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Racemenu overlay layering problem


joshiejoe

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ive been trying to use various body overlays via racemenu, they all show up but just stop applying around the chest area. I couldn't find anything similar to this on the forums.

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12 hours ago, joshiejoe said:

im using Sos body. this also happens with females, for which i have cbbe.  and armor or no armor its the same issue

That is strange, I've seen people having issues of them never appearing in the first place but only partial visibility is a new one.

 

There are a couple of cases in where the overlays fail to render, mainly underwater when viewing from above waterline and through transparent armor with certain angles which is why I was suspecting that the armor you have there has an invisible (""transparent"") mesh over upper body. Body overlays also disappear with certain armors, personally not sure about the technicalities of that since I never really looked into it.

 

The way RM overlays work in technical level is that, in laymans terms, every overlay is an invisible copy of player character with only the overlay textures visible and placed on top of your character. That makes me suspect that the "invisible copy" has wrong weight or bodytype in this case, though in all honestly I don't know if that is even possible.

 

Have you tried applying the overlays in new save? Using any "unique player" mods?

 

Quick search around tells me that this is the first issue of this kind to be reported either so if it isn't related to any of the above, I have no clue.

 

 

E:

Just to try something, try getting rid of this and see if it helps:

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E7  HornyWereHermPlayer.esp

 

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ok so i tried removing that mod, it changed nothing. i must be dumb because i know noticed that the overlays didn't show up as shown in my picture until a "body" armor was equipped but some of the overlay still did appear without the armor on. 

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1 hour ago, joshiejoe said:

i must be dumb because i know noticed that the overlays didn't show up as shown in my picture until a "body" armor was equipped but some of the overlay still did appear without the armor on.

I'm not exactly sure what you are saying here. So the overlays appear as they should when naked? Or cut off in different spot?

 

If that armor is from Modular Clothing System, it just might be incompatible with RaceMenu because as said in the modpage:

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You have to replace your bodies with those from mod. It didn't change anything and didn't affect visual aspects, all sliders and presets are untouched. It's necessary to get rid of clipping bugs.

I haven't used that mod so I don't know what's different from those supplied bodies but they might not support overlays if they have extra "layers" like thicker chest as armoraddons which gets removed when equipping chest armor to reduce clipping. Those armoraddons would not get overlays at all since only parts RaceMenu itself supports are head, body, feet and hands. Anything else is unsupported.

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Well...

4 hours ago, ASlySpyDuo said:

If that armor is from Modular Clothing System, it just might be incompatible with RaceMenu

I took a look at it and yep, it's incompatible due to way it works. Does this area look familiar:

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It's the area where you see your overlays. As I said before, RaceMenu basically copies your bodymesh - the thing is, since MCS supplies its own bodies which are chopped up to 3 separate NiTriShapes with different slots so that they are hidden when appropriate gear is equipped to reduce clipping and RM only "clones" the body slot and that's what you get.

 

Since RM development ended in 2015 or so and this likely will not be fixed ever, your options are to either not use overlays or get rid of MCS.

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