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Okay, at first i thought it's just the fault of puppetmaster, but now Sexlab Dialogues keeps doing it too, so i'm wondering there's something wrong with my settings.

 

For FF engagements with FM-anims, sexlab keeps putting me in the sub-position, even when i'm clearly the aggressor. And this happens despite my sexlab gender being set to MALE, everything being properly set in genderbender. And me by now having gone through all MCM-settings that COULD affect this at least a dozen times. I'm fucking tired of having to use SL-Tools to fix every single FF-engagement to put me in the dom role and use all available FM-animation.

 

Anyways, here's my current modlist and LO:

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
FISS.esp
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Campfire.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
GenderBender.esm
HentaiPregnancy.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
ScocLB.esm
SkyHUD.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
Move it Dammit - Less Wait Time and Follow Me Closer.esp
Simple AUA.esp
AHZmoreHUD.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
Map Markers Complete.esp
Wavy Waters.esp
Luminosity Lighting Overhaul.esp
maplightfix.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
BetterShapedWeaponsLW-XB.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
kuzak-bodyandstockings.esp
FNIS.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
RaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp
UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS Female Schlongifier (No Schlong Addon by Erundil).esp
SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon (No Balls).esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
FreeHugMod.esp
GoToBed.esp
Animated Eating Redux.esp
Point The Way.esp
Eli_Breezehome.esp
MoreBanditCamps.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
AdventurersAndTravelers.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
3DNPC.esp
Realistic-Voice.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks-3DNPC.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
Killable Children.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
WergildDepreciation.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
notice board.esp
Trade & Barter.esp
Cooking_In_Skyrim.esp
iNeed.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
Skyrim Unbound.esp
Glowing Arrows V3 SSE - The Remaster Edition.esp
SimplyFasterArrows.esp
NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp
PoisoningExtended.esp
The Hunting Game.esp
J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
Weapon AF.esp
ForgivingFriends.esp
Faction_Fixes_Vanilla.esp
VioLens SE.esp
TissHeadTrack.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
noCamColl_2_SE.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SmartNoMoreStupidDog.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
HentaiCreatures.esp
SexLab More Creatures.esp
SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
Animal_SOS.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
TDF_AP_IndHookersPlug_In.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
The Manipulator.esp
PuppetMaster.esp
SexLabStopCombat.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
DW.esp
ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp
Insects Begone - Spiders.esp
Insects Begone - DragonBorn Spiders.esp
Insects Begone - Dawnguard - One Stupid Spider.esp
Insects Begone - Hearthfires.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
SexlabLightMeUp.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp

 

AFAIK the relevant mods setting anim-positions would be:

Sexlab (Currently set to male, tried with with lesbian anims filtered and unfiltered, bi and heterosexual)

Sexlab Aroused (Currently set to use sexlab gender)

Genderbender (Currently set to male)

 

I have about 200 human anims installed from packs. Multiple for each orientation and style. Despite this, Puppetmaster's necro-feature and Sexlab Dialogue's get sexy dialog-options put me in the sub role, and if i open the anim-list with SL-tools, there's just ONE animation listed. I have to switch tags to even see the full list. I just exported my SL-config, did a full clean, saved, reloaded and imported my config again. Still the same nonsense.

 

Any ideas?

 

EDIT: Okay, so this is interesting. If i use the puppetmaster dialog-option, to explicitely define roles, it works properly. Now i'm wondering if this is a setting-problem after all, or if simply BOTH - sexlab dialogs and puppetmasters necro-feature, are bugged in the same way. Maybe those parts of their code just can't handle a female model with a male sexlab gender, and the already described nonsense happens.

 

EDIT2: I reworded the first paragraph to make the problem clearer. I was talking about FF-anims before, which is false: It's about FF-engagements using FM-anims, by setting my sexlab gender to male via Genderbender.

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Sexlab framework doesn't do it. Other mods do it. All of them.

 

When you(your mod) call SL to play animation, you specify 1st actor, 2nd actor and so on. Up to 5.

SL then plays animation for 1st, 2nd, 3rd (and so on) actor. SL doesn't care how those animations look like.

But ... its just happens to be, that pretty much all animations(i think its all) look like 1st actor is "sub" and 2nd is "dom".

 

The one who calls SL framework decides whos "top" and who "bottom".

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Interesting. This would fit with my first edit in the OP. It seems multiple mods just don't respect the sexlab-settings, and think they know better, but then can't make sense of FF-actors with one having a male sexlab gender. I mean, it's pretty clear with the Puppetmaster example: The necro-feature works one way, but the dialog-option another way.

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