Pornhub removing all non-verified user content

[solo.kirmish]

Hello, this is a new account for me since my older one (s.kirmish) has apparently been irreparably hacked and pirated away.

You might have heard of the grand exodus of video content on PH, in which they now don't allow any private user to post any kind of video anymore, effectively ending the 'Porn-Version of Youtube' status on their side. This of course slashed the available amount of content significantly, with the number being ambiguously reported to be a cut from over 13m videos to either 7.something million or less than 5m. The purge is still ongoing it seems, as there are many unverified videos still in existence (in a probe I found many of the CGI sort which might be lower on the kill-list, but some I remembered are also already gone).

The reason for this move was desperation on the PH side. You might also have heard that the always canceling and purging left-extremist-cudgel-"New York Times" has targeted PH (rightfully this time perhaps) in uncovering many illegal content in the depths of their video archive, including trafficking victims, real forced pornography, and perhaps even child porn.(though I used to think the later was pretty strictly scanned already) Though that is a legitimate scandal on its own, in its wake it scratched an I think way bigger scandal which has been ongoing for years, which is Visa and Mastercard using their leverage to make anyone comply.

The reason for PH's enormously drastic and sure to be backlashing move was the financial hostage situation, that Mastercard and Visa just from one day to the other refused payment processing on their site, citing the New York Times' findings. Of course this can be seen on two sides. For one they do have a standing policy that actually forbids them to be involved in exploitative content, which is fine. On the other hand they have way too much leeway in applying this to their own digression I think. (Is one bad video enough to cut everything? Or is there a quota? Why no arbitration and instead instant purge despite the clearly ensuing damages? Why can they just take such an article as "investigation", instead of having an actual one and then striking deals/ making clear demands for change?)

Well, Visa and Mastercard have been involved in leftist witch hunts too often for me to trust them with handling this sensibly. You might know they really kicked off this whole "un-person" business as a term, where since some time not only do "controversial"(=left-hated and hunted) personalities just get cancelled from all social media, but now these credit card companies even act as prolonged arm of the purge to directly drill into people's ability to live if they don't comply with the political mantra.

It is like a more or less self-emerging chinese social credit score system, where you just get banned from using certain services like indeed banking, but also public transportation, conversion with many companies etc. if you fall out of line with the elite's (actually)perverted ideals of order.

 

Again, the complaints against PH are real in this case, and I am not arguing for this to just be ignored. The handling was horrendous however, leaving PH and users with way too dire consequences. And then beyond that it is just another reminder that some very central oligopolist corporations have positioned themselves to be able to internationally enforce whatever political push they want to allow, citing some mere "we have the freedom to refuse service" clause, despite their essentiality to western life. Agendas Beyond Borders.

 

 

I made some post about government pornography bans a while back, and wanted to speculate on reasons for it. It seemed that there is a clear correlation between restriction of access to pornography and the leaning of the state in question on the liberal-authoritarian scale, where every inch towards authoritarianism seems to result in greater restrictions and eventually bans on porn.
What I want to say is, can we take this move (lefty witch hunt NYT blowing the horn and calling on Visa+Mastercard to act) to be another proof that the former liberal ideal left (which I was/am a part of) has snapped and completely inverted to authoritarianism? After all, only authoritarians seem to go after porn.

You can call it globalist authoritarian corporatism I guess, but those are details.

 

Of course you can and should tackle these problems in porn, but moving to outright ban the financial vein without discussion on potential measures or really any time to react just reeks of another authoritative ban attempt. (whether a complete or a partial "just private videos" victory was the goal - not sure. We don't even know if PHs drastic reaction will actually reinstate their Visa+Mastercard standing, though I personally think the odds are good.)

[justhere2look]

those credit cards are pushing an agenda again because pornhub refused to get political. 

 

The thing these credit card companies are trying to deal with criminal matters, matters that need to be handled by police. Pornhub should go the police and get a warrant forcing these credit card companies to hand over any information they collected. Cause honestly if they find anything criminal and then say "ok were not going to process anymore transactions for pornhub, bye bye" those crimes won't be reported those users won't be arrested and those video won't be taken down. 

 

The worst outcome for these companies is if the content that claim is criminal, but has already been dealt with by pornhub staff and police. the credit card companies could face heavy fines and could be sued by pornhub for the needless removal of millions of videos. 

 

that is my personal opinion 

[La Nitro]

Instead of promoting how they're the world's biggest supply of incest scenes, they should've been cracking down on all the rape and child porn being uploaded. I expect Pornhub to either:

 

a. Convert to using Crypto-Currency.

 

b. Move all of the remaining content to ModelHub, since Visa/MasterCard is still accepted there.

 

c. Shutdown/Rebrand Pornhub and use one of their other porn sites that they own such as Redtube as a sacrificial lamb.

[solo.kirmish]

The move to crypto seems all the more necessary everywhere now it seems. I was sceptical but intrigued years back when it all started, but it is proven again and again that any kind of centralized control leads to autocratic oppression one way or the other (at least over time). This central banking has to go. Too much power, and right at the pulse of society: the money flow.

 

There are also models to get social media decentralized btw. . Essentially you wouldn't have mega-sites that host all the content anymore, but instead just like those torrent-listers, they would just hold links/visible modules that reference something akin of private webpages. Those would be standard module templates, so you don't need any technical knowledge, but the responsibility for what you put there would be on you. This way the content-referencer site has literally no control over the actual material, well, other than blocking it outright or doing that fake-check nonsense editorial again, but maybe the later can finally be tackled legally, because it makes them a publisher, stripping their legal protections.

[nonusnomeni]

not first time for visa and mastercard to enforce they political stand

unlawfully

 

https://www.cnet.com/news/mastercard-pulls-plug-on-wikileaks-payments/

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2012/07/12/wikileaks-scores-significant-victory-vs-visamastercard

 

Spoiler

 

 

[solo.kirmish]

Oho, I wasn't even aware of that, even though I followed all of the Wikileaks story until today, since an Assange pardon seems currently likely.

[Tali Redmint]

PH removed all my videos, pics and covers. My account was about skyrim sexlab animations, felt like an overkill.

PH is dead to me. Now I'm moving to Xvideos.

[solo.kirmish]

I was actually on Xvideos first, and never quite settled for PH, though there were some rare videos I could only find there.

 

PH was always in my disfavor for having this extremely bad search engine. Multi-tag was impossible, and using more than one word search (e.g. 'asian housewife') would mostly show videos that only had either reference (like only 'housewife'), or even none. Hell, even single word search was often totally unrelated, because their smart algorithm determined some related terms to your word that it automatically also searches by, which however often aren't related at all. (e.g. search for 'asian' should not include near-eastern asian colloquially, but did, nor should it demand asian furniture style in the background of white couple sex)

All porn sites do this to varying degrees, but PH was most responsible because of the sheer size of their content, which necessitates a good guiding light for navigation. Yet I remember that in the past I sometimes couldn't even find videos when I 100% knew what I was looking for, short for the actual title. Haven't had frustrating issues like these anywhere else.

Maybe one day we will get a site with a proper search and index function. PH's likely demise or backstep into mere shadow-relevance will at least reheat competition, so some innovation might happen when someone tries to claim the empty throne.

[Jekson383]

I don't like pornhub. These videos seem to me too pretentious. I'm a fan of the big tits cam sex videos . I love the variety of babes on this site.

[Guest]

On 12/19/2020 at 3:02 PM, Tali Redmint said:

PH removed all my videos, pics and covers. My account was about skyrim sexlab animations, felt like an overkill.

PH is dead to me. Now I'm moving to Xvideos.

they look good - link please