already doing something" when accessing any UD items.

When the bug starts to happen: After player meets the requirement to start the Beyond Reach questline (2 npcs meets player in one of the cities and starts the main quest). After this happened, player becomes completely unable to do anything regarding to UD (including accessing restraints or even animations wont trigger).
This issue persists until player first enters the world of "Reach". (Talk to the NPC in Markarth and agree to travel to Reach), after this is over and the cutscene plays, everything from UD goes back to normal.
I have just briefly found out about this, there might be more issues, if there are any, I will make sure to report them here.

 

Until then, author of UD, you should probably mention the possible "incompatibility" with Beyond Reach.

[nopse0]

Setting the key durability in the MCM doesn't seem to work. I set key durability to 20, but restraints and chastity keys still only have 5 charges. Or is this somehow related to the DD setting "consume keys" ? Will try to disable that, too. Is there a global variable for this ?

 

Edit: Yes, this seems to have been it. After unsetting DD "consume keys", UD displayed [19 charges] after having used it one time. Though this was only for a key I conjured up with the console, not sure if this is the same for keys you get from NPC's.

 

Edited June 14, 2024 by nopse0

[nopse0]

Next problem: "Struggle uselessly" doesn't terminate, PC struggles forever. Is there a way to stop this, I tried the MCM functions, but nothing worked

[kurotatsu]

8 hours ago, nopse0 said:

Next problem: "Struggle uselessly" doesn't terminate, PC struggles forever. Is there a way to stop this, I tried the MCM functions, but nothing worked

 

Press E to stop any minigame.

[Captainzcat]

Is there a patch for the custom devices added by Devious Devices Equip, or a quick way to remove the devices added by Devious Devices Equipped?

I already think they're incredibly ugly, them not working at all with UD is just adding to my issues with them.

[Zaflis]

9 hours ago, Captainzcat said:

Is there a patch for the custom devices added by Devious Devices Equip, or a quick way to remove the devices added by Devious Devices Equipped?

I already think they're incredibly ugly, them not working at all with UD is just adding to my issues with them.

I thought they work just fine, but make sure UD and its patches are loaded after DDE. Its gear is mostly just recolors from DD's ones, so it inherits the UD patches too?

[Captainzcat]

I have UD loaded after DDe.

 

7 hours ago, Zaflis said:

Its gear is mostly just recolors from DD's ones, so it inherits the UD patches too?

You'd think, but no. At least, not for most of the restraints; not the red hex restrictive gloves, for example. Doesn't show up in the UD devices list, and activating one of the DDe restraints from the inventory just uses the stock DD escape menu.

[kurotatsu]

Custom DDE restraints use own custom scripts instead of DD ones, thus no easy way to patch them.

[kamijoker]

Not sure why, but every thing from dd expansion return timeout.

Things from DD asset have no effect. Things from integration works fine.