HeatTheSol Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 So. I've spent some time tweaking around load orders and cutting out some useless (outdated) .esp files for an hour. But alas, I'm stumped. First and foremost I'm using Lovers PK ver 96 When I use setbody to change my PC's body futa no longer works for her. I've noticed this from a couple other NPCs (Preggo girl captured in PlayerSlave encounters by goblins. Joburg enabled her to attack PC but she was humping with clit only.) I originally fixed this by switching on to unequip non equipabble gear and it worked out for PC (futa revived). Was wondering if there is any other way to properly fix this. Now. I've seen a couple of posts with issues regarding NPCs not undressing during sex. I have made sure to select "Remove" for all options in the undressing settings. No success. PC disrobes. NPCs no dice. I have a previous thread on my load order but i'll put it here again. • 00 Oblivion.esm • 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm • 02 x117race.esm • 03 CM Partners.esm • 04 Hair Master.esm • 05 underdark.esm • 06 cssBase.esm • 07 HorseCombatMaster.esm • 08 BreakUndies.esm • 09 IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm • 0A All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] • 0B Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2] • 0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1] • 0D UOPS Additional Changes.esp • 0E StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp • 0F DLCShiveringIsles.esp • ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp • 10 Knights.esp • 11 DLCfrostcrag.esp • 12 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp • 13 DLCHorseArmor.esp • 14 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp • 15 DLCSpellTomes.esp • 16 DLCOrrery.esp • 17 DLCThievesDen.esp • 18 DLCVileLair.esp • 19 Aliyah.esp • 1A DAFeria.esp • 1B DANecsKarla.esp [Version 1.0] • 1C DARaewyn.esp • 1D CM Partners.esp • 1E Synx.esp • 1F DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp • 20 Charming Deception.esp • 21 Nec-Character_Sonnet_Mature.esp [Version 1.0] • 22 CM Partner Franziska.esp • 23 CM Partner Destara.esp • 24 CM Partner Sandra.esp • 25 CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp • 26 CMPartner_Xenia.esp • 27 CM Partner Isabell.esp • 28 CM Pym.esp • 29 CM Partner Sheela.esp • 2A CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp • 2B CM Partners NPC NE.esp • 2C CM Partners Friska.esp • 2D 1stAlchemistCompanionGirl.esp • 2E Companion Neeshka.esp • 2F ComVeronia.esp • 30 Viconia.esp • 31 ViconiaChapterTwo.esp • 32 zzEstrus.esp • 33 Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp • 34 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp • 35 LittleCarmine.esp • 36 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] • 37 FuroGeneratorTrap.esp • 38 Abriael_Human.esp • 39 Companion_Ab_Human_3.esp • 3A Saerileth.esp • 3B Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part A.esp • 3C Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part B.esp • 3D Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part C.esp • 3E Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part E.esp • 3F Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part D.esp • 40 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 1.esp • 41 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 2.esp • 42 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 3.esp • 43 GG_Valeria_Revived.esp • 44 Companion_Ab_Human.esp • 45 Hentai Mania.esp • 46 SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp • 47 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp • 48 DMwardropemerged.esp • 49 Console King Catalog v01.esp • 4A UnderdarkMap.esp • 4B Vampiria.esp • 4C yangyang_frostbite.esp • 4D Schwertleite Armor BU.esp • 4E ff13_fang.esp • 4F LadyFantasyBBBHVer.esp • 50 aion_rose.esp • 51 tera_crf16.esp • 52 LadyDeath.esp • 53 Lady Apella.esp • 54 Ves Armor plus Recolours.esp • 55 GhostArmor.esp • 56 tera_hfh07.esp • 57 Ayame Kunoichi.esp • 58 AC2Gear_HGEC.esp • 59 tera_chf16.esp • 5A Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp • 5B ArcaneWarrior.esp • 5C Magicka Regen x2.esp • ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp • ++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp • 5D Kaleencolors.esp • 5E IDKRRR_C_race.esp • 5F LevelerCheat.esp • 60 Midas Cheat.esp • 61 MidasSpells.esp • 62 MidasMagicCompanions.esp • 63 MMC_DarkZoe.esp • 64 DRSplatter.esp • 65 AncientTowers.esp • 66 Naughty_Joana_01.esp • 67 Tamara.esp • 68 Vaernlor Manor.esp • 69 HentaiLovelyHouse.esp • 6A AleswellHomeQuest.esp • 6B SilverfishRiverCabin.esp • 6C Castle_Seaview.esp • 6D Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp • 6E Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp • 6F Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp • 70 Alandria.esp • ++ Symphony of Violence.esp • 71 cssImoen.esp [Version 1.0] • 72 Colourwheels Sexy Dark brotherhood.esp • 73 Colourwheels Sexy Tifa.esp • 74 X.Races.Comp.esp • 75 x117race.esp • ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp • 76 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp • 77 Lop-ears Elf.esp • 78 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp • 79 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp • ++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp • 7A cssMazzy.esp [Version 1.0] • 7B cssSafana.esp [Version 1.0] • 7C cssCalisto.esp [Version 1.0] • 7D cssJaheira.esp [Version 1.0] • 7E cssNalia.esp [Version 1.0] • 7F Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] • 80 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] • 81 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] • 82 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] • 83 TRoN.esp • 84 CFHCompanions.esp • 85 StokerWolff.esp • 86 Trade and Commerce.esp • 87 SetBody.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp • ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp • 88 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp • 89 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp • 8A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp • ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp Will have to suck it up till then. Thanks for reading. -Sol
gregathit Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Please post your full load order and not a partial list. I can't see any lovers esp files so I don't know how to help you. You can get a load order without all the double spacing by right clicking on any of the column headings and selecting "list mods". Much easier for us to read. Once we get you working, you need to think about using Tes4gecko to combine some of your small armor and clothing mods to cut down the size of your load order.
HeatTheSol Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Please post your full load order and not a partial list. I can't see any lovers esp files so I don't know how to help you. You can get a load order without all the double spacing by right clicking on any of the column headings and selecting "list mods". Much easier for us to read. Once we get you working' date=' you need to think about using Tes4gecko to combine some of your small armor and clothing mods to cut down the size of your load order. [/quote'] Hey Good Morning! TE4Gecko looks like a handy utility. Thanks for reading my mind about what to do with all these clothing ESP. I like options. I did not know that about Wyre Bash. That's very handy! For the longest time i've been using the list out of the bashed patch report since I was not sure how else to display the load order. Without further ado: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Lovers with PK.esm 04 TamagoClub.esm 05 HiyokoClub.esm 06 LoversCreature.esm 07 Chanpon.esm 08 CM Partners.esm 09 Hair Master.esm 0A underdark.esm 0B cssBase.esm 0C HorseCombatMaster.esm 0D BreakUndies.esm 0E IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm 0F All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34] 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.2] 11 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.1] 12 UOPS Additional Changes.esp 13 StockClothingArmorHGECFighterD.esp 14 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 15 Knights.esp 16 DLCfrostcrag.esp 17 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 18 DLCHorseArmor.esp 19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1A DLCSpellTomes.esp 1B DLCOrrery.esp 1C DLCThievesDen.esp 1D DLCVileLair.esp 1E Aliyah.esp 1F DAFeria.esp 20 DANecsKarla.esp [Version 1.0] 21 DARaewyn.esp 22 CM Partners.esp 23 Synx.esp 24 DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp 25 Charming Deception.esp 26 Nec-Character_Sonnet_Mature.esp [Version 1.0] 27 CM Partner Franziska.esp 28 CM Partner Destara.esp 29 CM Partner Sandra.esp 2A CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp 2B CMPartner_Xenia.esp 2C CM Partner Isabell.esp 2D CM Pym.esp 2E CM Partner Sheela.esp 2F CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp 30 CM Partners NPC NE.esp 31 CM Partners Friska.esp 32 1stAlchemistCompanionGirl.esp 33 Companion Neeshka.esp 34 ComVeronia.esp 35 Viconia.esp 36 ViconiaChapterTwo.esp 37 zzEstrus.esp 38 Ice Elves and Wolf Elves.esp 39 _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp 3A LittleCarmine.esp 3B 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] 3C FuroGeneratorTrap.esp 3D Abriael_Human.esp 3E Companion_Ab_Human_3.esp 3F Saerileth.esp 40 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part A.esp 41 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part B.esp 42 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part C.esp 43 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part E.esp 44 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Part D.esp 45 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 1.esp 46 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 2.esp 47 Blademan's New Birthsigns - Addition 3.esp 48 GG_Valeria_Revived.esp 49 Companion_Ab_Human.esp 4A Hentai Mania.esp 4B SnowAndHarukoCMPartners.esp 4C Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 4D DMwardropemerged.esp 4E Console King Catalog v01.esp 4F UnderdarkMap.esp 50 Vampiria.esp 51 yangyang_frostbite.esp 52 Schwertleite Armor BU.esp 53 ff13_fang.esp 54 LadyFantasyBBBHVer.esp 55 aion_rose.esp 56 tera_crf16.esp 57 LadyDeath.esp 58 Lady Apella.esp 59 Ves Armor plus Recolours.esp 5A GhostArmor.esp 5B tera_hfh07.esp 5C Ayame Kunoichi.esp 5D AC2Gear_HGEC.esp 5E tera_chf16.esp 5F Ryk_SorceressArmor.esp 60 ArcaneWarrior.esp 61 Magicka Regen x2.esp ++ 77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp ++ Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp 62 Kaleencolors.esp 63 IDKRRR_C_race.esp 64 LevelerCheat.esp 65 Midas Cheat.esp 66 MidasSpells.esp 67 MidasMagicCompanions.esp 68 MMC_DarkZoe.esp 69 DRSplatter.esp 6A AncientTowers.esp 6B Naughty_Joana_01.esp 6C Tamara.esp 6D Vaernlor Manor.esp 6E HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 6F AleswellHomeQuest.esp 70 SilverfishRiverCabin.esp 71 Castle_Seaview.esp 72 Colourwheels Sexy Tavern HGEC.esp 73 Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp 74 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp 75 Alandria.esp ++ Symphony of Violence.esp 76 cssImoen.esp [Version 1.0] 77 Colourwheels Sexy Dark brotherhood.esp 78 Colourwheels Sexy Tifa.esp 79 X.Races.Comp.esp 7A x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 7B DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 7C Lop-ears Elf.esp 7D Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp 7E DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp ++ Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp 7F cssMazzy.esp [Version 1.0] 80 cssSafana.esp [Version 1.0] 81 cssCalisto.esp [Version 1.0] 82 cssJaheira.esp [Version 1.0] 83 cssNalia.esp [Version 1.0] 84 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1] ** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.34] 85 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.34] 86 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.34] 87 All Natural.esp [Version 1.34] 88 TRoN.esp 89 CFHCompanions.esp 8A StokerWolff.esp 8B Trade and Commerce.esp 8C TamagoBreak.esp 8D TamagoNews.esp 8E TamagoShop.esp 8F TamagoTopic.esp 90 TamagoBadEnd.esp 91 TamagoSetBody.esp 92 TamagoConfide.esp 93 HiyokoGenerator.esp 94 LoversEncounter.esp 95 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 96 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 97 LoversRaperS.esp 98 LoversJoburg.esp 99 LoversBed.esp 9A LoversPower.esp 9B LoversContraception.esp 9C Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 9D LoversBitch.esp 9E LoversCreature.esp 9F Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] A0 LoversStopCombatEx.esp A1 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp A2 LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp A3 LoversRapeSlave.esp A4 LoversAdultYield.esp A5 LoversMagic.esp A6 LoversSlaveTrader.esp A7 LSTBravilUnderground.esp A8 LoversImmoralGuards.esp A9 LoversGGBlackmail.esp AA LoversTamagoClub.esp AB LoversBackup2.esp AC LoversTachiCat2.esp AD LoversSoundVolumeDown.esp AE PlayerSlaveEncounters_v0.56.esp AF SetBody.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp B0 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp B1 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp B2 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp B3 Bashed Patch, 0.esp B4 LoversMB2.esp B5 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp B6 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
gregathit Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 LoversTamagoClub.esp <---this should be up with the rest of the tamago club plugins. You have quite a few plugins going on there. While some may work together, they may cause a few complications now and again. I am not sure how well Player slave encounters will work with bravil underground. Not sure how well pk extender will work with player slave encounters either. There is a sample load order in the spoiler here for lovers plugins: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 As to your undressing problem, is it during rapes or consensual sex? Is it all clothes or just some in particular? Did you toggle the remove non playable equipment button in the sexual exploits spell?
HeatTheSol Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 LoversTamagoClub.esp <---this should be up with the rest of the tamago club plugins. You have quite a few plugins going on there. While some may work together' date=' they may cause a few complications now and again. I am not sure how well Player slave encounters will work with bravil underground. Not sure how well pk extender will work with player slave encounters either. There is a sample load order in the spoiler here for lovers plugins: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=6133 As to your undressing problem, is it during rapes or consensual sex? Is it all clothes or just some in particular? Did you toggle the remove non playable equipment button in the sexual exploits spell? [/quote'] Disabled Player Slave Encounters and tested on a clean save. Same result. During rape and consensual sex. What I noticed is that the NPC undresses just for a split second and then redresses or not at all. Also when enslaving an NPC for the first time the npc is not chained. And walks around as if nothing happened. Still enslaved. I did toggle that button as far as the setbody issue goes before posting. I wanted to be sure that I won't expect any other problems down the road with other mods due to the warning that pops up once you switch it on. So, long story short one of those mods i'm running is overriding undressing procedures. Worst case scenario is just to wipe everything and apply my backup folder and test a few mods at a time.
gregathit Posted December 23, 2012 Posted December 23, 2012 Ok, who is the NPC? Is it a CM partner? If so then what you are experiencing is the CM partner script rebooting their inventory. Try things with a vanilla NPC. If it is a vanilla NPC then give me their name. Reinstalling is probably not the best idea. Instead, just disable all your plugins except the Oblivion.esm, your official DLC, the UOP patches, setbody and your race mods - MBP and all the rest (leave CM partners OFF as well as your bashed patch). Now start a new game and save after leaving the sewers (or if you are using an alternate start plugin then right after you have chosen your options and are ready to start playing). Make a note of this save game (use a manual save for this). Now exit the game and add in your lovers plugins. See if you can get them strip (you will have to reset your strip options). If they strip fine then start adding back in your other plugins until they stop stripping and then you will know what is breaking things.
HeatTheSol Posted December 23, 2012 Author Posted December 23, 2012 Ok' date=' who is the NPC? Is it a CM partner? If so then what you are experiencing is the CM partner script rebooting their inventory. Try things with a vanilla NPC. If it is a vanilla NPC then give me their name. Reinstalling is probably not the best idea. Instead, just disable all your plugins except the Oblivion.esm, your official DLC, the UOP patches, setbody and your race mods - MBP and all the rest (leave CM partners OFF as well as your bashed patch). Now start a new game and save after leaving the sewers (or if you are using an alternate start plugin then right after you have chosen your options and are ready to start playing). Make a note of this save game (use a manual save for this). Now exit the game and add in your lovers plugins. See if you can get them strip (you will have to reset your strip options). If they strip fine then start adding back in your other plugins until they stop stripping and then you will know what is breaking things. [/quote'] Yo! You're dead on about the CM partner. That rebooting would explain the brief flash of nudity and then re-equipping. Did some digging and CM partners can cause conflicts with some mods. Tested out different essential npcs male and female as well as some generic mage scholars. No success. So I did the second thing which I liked to call "Warp back to Zero" Or rather, starting over with the race mods and then add lovers as you described. Progress! I have just finished testing with the lovers mods and I haven't had any real problems. Setbody works now with futa so I don't have to toggle the switch. Clothes are coming off as they should be. Looking good. Will post again once I find out what exactly has shut down the undressing procedures with NPCs. I'll review the manual on merging mods with TE4Gecko. Definitely would like to shave down the load order list myself. -High Five- -Sol
gregathit Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 If CM partners gives you fits then I recommend you switch to MCS for companions (Mad Companionship Spells). MCS works great with lovers. Link: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2601 You can also grab From2ch Lives to replace the CM partner plugins that add a bunch of NPC's to the game world. From2ch lives will had upwards of 300+ NPC's to the game. Link: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2596
HeatTheSol Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 If CM partners gives you fits then I recommend you switch to MCS for companions (Mad Companionship Spells). MCS works great with lovers. Link: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2601 You can also grab From2ch Lives to replace the CM partner plugins that add a bunch of NPC's to the game world. From2ch lives will had upwards of 300+ NPC's to the game. Link: http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=2596 Well now. Looks like the biggest cause of my woes was zzEstrus.esp. That ONE file has caused problems for all of the in-game malfunctions. Bravo. The strange thing was that it wasn't really at the bottom of the load order and it definitely was on top of Lovers. But, whatevs. Looks like case is closed. I tested all the other mods and they've worked fine. I didn't even have to toggle the non-playable equipment button. What estrus has done was cause most of the female npcs to cover up themselves upon nudity. For some reason during sex it just caused the script (maybe) in Estrus to override most nudity behaviors in Lovers. It also has caused problems with animation alignment (Really bad in Bravil Underground. Twas Tuhr-rible/terrible) CM partners hasn't caused any issues. Deadly reflexes worked fine too. I haven't enabled the clothing mods yet but I don't think I'll have a problem with them. I'll check out the other Companion mods as a good alternate to have just in case I get tired of CM partners. So far so good. This was fun (of course troubleshooting comes with keyboard bashing and lots of red bull). Thanks for working with me Greg. And now...The free throw shot into the recycle bin... -Sol
gregathit Posted December 24, 2012 Posted December 24, 2012 You can install version 14.2 of Estrus and it will work flawlessly with Lovers. That is the version I use.
HeatTheSol Posted December 24, 2012 Author Posted December 24, 2012 Alrighty. Will plugin to that and give er a shot. Smashing tech support Grandmaster Greg. Loving the options and appreciate the prompt responses and help. Learned a lot within a matter of a day! -Sol
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