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Firstly I would like to say that this is a problem I searched for and didn't find a detailed explanation for, so I decided to revisit the issue.

 

The problem is that Lovers Joburg or Lovers MB2 isn't causing NPC's to masturbate during PC sex or masturbation. The INI files for both don't seem to have a option to configure that option, however, the .ESP of Joburg does have that option. But, I don't want to go fiddling around with an .ESP and mess anything up as I am not experienced in that sort of thing and a backup would be too time consuming considering the amount of mods I have installed.

 

Just to show that it isn't a problem with my load order I will post it below.

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

A_Bloody_Mess.esm

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

LoversStripper.esp

Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Living Economy.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

Knights.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversMB2.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

BisSP_RHH_2.esp

ATakesAll.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

Basic Primary Needs.esp

Basic Personal Hygiene.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities .esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp

CB Stylish Outfit.esp

Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

LoversEncounter.esp

LoversTamagoClub.esp

TamagoBreak.esp

TamagoConfide.esp

TamagoNews.esp

TamagoSetBody.esp

TamagoShop.esp

TamagoTopic.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

SetBody.esp

Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp

VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

VipCxjHHTest.esp

adelina.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

0FLeatherSuitV2.esp

Westwind_Rogue_HGEC.esp

Mage Leather Armor.esp

TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp

LoversHooker.esp

LoversAphrodisia.esp

LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp

One handed weapons on back.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

zzEstrus.esp

Tavern-Goers 2.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

 

 

 

Any fixes for this?

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Actually the problem more than likely IS your load order. That load order is terrible.

 

1. All lovers esp files should be underneath tamago club plugins.

2. NO lovers files should be underneath these two:

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

Having lovers plugins below the above two pretty much guarantees that lovers won't work worth a damn.

3. The official DLC should be at the TOP of your load order.

 

Long story short you need to download and run BOSS. After running BOSS then compare your lovers plugins load order to this one: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133

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Ok I ran boss and used your link to make a completely revised load order but the same problem still persists. here's my new load order. Any new suggestions or tips?

 

On a side not, all of the NPC's do seem to run up to me in sneak mode and look that's about all though.

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

A_Bloody_Mess.esm

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Knights.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

TamagoBreak.esp

TamagoNews.esp

TamagoShop.esp

TamagoTopic.esp

TamagoConfide.esp

LoversTamagoClub.esp

LoversEncounter.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

TamagoSetBody.esp

LoversAphrodisia.esp

LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversStripper.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

SetBody.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

LoversHooker.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Living Economy.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

LoversMB2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

BisSP_RHH_2.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

Basic Primary Needs.esp

Basic Personal Hygiene.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities .esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp

Tavern-Goers 2.esp

CB Stylish Outfit.esp

Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp

VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

VipCxjHHTest.esp

adelina.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

0FLeatherSuitV2.esp

Westwind_Rogue_HGEC.esp

Mage Leather Armor.esp

TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

zzEstrus.esp

One handed weapons on back.esp

ATakesAll.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

 

 

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Ok, that isn't a fixed load order. Yes, you did organize things per the spoiler but all of the crap that you have below the bashed patch is completely wrong.

 

Try this:

 

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

Lovers with PK.esm

x117race.esm

Chanpon.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

A_Bloody_Mess.esm

TamagoClub.esm

HiyokoClub.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

Francesco's Optional Files.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

Knights.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

BisSP_RHH_2.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

UOPS Additional Changes.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

Basic Primary Needs.esp

Basic Personal Hygiene.esp

HUD Status Bars.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

Scribe Supplies.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp

Better Cities .esp

Silverlight Armor by Jojjo.esp

StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp

Tavern-Goers 2.esp

CB Stylish Outfit.esp

Sexy Light Blackwood Armor.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp <-------NOTE: You don't need this since you have UOP

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

Woman's Move - Animation Replacer.esp

VipCxj_HighHeels.esp

VipCxjHHTest.esp

adelina.esp

ShaiyaOutfit.esp

0FLeatherSuitV2.esp

Westwind_Rogue_HGEC.esp

Mage Leather Armor.esp

TrawlolsCorinthianGladiator.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

zzEstrus.esp

One handed weapons on back.esp

ATakesAll.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

TamagoBreak.esp

TamagoNews.esp

TamagoShop.esp

TamagoTopic.esp

TamagoConfide.esp

LoversTamagoClub.esp

LoversEncounter.esp

HiyokoGenerator.esp

TamagoSetBody.esp

LoversAphrodisia.esp

LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp

LoversFSE.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp

LoversRaperS.esp

LoversJoburg.esp

Lovers with PK.esp

LoversSpermSplashEx.esp

LoversStripper.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

SetBody.esp

LoversStupidNpc.esp

LoversHooker.esp

Living Economy - Items.esp

Living Economy.esp

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp

x117race.esp

x117Race ENG Race.esp

x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Lop-ears Elf.esp

LoversMB2.esp

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

Now after making this change you are going to need to disable all lovers plugins (esm\esp files) and rebuild your bashed patch.

 

After rebuilding your bashed patch you have two choices:

1. Start a new game - if you go this route then just enable your lovers plugins and start your new game.

 

2. Salvage your existing saved game - if you go this route you need to leave the lover plugins disabled - start the game and load your existing save. Once it loads then give it 1 minute to fully run all scripts and hit the escape key and make a new full manual save. Now exit the game. Enable all your lovers plugins and restart the game and load the full manual save you just made.

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Thank you very much for your time and patience with me and other forum members. Your help is very much appreciated sir. Also I appreciate the quick reply and your time spent helping me resolve the issue.

 

However This hasn't fixed the issue and has introduced some I didn't have before unintentionally. I made sure to follow every step and change my load order to EXACTLY the way you posted it. I also tried making a fresh save to test it wasn't just a issue with the first and still, same problem. It's no big deal honestly, I will get over it even though that effect would make my character look super slutty.

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Ok, I didn't pay enough attention to what you said in post 3.

 

The NPC's coming up to you in sneak mode is what they are supposed to do. I am not aware of any lovers plugins that have a setting for them to start masturbating when you (or two NPC's) have sex.

 

Sorry.

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The problem is that Lovers Joburg or Lovers MB2 isn't causing NPC's to masturbate during PC sex or masturbation. The INI files for both don't seem to have a option to configure that option' date='

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If you have MB2 installed and in the right order (like in gregathit's example) then NPCs who sneak up and/or watch your PC having sex with a Joburg stalker may start masturbating. Some stalkers will also ask if they can masturbate for your PC, or just start doing it.

 

The LoversJoburg.ini has these lines (edit: sorry, this is the old version of Joburg, not the revised):

 

; The probability of transition to stalkers LoversMB2 [%]
set xLoversJoburg.StalkerMBPer to 1.0
; When etch the player, the probability that the actor is moved to the vicinity of such spectators LoversMB2 [%]
set xLoversJoburg.SpectatorMBPer to 10.0

 

I have set these low, those aren't the default values. I think the 2nd one will affect how often spectators start masturbating. Note, AFAIK this is only for Joburg initiated sex. I don't think I ever have NPCs watch and start jerking off when my character has sex caused by other mods.

 

On a side not, all of the NPC's do seem to run up to me in sneak mode and look that's about all though.

 

That's Joburg. It's what some NPCs usually do. I'd play around with the above values in the ini and see if that affects anything.

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Sorry, that's from the original LoversJoburg.ini of the 1.17 version of Joburg, not the revised. I wasn't aware that the ini file had changed in the revised version - I just replaced the .esp file. The original ini is in Japanese characters, which I probably viewed in Notepad++ and ran through Google translator. So, I guess those settings no longer work. :(

 

I used to get spectating NPCs regularly masturbating with Joburg initiated sex. But since putting in the revised version I've kept Joburg settings fairly low so haven't noticed a difference.

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