FluffyEureka Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Hey! Stupid modlist here. If anyone at a glance can tell that something looks really idiotic in my load order, or if you know from previous experience what mods might conflict, i would be very greatful. Have started slowly disabling and enabling mods to fix my in game crashes, but i'm curios for what specifically might be the problem. Most of the mods were working together pretty well until just recently. Feel free to point out even obvious mistakes here, I'm new to modding. EDIT: I'm testing it in my current situation where i'm entering into whiterun from house, if that helps figuring anything out. A not very organized load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccbgssse016-umbra.esm 6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 7 7 3DNPC.esp 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 11 b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 c GenderBender.esm 13 d RaceCompatibility.esm 14 e ApachiiHair.esm 15 f ApachiiHairFemales.esm 16 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 19 13 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 20 14 DeviousFramework.esm 21 15 FlowerGirls SE.esm 22 16 FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm 23 17 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 254 FE 0 URN Extended.esp 24 18 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 25 19 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 26 1a SkyUI_SE.esp 27 1b iNeed.esp 28 1c iNeed - Extended.esp 29 1d TouringCarriages.esp 30 1e Cutting Room Floor.esp 31 1f ELFX - Weathers.esp 32 20 Joy of Perspective.esp 33 21 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 34 22 sr_FillHerUp.esp 35 23 SOS - ERF - HighPoly Equipable.esp 36 24 SOS - ERF - HighPoly Addon.esp 37 25 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 38 26 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed - Deep Immersion.esp 39 27 SexLab_Solutions.esp 40 28 Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp 41 29 Immersive Music.esp 42 2a ERF - Succubus.esp 43 2b ERF - Succubus - PSQ Addon.esp 44 2c SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 254 FE 1 AIMFIX.esp 45 2d Immersive Encounters.esp 46 2e Better NPC - Faction Pack.esp 47 2f Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 48 30 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 49 31 Fluffjiits.esp 50 32 Better Followers - BP.esp 51 33 SimpleSlavery.esp 52 34 DeviousFollowers.esp 53 35 EasierRidersDungeonPackSSE.esp 54 36 TimingIsEverything.esp 55 37 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 56 38 SOS - Shop.esp 57 39 Hel.esp 58 3a Shindara.esp 59 3b Yashira.esp 60 3c Korosukenari - Followers.esp 61 3d DFemaleFollowers.esp 62 3e SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 63 3f Nemain.esp 64 40 Dezicrah.esp 65 41 PrettyCorpses.esp 66 42 AmandaHBFrostfruitInn.esp 67 43 chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp 68 44 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp 69 45 plebWithoutWaterMod.esp 70 46 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 71 47 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 72 48 3BBB.esp 254 FE 2 3BBB-SL_NoStrip.esp 254 FE 3 3BBB-FlowerGirls_NoStrip.esp 254 FE 4 3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp 254 FE 5 3BBB-SL_FG_NoStrip.esp 254 FE 6 SINful CBP.esp 73 49 KS Hairdo's.esp 74 4a ERF - Futanari CBBE - Equippable.esp 75 4b SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp 76 4c IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 77 4d TrueHel.esp 78 4e Maelstrom.esp 79 4f PeeAndFart.esp 80 50 AnellaFollower.esp 254 FE 7 3DNPC0.esp 81 51 NeridaTheCrow.esp 82 52 Wildcat - Realistic Damage Plugin.esp 83 53 FEMALE.esp 84 54 BanditEncounters.esp 85 55 Animated Dragon WingsSE.esp 86 56 CBBE.esp 87 57 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 88 58 SexLabDefeat.esp 89 59 mslDeviousCaptures.esp 90 5a DD_Helpers.esp 91 5b ShindaraHeelsOutfit.esp 92 5c DeviouslyHelpless.esp 93 5d FNIS.esp 94 5e FNISspells.esp 95 5f RaceMenu.esp 96 60 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 97 61 DfwSupport.esp 98 62 SLAnimLoader.esp 99 63 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 100 64 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 101 65 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Scent of Sex.esp 102 66 SL_shrines.esp 103 67 SlaveTats.esp 104 68 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 105 69 Tribal Tattoo Overlays.esp 106 6a SOSRaceMenu.esp 107 6b XPMSE.esp 108 6c submissivelola.esp 109 6d Xanafollower.esp 110 6e Nerida.esp 111 6f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 112 70 Malanore.esp 113 71 LoreWorthyBandits.esp 114 72 MoreVanillaBandits.esp 115 73 RandomizedSpawning.esp 116 74 SexLab Submit.esp 117 75 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 118 76 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 254 FE 8 Bathing in Skyrim SE - Alternate Start.esp 119 77 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 120 78 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 121 79 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 254 FE 9 SoS_ImmersiveCitizens_Patch.esp 122 7a Immersive Citizens - TC patch.esp 123 7b nwsFollowerFramework.esp 254 FE a nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp 254 FE b Unique Region Names.esp 254 FE c Easyriders Dungeon Pack Unique Region Names Patch.esp 124 7c ELFXEnhancer.esp 254 FE d SoS_ELFX+Enhancer+Weathers_Patch.esp 125 7d Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
Adviser69 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 I'll see if I can help, because I can see a few things wrong. First, choose between either Flower Girls or Sexlab, since both are similar script heavy frameworks. Second, other than race and cosmetic altering mods, I've found that most SL mods work best when loaded close to the bottom, above Alternate Start and any other dead last mods. Third, follow the load order guide in my signature to get the load order more streamlined. Fourth, make sure you run FNIS for the animations. Fifth, make sure your meshes/textures are properly converted for SE, and that all appropriate bodyslides for bodies, clothes and armor are built in Bodyslide Studio. Sixth, make sure your system can handle a heavily modded game. Mods like DCL can be a little hefty on resources. Seventh, check mod settings in MCM for conflicts or incompatibilities. If you run Defeat, turn DCL's combat surrender off. Next, get CBPC instead of just CBP since you're running a 3BBB body. Finally, enable Papyrus logging in your Skyrim.ini after doing all that, and run the game. If it does crash again and it's not caused by a bad mesh, then the log might give some indication of what the cause is. Hope this helps a bit.
Mez558 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Before someone responds with a (justifiably) caustic response What is actually happening Does it:- Crash on loading skyrim (Probably a missing Master file) Crash on loading a save game load (probably a missing requirement for that save) Crash on loading a save and new game (probably too many animations) Crash randomly in game (Memory issue) Crash at the same point (probably missing/Bad asset/mesh) Do you have any crash fixes installed? If not, get sum.
FluffyEureka Posted February 6, 2020 Author Posted February 6, 2020 Wall of text warning. After disabling and tinkering with recently enabled mods I'm pretty sure it has to do with CBBE 3BBB Amazing. The crashes stopped as soon as I disabled it, SINful CBP and HDT-SMP. Pretty sure it's one of those clashing with some MCM setting i made, likely an inflation/deflation setting from another batch of mods i disabled. Will revise and go through them again to make sure that's good. 23 minutes ago, Adviser69 said: I'll see if I can help, because I can see a few things wrong. First, choose between either Flower Girls or Sexlab, since both are similar script heavy frameworks. Second, other than race and cosmetic altering mods, I've found that most SL mods work best when loaded close to the bottom, above Alternate Start and any other dead last mods. Third, follow the load order guide in my signature to get the load order more streamlined. Fourth, make sure you run FNIS for the animations. Fifth, make sure your meshes/textures are properly converted for SE, and that all appropriate bodyslides for bodies, clothes and armor are built in Bodyslide Studio. Sixth, make sure your system can handle a heavily modded game. Mods like DCL can be a little hefty on resources. Seventh, check mod settings in MCM for conflicts or incompatibilities. If you run Defeat, turn DCL's combat surrender off. Next, get CBPC instead of just CBP since you're running a 3BBB body. Finally, enable Papyrus logging in your Skyrim.ini after doing all that, and run the game. If it does crash again and it's not caused by a bad mesh, then the log might give some indication of what the cause is. Hope this helps a bit. It seems none of those was the issue, but i'm very thankful for the insight and will keep those points in mind. It might just help me avoid more issues down the line. Note this list is taken directly from LOOT. Also note i'm using Vortex. I know it's not a widely accepted loader, but it has been very kind to me. Flower girls and sexlab mods have been working fine for me together honestly. Flower Girls is not a mod i have to keep here, i mostly installed it to test it's functions. It's not a favorite for me personally. I will try to load sexlab mods late and see what happens. Very happy if it improves something. I use FNIS regularly and have had no problems with it except some minor user errors (all blame on me). I had creatures enabled as well, but found a thread noting that it can cause problems, so i tried disabling it before posting here to no avail. Slowly starting to realise how bodyslide works, and after following each mod thread to the letter, not had much problem with it. I have purposedly avoided heavy textures on the world to make sure my 8GB RAM system can run it, as the characters and everything else in between is what matters to me. Performance have not been much of a problem except when a mod loads something heavy, usually on load or new game. I have had a lot of fun tinkering with Submit, Defeat, and cursed loot that all allow combat surrender. It's a hell of a lot of fun trying to figure out what combination of settings work best honestly. I'm pretty sure my crashes were not from there. CBPC is installed and enabled. Not sure why it did not show up in LOOT list. I have had problems with Papyrus. Mostly vortex complaining it's not compatible with certain mods. Any idea what's going on there? Not experienced any major issues on that front tho. 42 minutes ago, Mez558 said: Before someone responds with a (justifiably) caustic response What is actually happening Does it:- Crash on loading skyrim (Probably a missing Master file) Crash on loading a save game load (probably a missing requirement for that save) Crash on loading a save and new game (probably too many animations) Crash randomly in game (Memory issue) Crash at the same point (probably missing/Bad asset/mesh) Do you have any crash fixes installed? If not, get sum. It was first crashing at random times from after I exited the player home start you can get with Alternate Start, and after disabling some mods it started crashing on load screen out to whiterun right away. It runns fine now tho, after i disabled CBBE 3BBB Amazing. Just have to go through all the mods i uninstalled one after one and see what actually works together now. Thank you guys for your help!
FluffyEureka Posted February 6, 2020 Author Posted February 6, 2020 I'm definitely going to add mods i have to categories. Will make figuring out what conflicts so much easier. Been putting it off for a while now. Vortex is complaining JContainers have no valid dll. If anyone know why or how to fix it, please tell me. My game have been working before with those issues tho.
Adviser69 Posted February 6, 2020 Posted February 6, 2020 Glad I could help in a way. Didn't say Flower Girls and SL didn't work together, I just said they were similar script heavy frameworks. If I had a beefier system, I would run both just for the fun of it. ? And CBPC doesn't show in LOOT because it has no plugin, it's just a dll configuration file. Not sure why SinfulCBP has one, come to think of it. Hope you can have a great, stable playthrough, and keep posted if you need any more help.
FluffyEureka Posted February 6, 2020 Author Posted February 6, 2020 I will thank you! I know how you feel with that, used to play games on a laptop with 2GB ram until a few months ago. Could not even run Vanilla Skyrim SSE on minimum setings. SINful CBP has it's own MCM settings to change "firmness" and "Jigglyness". Quite convenient actually. Might actually be sinful that is clashing with something. Will have to check. Have a fantastic day! EDIT: I will have to make it a habit to check how things run after changing a MCM setting. Changing multiple at a time is what might have given me those problems to begin with. EDIT2: It's def MCM settings that gave me crashes. After trying to load a previous load with all the same MCM settings, it crashes right away. It's not much of an issue as this is a relatively new save for testing purposes. Will say to anyone else who might be helped by it: Be careful what to change in MCM. Especially in physics Frameworks and if you have a lot of mods installed. So in the end it seems no mods were faulty, just my settings.
FluffyEureka Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 So now that i have installed CBBE 3BBB Amazing again i noticed i had put load order for it before CBPC. Might this have done anything to cause crashes?
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