Armor conversions

[Wolfstorm321]

I see a lot of armor conversions being released for Skyrim.

There are armor conversions from BDO, Witcher 2 and 3, among many other games, including anime-oriented games.

These armors come straight from these other games, and are adapted very well for Skyrim.

However, I dont see armors from ESO being converted. Quite the irony, since they are from the same series of Skyrim.

The only thing I saw was a breton rogue armor which was not a conversion, but actually a unique model, made by a modder, and based on the equivalent model from ESO.

 

Are armors from ESO locked behind cryptography?

If so, how hard is to break it?

Are there any technical limitations which wont allow for these armors to be converted? Like nodes from the meshes, for example?

BDO is a MMO in the same way as ESO, and they armors were converted. If I'm not mistaken, I also saw GW armors converted to Skyrim.

 

I'm just curious. All this time and I never saw a conversion. So I made this question for people who work with armor conversions, to clarify the issue. Is it cryptography, or some other technical issue? Are the files locked?

[Angeliah]

I usually see model conversions for games that have models that are easier to access. ESO's files aren't super encrypted or anything it just seems like there's a general lack of interest for porting over armors. If you're interested and you had some specific armor in mind I could try to get the model for you, just let me know.

 

Sort of off topic but I'm trying to replace the skyrim vampire lord with the new one from eso, not too sure how to replace it properly but I did manage to get the model. Getting the model wasn't too much of a pain in the ass although the uv maps were kind of screwed up and I had to sift through thousands of other meshes to find it.  Here's a picture of the VL from eso I extracted.

 

[Nerevairine]

On 6/3/2020 at 1:25 AM, choodemasta111 said:

I usually see model conversions for games that have models that are easier to access. ESO's files aren't super encrypted or anything it just seems like there's a general lack of interest for porting over armors. If you're interested and you had some specific armor in mind I could try to get the model for you, just let me know.

 

Sort of off topic but I'm trying to replace the skyrim vampire lord with the new one from eso, not too sure how to replace it properly but I did manage to get the model. Getting the model wasn't too much of a pain in the ass although the uv maps were kind of screwed up and I had to sift through thousands of other meshes to find it.  Here's a picture of the VL from eso I extracted.

 

Could you convert the Imperial armors, the Emperor's Regalia and the Aldmeri Dominion armors please?

[Angeliah]

2 hours ago, Nerevairine said:

Could you convert the Imperial armors, the Emperor's Regalia and the Aldmeri Dominion armors please?

Well I can definitely get the models if you tell me which ones, I think I already have the Emperor's regalia somewhere in my computer. I'm not very good at actually putting them in the game though but I am learning.

[Nerevairine]

Thanks! I will search the extracted mnf for the models. Gonna take some time though since i'm pretty sure that i probably only extracted the textures' one.

[Nerevairine]

Now I know why people don't convert stuff from eso, all of the files' names are numbers...

[Nerevairine]

After coming to the conclusion that i extracted the right .mnf file and searching all of the .gr2 files i extracted i can't seem to find the models that i mentioned previously.

[Wolfstorm321]

On 6/2/2020 at 9:25 PM, choodemasta111 said:

I usually see model conversions for games that have models that are easier to access. ESO's files aren't super encrypted or anything it just seems like there's a general lack of interest for porting over armors. If you're interested and you had some specific armor in mind I could try to get the model for you, just let me know.

 

 

I was looking for the Welkynar and Ebony sets. I tried to open the game files some weeks ago, but failed to do so.

 

But then, they will not have much use if they cant be bodyslided.

[RedMonika]

That depends if you're LE or SSE

Here's a couple... But I have seen them on Nexus for LE too

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6701?tab=description

[Wolfstorm321]

2 hours ago, RedMonika said:

That depends if you're LE or SSE

Here's a couple... But I have seen them on Nexus for LE too

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6701?tab=description

 

 

These are the ones I mentioned in the OP.

They are not conversions, but were made from scratch.

 

How did you open the files, for the vampire model?

[RedMonika]

13 minutes ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

 

 

These are the ones I mentioned in the OP.

They are not conversions, but were made from scratch.

 

How did you open the files, for the vampire model?

Sorry, I was trying to be helpful. I didn't fully read. I didn't open them as they're not something that I would use.

[Angeliah]

14 hours ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

 

 

These are the ones I mentioned in the OP.

They are not conversions, but were made from scratch.

 

How did you open the files, for the vampire model?

I ripped the models from my gpu whilst in the game. You don't happen to have a character with both of those armor that you want do you?

[Angeliah]

    Speaking of vampire models, just got the Blood Scion model too for fun. So you guys are looking for the Welkynar, Ebony, Emperor's Regalia, and the entire sets of Aldmeri and Imperial armors or just one specific type for each? I should also mention that the armors will only be in one gender's model not both unless you want them both It'll just be one.

[Wolfstorm321]

I'm looking for the female sets of Welkynar and Ebony. But they need to be in a nif format, so I can bodyslide them.

 

[Angeliah]

Are you able to align them to the vanilla shape or do I have to do that in 3ds. Because the characters default position differs in eso from skyrim.

[Wolfstorm321]

I'm not. I use the outfit studio to shape the armor to CBBE. This is the only thing I know how to do.

 

But, how can you extract the armor without the body in it? Because the vampire model you showed is a body, not a armor.

 

I've made a search and found one software called Ninja Ripper. Do you recommend it, or do you know a better solution?

[Nerevairine]

6 hours ago, choodemasta111 said:

    Speaking of vampire models, just got the Blood Scion model too for fun. So you guys are looking for the Welkynar, Ebony, Emperor's Regalia, and the entire sets of Aldmeri and Imperial armors or just one specific type for each? I should also mention that the armors will only be in one gender's model not both unless you want them both It'll just be one.

 

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I was looking for the Regalia, the Imperial and the Dominion in both genders since the dominion is for an outfit replacer and the other 2 are standalone.

[Wolfstorm321]

Tried the Ninja Ripper, but it generated hundreds of small mesh files, with the .rip extension. After reaching 5125 files (meshes and textures), I was kicked from the server.

Now I have this folder with 5125 files, for a single armor. Guess I will not be able to assemble them.

 

Edit: upon opening the dds files, I noticed it ripped the entire scene, as there were pieces of buildings, plants, banners, etc.

 

[Angeliah]

Yea Ninja Ripper takes all the data your gpu is currently displaying and dumps it into a readable file type, so everything rendered is what you get that's why there's so many files. There's really no easy way to find what you're looking for except for importing them in large groups and hoping you found the right ones. It's best to just skip anything that's super small in the kilobyte range or anything super large 10+ megabytes because character models in this game rarely exceed anything over 4mb or go below 90kb. As for the getting the armor, yes you can get it not just the body it'll be in one mesh. 

 

Other things to note if you use that program, since you actually have to have it physically rendered in the game it's best if you check the textures to see if you got the characters model after ripping everything. Otherwise you'll have to keep launching the game and other annoying things.

[Wolfstorm321]

I didnt know about such tools before.

I thought you had to decrypt and open the game files.

 

Anyway, I was able to open one armor set in Blender.

Unfortunatelly, it came the entire model, with her face and hands, not the armor pieces isolated.

 

 

However, I noticed any piece of architecture can be ripped and opened in Blender. If I discover how to convert these pieces to nif, I could have entire new kits for the CK.

 

 

[Angeliah]

Yea Ninjaripper isn't selective it does the whole thing like you mentioned, it shouldn't be too hard to just delete the characters features and separate the pieces you need. Also you can convert them into nif files using nifskope right?

[Medivh85]

On 6/19/2020 at 6:59 AM, choodemasta111 said:

Yea Ninjaripper isn't selective it does the whole thing like you mentioned, it shouldn't be too hard to just delete the characters features and separate the pieces you need. Also you can convert them into nif files using nifskope right?

Do you still have the emperor model with texture and the removed character features like face etc? if so could you please send it to me in pm? 

thank you

[Angeliah]

On 5/4/2022 at 3:58 AM, Medivh85 said:

Do you still have the emperor model with texture and the removed character features like face etc? if so could you please send it to me in pm? 

thank you

Sure I'll have to do some digging to find the files. One thing though, if I remember correctly the texture of the helmet got sort of corrupted. 

[Medivh85]

9 hours ago, choodemasta111 said:

Sure I'll have to do some digging to find the files. One thing though, if I remember correctly the texture of the helmet got sort of corrupted. 

all right i'll wait your pm