meme supreme Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Something I've noticed recently is that any item I equip, be it through console or through menus, is technically equipped twice. The equip sound will play twice, and if the armor has HDT, the log will show the XMLs being applied twice. This isn't the case when I unequip something and revert to a naked armor; the body XMLs only load once. hdtPhysicsExtensions [09/23/19 05:17:19]INFO: Queue OK [09/23/19 05:17:19]INFO: System run with 2 threads [09/23/19 05:17:19]INFO: Havok simulated world created. [09/23/19 05:17:19]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor001.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor002.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor003.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor004.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor001.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor002.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor003.xml [09/23/19 05:21:39]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor004.xml [09/23/19 05:23:08]INFO: Cell changed... [09/23/19 05:23:08]INFO: Add character 00000014 [09/23/19 05:24:22]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml [09/23/19 05:24:22]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml [09/23/19 05:24:22]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtFingers.xml [09/23/19 05:24:22]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor001.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor002.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor003.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor004.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor001.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor002.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor003.xml [09/23/19 05:24:24]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor004.xml [09/23/19 05:24:43]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtVagina.xml [09/23/19 05:24:43]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdt.xml [09/23/19 05:24:43]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtFingers.xml [09/23/19 05:24:43]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml This is me spawning in with an HDT armor equipped, unequipping the armor, reequipping it, and unequipping it again. What this shows me is that the double equip thing applies even to armor that is already equipped, as seen by the XMLs being loaded in twice before the cell and my player are loaded in. If I equip items on a NPC, again through console or menu, they only equip it once, and similarly their HDT XMLs are only loaded in once. [09/23/19 05:26:45]INFO: Add character ff002476 [09/23/19 05:27:11]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor001.xml [09/23/19 05:27:11]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor002.xml [09/23/19 05:27:11]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor003.xml [09/23/19 05:27:11]INFO: Physics system loaded : data\Meshes\MLB 0022M\hdtMLB0022MArmor004.xml This is me spawning Serana and consoling the armor onto her. As you can see, the 4 XMLs attached to the armor are only equipped once. Now, this shouldn't really be an issue. The stats get updated properly, and the models also seem to work properly, no duplicated geometry or anything, but there is a unique case with HDT XMLs since they are being loaded twice. If they have any kind of collision, this causes them to freak out and clip into themselves. If they're equipped on a NPC, they will display perfectly fine, since they won't be equipped twice. Here's my load order; Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Vigilant.esm EFFCore.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Supplemental Patch.esp Heels Sound.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm RSChildren.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp Personalized Music - No Vanilla Music v 6.0.esp Dreams & Nightmares (Personalized Music Plugin 6.0).esp SkyUI.esp UIExtensions.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp EFFDialogue.esp RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp Mortal Enemies - SIC.esp Mortal Enemies - SIC DLC2.esp Darkend.esp DawnguardArsenal.esp AddItemMenuLE.esp XPMSE.esp FNIS.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp Skyrim Unbound.esp TimingIsEverything.esp Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp VioLens.esp Mortal Enemies.esp Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp SkyrimSewers.esp HammetDungeons.esp 3DNPC.esp LostGrimoire.esp TKDodge.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp PrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp Unique Uniques.esp UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp Customizable Camera.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp SC_TW3Hairdos.esp TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp personald.esp RLO - Interiors.esp RLO - CRF Patch.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp RLO - Effects.esp Vivid Weathers.esp Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp stocking.esp Arcanum.esp High Level Enemies.esp High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp EFFStandCosMenu.esp [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp Nini Stuff 1.1.esp Nini Stuff 2.0.esp MiniNini.esp Bless Team Tal Complete.esp Dark Souls Item Pack by Team TAL.esp BB Pack by Team TAL.esp DM BDOR Pack by Team TAL.esp MBO Pack by Team TAL.esp MORDHAU Weapon Pack by Team TAL.esp MORDHAU Pack by TEAM TAL.esp DIS_Armor_Fractions.esp Lore Weapon Expansion.esp WeaponsOf3E.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp MikanEyes All in one.esp Immersive Encounters.esp Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp TW3Eyes.esp Cuyima 3DNPC.esp FleshFX.esp YMMP.esp Brows.esp BodyChange.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Valerica.esp Serana.esp RaceMenuPantyhose.esp NewArmoury.esp AnimatedHeavyArmoury.esp personalwepsaa.esp Review Studio.esp PAN_NPCs.esp RaceMenuMorphsSMMB.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp I'm currently using regular HDT PE. I have a few other SKSE plugins but nothing that messes with equip status to my knowledge; CrashFixes, Enhanced Camera, To Your Face, Safety Load + few others. I've been on this setup for 27 hours of gameplay, haven't crashed once, and game runs like smooth little babies, but this is the first time I noticed this after making an armor with HDT on it and putting it on the player. anyways this is really bizarre so I'd appreciate any insight you guys have into it.
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