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Hello everyone, I have encountered a bug I haven't quite been able to resolve. More often than not, whenever there is combat, NPCs keep unsheathing their weapons, putting them back and then they start this nonsense all over again. Sometimes they manage to land a couple of hit before going through this bug. It happens with every actor, warriors, mages and even creatures, they just stop being hostile for a second, engage in combat and then they start all over again. This didn't happen at all with my previous characters, it only started with my new one yesterday.
Unfortunately I didn't keep the old saves so I can't check whether I can replicate it there, but I tried making another new character and this behaviour is still present.

I honestly cannot figure out what is causing this, I haven't really changed my load order that much. At first I thought it was due to Scent of Sex, but I tried removing it and starting anew but no luck, NPCs were still schizophrenic.

The only things I changed were a couple of SKSE plugins that I updated, namely "Yes I'm Sure" and "Stay at the system page - updated", I also updated "AddItemMenu" and added "Pick up books simple", "Eloquent Reader", "SpellScribe" and "Outlaws Refuges". I also removed "Skyrim Immersive Creatures" and related patches, it kept crashing my game whenever I saved after killing specific creatures.

I don't have the .esp of the Particle Patch because the nexus page said not to use it, and I haven't noticed any problems on that front. I did clean the vanilla .esm-s and ran my tools, LOOT, Wrye Bash and FNIS.

Any ideas? Load order under the spoiler tag. I apologize if it's been asked before, I haven't been able to find the thread.

EDIT: Solved it, I had some time and fiddled around with the load order and found it really was "Pick up books simple". I removed it and only had that problem a couple times, but now it seems to have gone away for good. I still do not know why I had these two new instances, but hey, at least I can have proper fights now. I have no clue why that mod caused all this baggage, I guess it was the whole "associate book reading to having your weapons out" malarkey.

 

EDIT2: I re-installed Scent of Sex, and it, too, caused this bug. I have no clue why and I don't have the energy to troubleshoot it, it's just beyond me, I'll leave it here in the unlikely case someone else has my problem. Which is a shame, that mod looks damn good.

 

Spoiler

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     SexLab.esm
  7  7     SexLabAroused.esm
  8  8     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
  9  9     LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
 10  a     HammetDungeons.esm
 11  b     SkyUI_SE.esp
 12  c     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 13  d     JKs Skyrim.esp
 14  e     Friendlier Taverns.esp
 15  f     Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
 16 10     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 17 11     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 18 12     Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
 19 13     MysticismMagic.esp
 20 14     OBIS SE.esp
 21 15     Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp
 22 16     Legendary Skyrim Crossbows.esp
 23 17     ENB Light.esp
 24 18     Fixed body collision.esp
 25 19     RaceMenu.esp
 26 1a     RaceMenuHH.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 28 1c     UIExtensions.esp
 29 1d     dse-soulgem-oven.esp
 30 1e     SexLab UtilityPlus.esp
 31 1f     SexLabDefeat.esp
 32 20     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 33 21     SexLabTools.esp
 34 22     SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
 35 23     SLAnimLoader.esp
 36 24     SLSO.esp
 37 25     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 38 26     XPMSE.esp
 39 27     FNIS.esp
 40 28     FNISSexyMove.esp
 41 29     SexLab_Solutions.esp
 42 2a     ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
254 FE   0 BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp
 43 2b     TERAArmorsSSE.esp
 44 2c     TeraArmorSSE Level List LOOT.esp
 45 2d     TeraArmorsSSE LOOT USSEP Patch.esp
 46 2e     Immersive Weapons.esp
 47 2f     CBBE.esp
 48 30     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
254 FE   1 SINful CBP.esp
254 FE   2 3BBB.esp
 49 31     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
 50 32     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 51 33     Bijin AIO.esp
 52 34     Bijin AIO - YBMT.esp
 53 35     CosmeticVampireOverhaul.esp
 54 36     KS_Hairdo's_Lite_NoNPCs.esp
 55 37     PAN_NPCs.esp
 56 38     PAN_NPCs_DG.esp
 57 39     PAN_Serana.esp
 58 3a     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 59 3b     SOS - Bound Cock Addon.esp
 60 3c     SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp
 61 3d     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 62 3e     AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
 63 3f     AddItemMenuSE.esp
 64 40     AllThievesGuildJobsConcurrently.esp
 65 41     Cathedral Weathers.esp
 66 42     Dress Up Lovers.esp
 67 43     Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
 68 44     J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
254 FE   3 More Radiant Quests for the Companions.esp
 69 45     Pickpocket100Chance.esp
 70 46     QuickLight.esp
 71 47     Realistic AI Detection 2 SE - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
 72 48     Rebalanced Encounter Zones.esp
254 FE   4 SleepTight.esp
 73 49     TKDodge.esp
 74 4a     UltimateCombat.esp
 75 4b     VioLens SE.esp
 76 4c     20 More Perk Points.esp
 77 4d     Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
 78 4e     Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
 79 4f     The Brotherhood of Old.esp
 80 50     Clockwork.esp
 81 51     Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp
 82 52     Immersive Encounters.esp
 83 53     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
 84 54     Growl - Werebeasts of Skyrim.esp
 85 55     Fulcimentum - More Staves and Wands of Skyrim.esp
 86 56     OutlawsRefuges.esp
 87 57     Penitus_Oculatus.esp
 88 58     SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp
254 FE   5 DBM_IW_Patch.esp
 89 59     CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp
 90 5a     RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
254 FE   6 DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp
 91 5b     iNeed.esp
254 FE   7 JKs Skyrim_Clockwork_Patch.esp
254 FE   8 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE   9 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
254 FE   a JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
 92 5c     Missives.esp
 93 5d     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 94 5e     Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp
 95 5f     SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
254 FE   b JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp
254 FE   c DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp
254 FE   d DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp
254 FE   e DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp
 96 60     Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
 97 61     bm_SimpleAction.esp
 98 62     Cosmic Spells.esp
 99 63     DeadlyDragons.esp
100 64     Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
254 FE   f FleshFX.esp
101 65     Fulcimentum - Apocalypse Patch.esp
102 66     High Level Enemies.esp
103 67     High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
104 68     High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
105 69     honedmetal.esp
106 6a     Immersive Speechcraft.esp
107 6b     LootandDegradation.esp
254 FE  10 Missives - Solstheim.esp
108 6c     Mystic Addons - Armor Visuals Tweaks.esp
109 6d     SmithingOils.esp
110 6e     Spell Learning.esp
111 6f     Summermyst - Loot and Degradation Patch.esp
112 70     The Dark Arts.esp
113 71     WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp
254 FE  11 WardsFunctionalitiesExtended - CuttingRoomFloor Patch.esp
254 FE  12 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
254 FE  13 DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE  14 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp
254 FE  15 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE  16 Qw_PANNPCs_CRF Patch.esp
254 FE  17 Qw_WACCF_LSCrossbows Patch.esp
114 72     Scribe.esp
115 73     Scrolls.esp
116 74     PickUpBooksSimple.esp
117 75     True Scholar.esp
118 76     Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp
119 77     Trade & Barter.esp
254 FE  18 DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp
120 78     Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp
254 FE  19 DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp
254 FE  1a Immersive Weapons_CCOR_Patch.esp
121 79     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
122 7a     iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
123 7b     CACO - iNeed DD Patch.esp
254 FE  1b Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp
124 7c     iNeed CACO Patch.esp
254 FE  1c CACO_Growl_Patch.esp
254 FE  1d CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp
254 FE  1e CACO_Wintersun.esp
254 FE  1f DBM_CACO_Patch.esp
254 FE  20 Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp
125 7d     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
126 7e     MysticOrdinator.esp
254 FE  21 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp
254 FE  22 CCOR_Ordinator.esp
127 7f     Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp
128 80     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
129 81     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
130 82     nwsFollowerFramework.esp
254 FE  23 nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp
254 FE  24 nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp
131 83     WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
132 84     Sum_WACCF_Patch.esp
254 FE  25 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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  • 1 year later...

I've had this issue for so long and i'd basicly given up on ever fixing it, turned out it was Pick up books that was causing it. Thank you so much for updating your post, you just saved my game.  I know this topic is over a year old but after going through hundreds off other topics and potential fixes this is the only one that actually worked.

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