Remove High heel effect

[Aki K]

I want to remove the high heel effect from an armor (specifically the restrictive boots in devious device expansion).  But HDT heels doesn't seem to be the source of the height change, and the HDT heels MCM doesn't seem to let me adjust custom heights downward, only higher (and even then its adjustments aren't even working for mods that use HDT heels but whatever that's not the issue and I can handle that one via TesEdit.)

 

I want to know how to make a high heel effect go away from an armor.  I don't care if this means the boots dip a bit below the ground.  I have my reasons for doing this.  Anyway, how do I remove the height change effect on high heels?

[Andy14]

The high heel height is saved in the Nif as NiStringExtraData.
Open the nif of the boots with nifskope. If you use BodySlide you will find the Nif in Bodyslide/ShapeData/ Project_name.
In Nifskope expand the NiStriShape (s) and find the NiStringExtraData with the name SDTA.

With CTRL + Delete or right click -> Remove Branch you can delete the NiStringExtraData.
Then save and build the boots with BodySlide

[Aki K]

11 hours ago, Andy14 said:

The high heel height is saved in the Nif as NiStringExtraData.
Open the nif of the boots with nifskope. If you use BodySlide you will find the Nif in Bodyslide/ShapeData/ Project_name.
In Nifskope expand the NiStriShape (s) and find the NiStringExtraData with the name SDTA.

With CTRL + Delete or right click -> Remove Branch you can delete the NiStringExtraData.
Then save and build the boots with BodySlide

Awesome!  I appreciate it.  I was kind of sick of the boots causing animations to be out of sync but I loved the look of them otherwise.

[Andy14]

46 minutes ago, Aki K said:

Awesome!  I appreciate it.  I was kind of sick of the boots causing animations to be out of sync but I loved the look of them otherwise.

Hmh?

If "animations" refer to Sexlab animations: There is a setting in Sexlab-MCM that neutralizes the high heel height during the animation. It's in Sexlab MCM's Animation Settings - bottom right.

 

PS: Works for HDT Highheel + NiOverride

[Aki K]

23 hours ago, Andy14 said:

Hmh?

If "animations" refer to Sexlab animations: There is a setting in Sexlab-MCM that neutralizes the high heel height during the animation. It's in Sexlab MCM's Animation Settings - bottom right.

 

PS: Works for HDT Highheel + NiOverride

Yes but it is extremely glitchy.  If you have a lot of spells from mods, it can delay animations starting by several minutes or even break through the game.  The game checks for high heels as a form of spell that's applied, so it will check every spell in the game before starting an animation (while heels are equipped).  So it's easier for someone with a lot of spell mods to just remove the heel effect on the ones I want to use with animations.

[Mysticgirl]

Would there be a mod that could remove the dependency of the "High heels" mod.
Every time my characters wear high heels, they look like giraffes next to their companions.
I saw that some mods did it on SSE but nothing on Skyrim Oldrim.

Thanks in advance for your answers.

[Grey Cloud]

7 minutes ago, Mysticgirl said:

Would there be a mod that could remove the dependency of the "High heels" mod.

Is this what you're looking for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz1DTLs6FKA

 

[Tlam99]

On 7/29/2020 at 6:54 AM, Andy14 said:

NiStringExtraData with the name SDTA.

If I insert this string and set float to 0, would racemenu see those boots as heels ?

I thought, there is a minimum high defined in racemenu, where boots become heels.

But setting eg float 1 could forward boots to heels, lift them over the lower limit, if understand right.

[Tlam99]

On 7/30/2020 at 6:15 PM, Aki K said:

it will check every spell in the game

......was searching why all spells are checked.

Now I know the reason. Ty

[Mysticgirl]

No this is not what I am looking for.
When I go into the mod, the line he advises to remove in the video is already removed.
In fact, I want my character not to look taller when she wears heels, or not as tall.

[Tlam99]

You mean shrinking when wearing heels ?

Like a condition, if wearing heels setheight .95.

 

[SilentOption]

On 7/29/2020 at 12:54 AM, Andy14 said:

The high heel height is saved in the Nif as NiStringExtraData.
Open the nif of the boots with nifskope. If you use BodySlide you will find the Nif in Bodyslide/ShapeData/ Project_name.
In Nifskope expand the NiStriShape (s) and find the NiStringExtraData with the name SDTA.

With CTRL + Delete or right click -> Remove Branch you can delete the NiStringExtraData.
Then save and build the boots with BodySlide

I am having the same issues but I don't see NiStrShape(S) and NiStringExtraData I'm trying to get rid of High Heel Effect

Edited January 24, 2024 by SilentOption

[HereBeTentacles]

1 hour ago, SilentOption said:

I am having the same issues but I don't see NiStrShape(S) and NiStringExtraData I'm trying to get rid of High Heel Effect

 

Maybe a dumb question but are you sure those have a heel? They don't look like they do based on that screenshot.

[SilentOption]

47 minutes ago, HereBeTentacles said:

 

Maybe a dumb question but are you sure those have a heel? They don't look like they do based on that screenshot.

I asked myself that initially but the high heel event thing was on the Temptress Boots Alt Rd for some strange reason which has me scratching my head

Edited January 24, 2024 by SilentOption

[Andy14]

5 hours ago, SilentOption said:

I am having the same issues but I don't see NiStrShape(S) and NiStringExtraData I'm trying to get rid of High Heel Effect

 

First: These are not high heels. You can see that the soles of the shoes are on the grid.

 

Second: Your Nif has problems because the second NiTriShape has the name of a bone (Pelvis). You should definitely rename this, otherwise there will be problems.

You can rename it in NifSkope, but if it is created with Body Slide then rename it in Outfit Studio.