Fusion Girl bodyslide confusion

[astor]

I need some guidance on how to fix this issue:

 

 

I downloaded the FG files and this looks nothing like the screen shots on the mod page.  I see this with nearly all of my armors and i'm clueless on what to do about it.

[Guest]

Could be a preset issue or wrong version of base fusion girl. You need proper version of FG --> original outfit --> matching FG version conversion of outfit.

[PapaGeorge]

55 minutes ago, astor said:

и не знаю, что с этим делать.

An updated FG body requires an updated skeleton for it.  Clothing also needs to be adapted to the renewed body.

[astor]

i get this with all fg 1.75+ outfits i download.  I posted that pic because the words on the shirt make the issue easier to see.  The mod pages show the outfits looking good, but when i run it through bodyslide, that's the result i get.

 

I'm using the updated zex skeleton with nothing overriding it.

[kharneth1]

This is usually effect of uniboob not done properly, simple load and conform the uniboob reference isn't enough.  But if you see it in all armors i doubt every conversion is done that bad.

 

Have you tried a different preset and it persist?

[astor]

Uniboob... i see one in the outfit list, but not the body preset list.  I tried making my own, but that... didn't go well.   Right now, my "work around" was to take my preset and spread the breasts apart.  it works to straighten out the outfits, but the downside is losing the bra-like appearance of the clothes.

[kharneth1]

you don't have to do uniboob, it's done with the armor or not, what you see in the list is the reference for use in outfit studio, not anything to be use either in game or to build in bs. But if using breast widht solved it, its definitively uniboob but seeing at your preset i doubt you make it work.

 

Looking at your screenshoot looks like you have big amounts either of boobs yuge or seven base body sliders (or both) uniboob don't work well with none of them, specially seven base (that basically is a lazy slider that build the body at once instead of build it normally)

 

 

[astor]

Whenever i try to change the shape in OS, it tells me that i can't save after changing the sliders or some such.  The only thing i can do is increase, decrease or smooth the mesh.  Anything else and can't save it.  I know it's me not knowing what the hell i'm doing with the program and not OS, but the result is the same.

[kharneth1]

you need to select the sliders one by one by the pencil icon in it. make changes with it at 100, undiff/smooth/increase..., not touching values

 

But for the two sliders I mentioned the result is never be really good. What values you have for it?

[astor]

Here's my current bodyslide settings for outfits.  I'm using the body from this page:  

I don't think it matters, but thought it bears mentioning. 

 

Astor Fusion Girl Clothing IV.xml

[kharneth1]

definitively seens like a problem with the bodyslides you are using are not well done.

 

This is how the same t-shirt look for me with your preset (i have some old files for this outfit made by me)

[astor]

that looks good, however, i originally had the cleavage slider up to keep the breasts together rather than the bra-less look.

[kharneth1]

your preset is very modest in fact, the firts screenshoot so close maek me think otherwise. It should have room to take cleavage and even distance (wich causes more shriek) to 100 without shrienking if the uniboob is done properly.

 

Your preset don't have much of the really conflicting sliders like seven base (0%) or boobs yuge (only 13%). It shouldn't have problems, the problem is in the conversion

 

This is how it looks with both cleavage and distance at 100%:

 

 

 

 

[astor]

i got the conversion for that mod off of "Tullius Channel" website.  

 

This mod does the very same thing as the screenshot in the op.  https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/38004 .  It's something about the way i try to make my outfits look like the woman is wearing support.

[kharneth1]

8 hours ago, astor said:

  It's something about the way i try to make my outfits look like the woman is wearing support.

 

Nope, there isn't anything directly wrong with your way. While is true that your preset can be optimized to create a push up effect you are looking for with less conflicting sliders. I will load it in OS (where you have better separation for sliders, BS show combined effects), remove "boobs yuge" enterely, set "breast height 2" to 20-30, use "boobs big" and "boobs mellons" combinations until reach the desire size and shape, and them play with combiantions of "Boobs cleavage/together/push up" snd "nipples distance" until you have the desire push up effect.

 

You are in fat mistaken two different issues:

 

-In your OP screenshot, the conversion it not finish. The autor have apply a uniboob reference but have no tweak the sliders to support it. Any preset that have any kind that close up breast will look similar. This effect is basically the mesh collapsing into itself.

 

-In the mod you linked, judging by the screenshoots, there isn't any issues. It simple not done to looks the way you want to look. The clothes fit like they are tigh to the skin, like a bodysuit. There isn't mesh collapsing here, the mesh is simple hide between the breast. You can like the effect or not (I also would prefer this tops with an uniboob effect, but we are talking about taste here, not real issue)

 

Again there isn't any reason the tops looks this way, if you look for a uniboob done correctly. I don't have the mod you linked but I use original one from jmenaru that are the same meshes. As you can see they can support uniboob fine, with your preset or even with more cleavage ones:

 

 

[astor]

Here's what my original outfit slider was set to and where i'd really like to be, but you can see how the outfit is crushed in the center.  So for me to eliminate that, i have to forgo the desired effect.  Again with this preset, nearly all the outfits have this issue, it's just really noticeable on clothes with logos, words, etc.

 

EDIT:  I dont' know why the body is so dark in BS.  It shows up fine in game.

[kharneth1]

Ok, the issue is clear now, you should have started with that XD and we can skip the rest of the trhead ???

 

You shouldn't take one slider over 100 and hope for the best, this is why your clothes are collapsed, no autor tweaks slider over 100, because this will basically make the process of creating bodyslide infinite XD. If you want to rise it over 100 you would need to fit all your clothes yourself in outfit studio.

 

Instead of that, that would be a hell of work, use combinations of sliders to reach the desire effect but never be lazy and simple take one over 100, like i post before:

49 minutes ago, kharneth1 said:

 

 I will load it in OS (where you have better separation for sliders, BS show combined effects), remove "boobs yuge" enterely, set "breast height 2" to 20-30, use "boobs big" and "boobs mellons" combinations until reach the desire size and shape, and them play with combiantions of "Boobs cleavage/together/push up" snd "nipples distance" until you have the desire push up effect.

 

 

 

Alternatively, you can start wit a preset with push up effect as a base (like this one or one of my presets) and then tweaks sliders to adapt it to your liking.

[astor]

Oh, snap!  You're THAT Kharneth.  Thank you so much for the FG conversions. 

 

I'm currently looking at your Sara_Outfit Preset with various outfits and yeah, the mods i showed above have the same issues with your preset as mine.

[kharneth1]

6 hours ago, astor said:

Oh, snap!  You're THAT Kharneth.  Thank you so much for the FG conversions. 

 

I'm currently looking at your Sara_Outfit Preset with various outfits and yeah, the mods i showed above have the same issues with your preset as mine.

 

Curious, I test my preset againts everything i have installed and works fine (there isn't any collapse effect). I mostly have my conversions but also things from Fishman1121 and TBOS (and probably some others i forgot) and all works fine.

 

It's weird all you test have issues, i'm not sure it can be the conversion or some other thing

[astor]

47 minutes ago, kharneth1 said:

 

Curious, I test my preset againts everything i have installed and works fine (there isn't any collapse effect). I mostly have my conversions but also things from Fishman1121 and TBOS (and probably some others i forgot) and all works fine.

 

It's weird all you test have issues, i'm not sure it can be the conversion or some other thing

i probably need to be more selective in my mod choices.  After being a CBBE user for years, i'm moving over FG -which i like so much better (nothing against CBBE, it's an excellent body), and i'm just grabbing everything that says 1.75+ on it, running it through BS and loading the game.