Dracorex Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hello everyone, I have encountered a bug I haven't quite been able to resolve. More often than not, whenever there is combat, NPCs keep unsheathing their weapons, putting them back and then they start this nonsense all over again. Sometimes they manage to land a couple of hit before going through this bug. It happens with every actor, warriors, mages and even creatures, they just stop being hostile for a second, engage in combat and then they start all over again. This didn't happen at all with my previous characters, it only started with my new one yesterday. Unfortunately I didn't keep the old saves so I can't check whether I can replicate it there, but I tried making another new character and this behaviour is still present. I honestly cannot figure out what is causing this, I haven't really changed my load order that much. At first I thought it was due to Scent of Sex, but I tried removing it and starting anew but no luck, NPCs were still schizophrenic. The only things I changed were a couple of SKSE plugins that I updated, namely "Yes I'm Sure" and "Stay at the system page - updated", I also updated "AddItemMenu" and added "Pick up books simple", "Eloquent Reader", "SpellScribe" and "Outlaws Refuges". I also removed "Skyrim Immersive Creatures" and related patches, it kept crashing my game whenever I saved after killing specific creatures. I don't have the .esp of the Particle Patch because the nexus page said not to use it, and I haven't noticed any problems on that front. I did clean the vanilla .esm-s and ran my tools, LOOT, Wrye Bash and FNIS. Any ideas? Load order under the spoiler tag. I apologize if it's been asked before, I haven't been able to find the thread. EDIT: Solved it, I had some time and fiddled around with the load order and found it really was "Pick up books simple". I removed it and only had that problem a couple times, but now it seems to have gone away for good. I still do not know why I had these two new instances, but hey, at least I can have proper fights now. I have no clue why that mod caused all this baggage, I guess it was the whole "associate book reading to having your weapons out" malarkey. EDIT2: I re-installed Scent of Sex, and it, too, caused this bug. I have no clue why and I don't have the energy to troubleshoot it, it's just beyond me, I'll leave it here in the unlikely case someone else has my problem. Which is a shame, that mod looks damn good. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 SexLabAroused.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 10 a HammetDungeons.esm 11 b SkyUI_SE.esp 12 c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 13 d JKs Skyrim.esp 14 e Friendlier Taverns.esp 15 f Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 16 10 Cutting Room Floor.esp 17 11 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 18 12 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 19 13 MysticismMagic.esp 20 14 OBIS SE.esp 21 15 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 22 16 Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp 23 17 ENB Light.esp 24 18 Fixed body collision.esp 25 19 RaceMenu.esp 26 1a RaceMenuHH.esp 27 1b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 28 1c UIExtensions.esp 29 1d dse-soulgem-oven.esp 30 1e SexLab UtilityPlus.esp 31 1f SexLabDefeat.esp 32 20 SexLabMatchMaker.esp 33 21 SexLabTools.esp 34 22 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 35 23 SLAnimLoader.esp 36 24 SLSO.esp 37 25 SOSRaceMenu.esp 38 26 XPMSE.esp 39 27 FNIS.esp 40 28 FNISSexyMove.esp 41 29 SexLab_Solutions.esp 42 2a ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 254 FE 0 BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp 43 2b TERAArmorsSSE.esp 44 2c TeraArmorSSE Level List LOOT.esp 45 2d TeraArmorsSSE LOOT USSEP Patch.esp 46 2e Immersive Weapons.esp 47 2f CBBE.esp 48 30 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 254 FE 1 SINful CBP.esp 254 FE 2 3BBB.esp 49 31 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 50 32 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 51 33 Bijin AIO.esp 52 34 Bijin AIO - YBMT.esp 53 35 CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp 54 36 KS_Hairdo's_Lite_NoNPCs.esp 55 37 PAN_NPCs.esp 56 38 PAN_NPCs_DG.esp 57 39 PAN_Serana.esp 58 3a Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 59 3b SOS - Bound Cock Addon.esp 60 3c SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp 61 3d SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 62 3e AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 63 3f AddItemMenuSE.esp 64 40 AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp 65 41 Cathedral Weathers.esp 66 42 Dress Up Lovers.esp 67 43 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 68 44 J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp 254 FE 3 More Radiant Quests for the Companions.esp 69 45 Pickpocket100Chance.esp 70 46 QuickLight.esp 71 47 Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp 72 48 Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp 254 FE 4 SleepTight.esp 73 49 TKDodge.esp 74 4a UltimateCombat.esp 75 4b VioLens SE.esp 76 4c 20 More Perk Points.esp 77 4d Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 78 4e Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp 79 4f The Brotherhood of Old.esp 80 50 Clockwork.esp 81 51 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp 82 52 Immersive Encounters.esp 83 53 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 84 54 Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp 85 55 Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp 86 56 OutlawsRefuges.esp 87 57 Penitus_Oculatus.esp 88 58 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 254 FE 5 DBM_IW_Patch.esp 89 59 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp 90 5a RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 6 DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp 91 5b iNeed.esp 254 FE 7 JKs Skyrim_Clockwork_Patch.esp 254 FE 8 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 9 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 254 FE a JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp 92 5c Missives.esp 93 5d The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 94 5e Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 95 5f SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 254 FE b JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp 254 FE c DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp 254 FE d DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp 254 FE e DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp 96 60 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 97 61 bm_SimpleAction.esp 98 62 Cosmic Spells.esp 99 63 DeadlyDragons.esp 100 64 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 254 FE f FleshFX.esp 101 65 Fulcimentum - Apocalypse Patch.esp 102 66 High Level Enemies.esp 103 67 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp 104 68 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp 105 69 honedmetal.esp 106 6a Immersive Speechcraft.esp 107 6b LootandDegradation.esp 254 FE 10 Missives - Solstheim.esp 108 6c Mystic Addons - Armor Visuals Tweaks.esp 109 6d SmithingOils.esp 110 6e Spell Learning.esp 111 6f Summermyst - Loot and Degradation Patch.esp 112 70 The Dark Arts.esp 113 71 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp 254 FE 11 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - CuttingRoomFloor Patch.esp 254 FE 12 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp 254 FE 13 DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE 14 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp 254 FE 15 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 16 Qw_PANNPCs_CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 17 Qw_WACCF_LSCrossbows Patch.esp 114 72 Scribe.esp 115 73 Scrolls.esp 116 74 PickUpBooksSimple.esp 117 75 True Scholar.esp 118 76 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 119 77 Trade & Barter.esp 254 FE 18 DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp 120 78 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp 254 FE 19 DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp 254 FE 1a Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp 121 79 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 122 7a iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 123 7b CACO - iNeed DD Patch.esp 254 FE 1b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp 124 7c iNeed CACO Patch.esp 254 FE 1c CACO_Growl_Patch.esp 254 FE 1d CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp 254 FE 1e CACO_Wintersun.esp 254 FE 1f DBM_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 20 Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp 125 7d Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 126 7e MysticOrdinator.esp 254 FE 21 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 254 FE 22 CCOR_Ordinator.esp 127 7f Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 128 80 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 129 81 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 130 82 nwsFollowerFramework.esp 254 FE 23 nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp 254 FE 24 nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp 131 83 WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp 132 84 Sum_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE 25 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Link to comment
Grevik Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 I've had this issue for so long and i'd basicly given up on ever fixing it, turned out it was Pick up books that was causing it. Thank you so much for updating your post, you just saved my game. I know this topic is over a year old but after going through hundreds off other topics and potential fixes this is the only one that actually worked. Link to comment
Yoen Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 hello im having a similar issue, i dont use and have never used "pick up books" can you help me? Link to comment
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