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RedMonika

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If I want a weapon to get more powerful in a certain enchantment per points in a perk...

 

Let's say I have a bow and want to have it cause damage to stamina but I want that to get stronger to the points put into overdraw

 

In the conditions would be like:

 

hasperk overdraw 1 >= <= overdraw 2 value 1

hasperk overdraw 2 >= <= overdraw 3 value 1

 

etc?

Posted

You can just add different MGEFs with different magnitudes in a single SPEL pointed by the ENCH record, then add a condition for each MGEF within the SPEL record.

This allows you to skip having to create multiple SPEL records.

<MGEF 3>
HasPerk Perk3

<MGEF 2>
not HasPerk Perk3 and
HasPerk Perk2

<MGEF 1>
not HasPerk Perk2 and
HasPerk Perk1
  
<MGEF Base>
not HasPerk Perk1

This is assuming you need the previous perk to have the next, otherwise you need to add the "not HasPerk" condition for all perks.

Posted
1 hour ago, Hawk9969 said:

You can just add different MGEFs with different magnitudes in a single SPEL pointed by the ENCH record, then add a condition for each MGEF within the SPEL record.

This allows you to skip having to create multiple SPEL records.


<MGEF 3>
HasPerk Perk3

<MGEF 2>
not HasPerk Perk3 and
HasPerk Perk2

<MGEF 1>
not HasPerk Perk2 and
HasPerk Perk1
  
<MGEF Base>
not HasPerk Perk1

This is assuming you need the previous perk to have the next, otherwise you need to add the "not HasPerk" condition for all perks.

 

Thanks!

 

Ok.. I think I see what you're saying. I'm totally dumb to what I'm doing just playing and around and learning but if I understand you're adding to the conditions as "or?" Then would the value be the additional damage?

Posted
20 minutes ago, RedMonika said:

 

Thanks!

 

Ok.. I think I see what you're saying. I'm totally dumb to what I'm doing just playing and around and learning but if I understand you're adding to the conditions as "or?" Then would the value be the additional damage?

No, you've to add a new effect for each different magnitude within the SPEL record. If you want it to have a different magnitude for 3 perks and 1 base (no perks), you would need 4 effects within your spell.

The conditions should be AND and mutually exclusive for each effect as to not apply more than one effect.

Posted
16 hours ago, Hawk9969 said:

No, you've to add a new effect for each different magnitude within the SPEL record. If you want it to have a different magnitude for 3 perks and 1 base (no perks), you would need 4 effects within your spell.

The conditions should be AND and mutually exclusive for each effect as to not apply more than one effect.

okay, that's what I thought if I understand what you're saying

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, RedMonika said:

okay, that's what I thought if I understand what you're saying

I don't use CK myself, but it looks right to me.

You could move the condition for the higher perk to the top so it's more efficient for the game to process (the higher perk condition is always going to fail if you've it, but the lower perk one is always going to succeeded if you do have the higher one, forcing the game to evaluate the second condition).

You could also change comparison to == 1 and == 0, since HasPerk is a boolean function.

 

If you want me to confirm 100%, you could open your esp within xEdit, and screenshot me the ENCH record.

Posted
14 hours ago, Hawk9969 said:

I don't use CK myself, but it looks right to me.

You could move the condition for the higher perk to the top so it's more efficient for the game to process (the higher perk condition is always going to fail if you've it, but the lower perk one is always going to succeeded if you do have the higher one, forcing the game to evaluate the second condition).

You could also change comparison to == 1 and == 0, since HasPerk is a boolean function.

 

If you want me to confirm 100%, you could open your esp within xEdit, and screenshot me the ENCH record.

You're too cool.. Thank you!

 

Is this what you're referring to?

 

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Posted
11 hours ago, RedMonika said:

Is this what you're referring to?

Other than what I've already mentioned previously, some entries are OR rather than AND and you need to run the conditions on "Target" rather than "Subject". Subject is going to be the weapon itself.

Posted
21 hours ago, Hawk9969 said:

Other than what I've already mentioned previously, some entries are OR rather than AND and you need to run the conditions on "Target" rather than "Subject". Subject is going to be the weapon itself.

oh... okay... got ya... Thanks for the help. that makes sense

 

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