Does CK2 have any harem management mod?

[hongzu]

I don't mean mods that simply increase the number of wives and consorts, I wonder if any mod simulate the interaction with the harem.

[hongzu]

When discussing with my friends, we agreed that more wives and consorts could only bring a little satisfaction to the players. Even those R-18 mods can not achieve real harem management, only provide players with some options.

My friends and I feel that more wives and consorts should give players a richer sense of experience about the harem, not some AI that depends on the player's active decision-making to get feedback.

[whateverdontcare]

That sounds like a pretty nice idea actually. I'd like to see it. I could even help with it being made, though I'm no good at the writing that would be necessary, and am not even sure about what exactly it would look like.

[DismissedClaim]

Hrrm. I'm not quite sure about management. But do you mean actual interactions between the player's wives/concubines themselves? Beyond the occasional plots, of course. I'm not sure of any mod that does this, but that would be neat to have some flavor events that involve more than one harem NPC at a time.
I'm trying to think of any events that call upon more than one NPC a time in vanilla. There's the friend event in which the player introduces a friend to another friend and hopes they get along. I recall a choice once where you have to choose to spend more time with your child, or with your wife at church but that doesn't actually involve any form of interaction between the characters. Lastly there's an event that calls for your court physician to treat a sick child (of the player). So, not a lot. (To my knowledge.)

Back to what you're talking about though, I could see someone making events that describe the harems members competing for the player's favor, or fighting amongst themselves. Perhaps an event where the player walks in on them "making up" after a fight, ect.

[hongzu]

5 hours ago, whateverdontcare said:

That sounds like a pretty nice idea actually. I'd like to see it. I could even help with it being made, though I'm no good at the writing that would be necessary, and am not even sure about what exactly it would look like.

It's just an idea, my friends and I are just ordinary players who can modify some basic TXT files, not modder.

5 hours ago, DismissedClaim said:

Hrrm. I'm not quite sure about management. But do you mean actual interactions between the player's wives/concubines themselves? Beyond the occasional plots, of course. I'm not sure of any mod that does this, but that would be neat to have some flavor events that involve more than one harem NPC at a time.
I'm trying to think of any events that call upon more than one NPC a time in vanilla. There's the friend event in which the player introduces a friend to another friend and hopes they get along. I recall a choice once where you have to choose to spend more time with your child, or with your wife at church but that doesn't actually involve any form of interaction between the characters. Lastly there's an event that calls for your court physician to treat a sick child (of the player). So, not a lot. (To my knowledge.)

Back to what you're talking about though, I could see someone making events that describe the harems members competing for the player's favor, or fighting amongst themselves. Perhaps an event where the player walks in on them "making up" after a fight, ect.

The topic of our discussion is what can give harem hobbyists a good sense of experience. 

Our discussion came from network novels and adult fiction, we were trying to find out how these novel's harem elements attract readers. Then we started to discuss a Three Kingdoms mod made by Chinese modder: As fans of harem, we cared about the legendary women in the Three Kingdoms Period. But in fact, even if we succeed in turning them all into our own harem members, our sense of accomplishment hadn't lasted long. We found it very boring that these legendary women had become indistinguishable from random NPCs in the harem. If we create an NPC with the same name, there's no difference between them. 

Then we started to talk about why, we summed up several reasons: 

1. Few harem members have feedback that meets the player's expectations, this makes it seem that we have a collection of dolls. 

I think this mod does a good job, if you turn your lover into a follower, they will try to talk to you and woo you, and have feedback beyond the original NPC on environments and events. Although not much, it makes lovers more vivid. 

2. There is almost no difference between harem members. Character elements are an important part, any work with the elements of the harem will prevent the creation of identical roles. Generally speaking, different roles of CK2 have different traits, but this has no effect on the experience of harem.

3. Adult content. Adult content is a big attraction in the harem, see how popular FFM videos are on PornHub. Even in novels, it used to be the most attractive place for readers. But apparently, from the point of view of the existing R-18 mod, players can not really experience the "interaction" with the members of their harem. 

[Ensirath]

8 hours ago, hongzu said:

I don't mean mods that simply increase the number of wives and consorts, I wonder if any mod simulate the interaction with the harem.

 

8 hours ago, whateverdontcare said:

That sounds like a pretty nice idea actually. I'd like to see it. I could even help with it being made, though I'm no good at the writing that would be necessary, and am not even sure about what exactly it would look like.

 

8 hours ago, DismissedClaim said:

Hrrm. I'm not quite sure about management. But do you mean actual interactions between the player's wives/concubines themselves? Beyond the occasional plots, of course. I'm not sure of any mod that does this, but that would be neat to have some flavor events that involve more than one harem NPC at a time.
I'm trying to think of any events that call upon more than one NPC a time in vanilla. There's the friend event in which the player introduces a friend to another friend and hopes they get along. I recall a choice once where you have to choose to spend more time with your child, or with your wife at church but that doesn't actually involve any form of interaction between the characters. Lastly there's an event that calls for your court physician to treat a sick child (of the player). So, not a lot. (To my knowledge.)

Back to what you're talking about though, I could see someone making events that describe the harems members competing for the player's favor, or fighting amongst themselves. Perhaps an event where the player walks in on them "making up" after a fight, ect.

There is actually a mod that does something like that. The old Consort submod for CK2+ adds events and interactions between wives and concubines. It could act as a good baseline to expand upon.

 

Here is the link to it, download the file and take a look. The six year old download link still works (tried it myself). The changelog is below: 

 

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/consort-mod-for-ck2.705819/#post-15883589

 

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v1.01
-Added two new events for a wife unhappy with husband and concubines
-Changed some triggers to be more logical (i.e. wives who have lovers will not be distressed at husband's lack of attention)
v1.00
-Tweaking of lover_events so that a concubine in love with her ruler is no longer interpreted as an illegitimate mistress. Generally speaking, this prevents some events from firing in said circumstance, and mitigates or eliminates negative reactions to the ruler's lover.
-Added concubine file for events, adding 33 events of varying size and several event chains concerning concubines. While changes to the lover events file tend to reduce the negative effects of spurning monogamy, the new events tend to have less common but more negative repercussions of strained relations between wives and concubines.

 

It features a bunch of events such as;

- concubine falls in love with master and vice versa 

- concubine asks to marry her unmarried master

- Positive event between master and concubine with various benefits 

- wife gets jealous of lover-concubine and gets an event on what to do

- wife asks husband to put lover-concubine aside 

- wife gets jealous of concubines and confronts husband 

- Husband falls out of love with concubine and into love with wife

- wife is annoyed a concubine's son is ahead of her son in the succession and ask husband to grant him land 

- wife plots to kill concubine

- concubine plots to kill wife

- forced concubine tries to run away

 

I attached the relevant files here but I recommend downloading it yourself if you want to update the mod and get it working standalone. Unsure about getting permission since its six years old and the modder could be inactive. 

concubine.txt consort1.csv

[hongzu]

On 6/18/2019 at 7:09 PM, Ensirath said:

 

 

There is actually a mod that does something like that. The old Consort submod for CK2+ adds events and interactions between wives and concubines. It could act as a good baseline to expand upon.

 

Here is the link to it, download the file and take a look. The six year old download link still works (tried it myself). The changelog is below: 

 

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/consort-mod-for-ck2.705819/#post-15883589

 

 

It features a bunch of events such as;

- concubine falls in love with master and vice versa 

- concubine asks to marry her unmarried master

- Positive event between master and concubine with various benefits 

- wife gets jealous of lover-concubine and gets an event on what to do

- wife asks husband to put lover-concubine aside 

- wife gets jealous of concubines and confronts husband 

- Husband falls out of love with concubine and into love with wife

- wife is annoyed a concubine's son is ahead of her son in the succession and ask husband to grant him land 

- wife plots to kill concubine

- concubine plots to kill wife

- forced concubine tries to run away

 

I attached the relevant files here but I recommend downloading it yourself if you want to update the mod and get it working standalone. Unsure about getting permission since its six years old and the modder could be inactive. 

concubine.txt 38.99 kB · 4 downloads consort1.csv 8.26 kB · 4 downloads

Thank you, but I don't think that seems to be what I want.