Vampire NPC, face color mismatch, imposible to fix in CK

[chinpoppo]

hello, i notice htat one vampire NPC, has a horrible face - color problem i already using NormalVampireFaces.esp

but don't fix this current NPC, i right now try fix npc face in a CK, 0 result, yes, face changes, hair style e.t.c. but, not "color" problem, i search and install all posible mods, what change fave, but..... nothing help, this npc ID - 020176f9 (DLC1EncVampire00NordF)

 

How it's look like →

 

 

And yes, i ofcource, turn off all plugins what change npc face - didn't help ><;;

and ofcource, tunr off ALL addons, result the same T_T

 

Not sure if this answer on anything, but i also tunr on debug log →

 

 

 

[12/08/2012 - 10:55:48PM] EditorPapyrus log opened (PC)
[12/08/2012 - 10:55:48PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:02PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1_npcmentalmodelscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:02PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1_NPCMentalModel_01002B6E", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "FerrySystemScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ08QuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ08_01007C25", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ01RNPCQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1vq03rnpcquestscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ03RNPC_0100F363", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ04RNPC_01016673", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ04RNPCQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1HunterBaseIntro_01004E24", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1HunterBaseIntroQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ05RNPC_010176C2", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ05RNPCQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1defaultDetectPresenceTriggerScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ05_01002850", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1vq05questscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ08PostQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ08Post_0101A1C1", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1Radiant_01004C1C", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1radiantscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1OneToManyFactionRelationScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1WerewolfPerkExplanationQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQDragonScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQDragon_0100C73A", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VQ02RNPC_01015AA7", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1VQ02RNPCQuestScript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1RNPCPlaySceneAfterInterval", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1_bf_duntempleqstscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1_BF_DunTempleQST_01006BDA", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1vampirebaseintroquestscript", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 10:57:13PM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1_QF_DLC1VampireBaseIntro_0100594C", missing file?
[12/08/2012 - 11:00:51PM] Log closed

 

 

 

If any one have ANY idea, please share it. I try.

[Ark of Truth]

Set FaceGenTexturing in the Skyrim.ini to 0

[smudge78]

Set FaceGenTexturing in the Skyrim.ini to 0

 

What exactly will that do?

[chupa]

Well there is not really much to post...

If activated, the "Tone" changes in the ini file does actually "do" something, but if deactivated, ALL characters get the standard tone.

[chinpoppo]

Set FaceGenTexturing in the Skyrim.ini to 0

I don't have this in my skyrim ini, under what category i must add this line ?

 

i have only bUseMultiThreadedFaceGen=1

[Ark of Truth]

You need to go to:

 

My Documents\My Games\Skyrim\SkyrimPref.ini

 

and add the line following line:

 

bFaceGenTexturing=0

 

to the end of the general section, which is the first section of the SkyrimPref.ini

[chinpoppo]

THnak YOu, i understand, but same, didn't help.

 

I forgot, when i change this npc race in CK, body do not change, only head. probable some kind of "glitch" with this current npc. i must delete this npc. seems like, it's only one solution.

[Ark of Truth]

The body should of changed as well. Honestly it's not a glitch but something your doing wrong.

 

Post your load order and we will take a look, this problem can also happen due to load order.

[Ark of Truth]

Don't be an jerk speedynl, trolling the thread is not a wise idea when someone is asking for help.

[Ark of Truth]

Well wouldn't it of been more practical to explain that considering the user most likely doesn't know what to do? Just typing ctrl + f4 doesn't really explain anything and if you have forgotten it also means close current program, result in me misunderstanding what you were posting considering you only put a key combo.

 

You don't even need to do that it order to fix the head. The issue has only happened because the OP has installed a bunch of conflicting mods after manually trying to fix a issue which didn't even need fixing in the Construction Kit, hence we need to see the load order.

 

ctrl + f4 will most likely not do anything now anyway considering graphics mods are now being used.

[chinpoppo]

I edited, many npc, and i know what i'm doing.

if you simple press "ctrl +f4" your npc will have red or black or any other color shit on a head. sou, i edite npc with hands, and after check all fine, i save new facegen data.

i only yasterday change all khajit npc, because install new race mod. what change this current type. and everything fine.

 

>The body should of changed as well.

 

yes, ofcource, this is why i made this topic, i'm sure i did something iwth mods, and one mod now conflicting ><;;;

 

 

my load order ?

 

here it is →

 

 



 

 

 

Aa, it's kind offtopic, but i notice when i try "pick up" something, like bugs e.t.c. "E" button not work current, only after some time i can pick up this "bug" same with shouts power, i think i must change my Papyrus

probable too many scripts, maybe htey cause this vampire npc problem too.

now my papyrus look like -

[Papyrus]
fUpdateBudgetMS=800
fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2000
iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192
iMinMemoryPageSize=8192
bEnableProfiling=0

[roy12]

it also means close current program

 

That's alt+f4...

[Ark of Truth]

it also means close current program

 

That's alt+f4...

 

Nope ctrl + f4 does it too.

[chinpoppo]

alt+f4 in CK, close window. not actualy exsit program, for exsit you must pres it two time.

 

>> Ark of Truth

what about my load order ? ><;;

[Ark of Truth]

Post your load order please

[chinpoppo]

You probable didn't saw - >

 

http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=14101&pid=292212#pid292212

 

I posted already ^^;;

 

this topic post #14

[Ark of Truth]

Yeah that is not going to help us as it does not show your load order clearly enough.

 

Do this to get it correctly.

 

To get your load order with Wyre Smash (Skyrim): Just right click anyway in the middle section of the program, select list mods, a new window will open, copy it and paste it here.

[ThatGuyJonus]

Ok to help clarify this issue there are two main mods that will does this XCES or xenius Scars Version 1.1 not 1.0, and ASIS can as well but its sporadic at best. Any mod that modifies the dawngaurd vampire Race will cause this issue.

 

And chinpopo your getting funky crap on the face textures due to one of two reasons or both.

1. You have mipmaps enabled on tint masks, such as eye socket shades, lips eye liner, eye shadows, etc.

2. You have improper resolution textures in these same parts.

[chinpoppo]

hmm, I think i install some vampire face update.... http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/21839 probable this, not sure on a 100%

i don't know about mini maps, not sure if say true. here pretty much all mods what i use ->

 

 

 

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  HearthFires.esm
04  SkyMoMod.esm
05  SPIKE.esm
06  JSwords.esm
07  MiniLovers Idles.esm
08  MiniLoversSound.esm
09  ApachiiHair.esm
0A  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
0B  RaceCompatibility.esm
0C  xlv.esm
0D  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
0E  NMFWLM_dawnguard.esp
0F  NMFWLM_vanilla.esp
10  NMFWLM_hearthfire.esp
11  DW Commoners.esp
12  DW Enemies and Wanderers.esp
13  ColorfulLightsNoShadows.esp
14  skymo-dawn.esp
15  ZazResources.esp
16  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
17  Andragorn_Weapons.esp
18  Explosive Arrows.esp
19  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
1A  JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
1B  Remodeled Armor.esp
1C  Siege Bow & Backpacks.esp
1D  Dr_Bandolier.esp
++  PISE-Increased Level Scales.esp
++  PISE-Increased Spawns Only.esp
1E  PISE-Encounter Zones Only.esp
1F  PISE-AI Tweaks Only.esp
20  DeadlyDragons.esp
21  DeadlyDragons_Addon.esp
22  zzALittleSexyApparelReplacer_nobra.esp
23  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
24  Immersive Weapons.esp
++  RichMerchants.esp
25  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
++  Skyrim Unlimited Rings and Amulets RU.esp
26  xvisionchildren.esp
27  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
28  Predator Vision.esp
29  ASX_Spells.esp
2A  conjure_chest.esp
2B  FNISspells.esp
2C  MiniLovers.esp
2D  MiniLoversSoundSpell.esp
2E  MiniLoversAlternative.esp
2F  ASX_Potions.esp
30  The Dance of Death.esp
31  ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp
32  ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp
33  MorePP.esp
34  N_43 Hair Pack.esp
35  dagi_raht_race.esp
36  UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
37  UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
38  UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
39  UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp
3A  EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp
3B  khajiit_replacer.esp
3C  NormalVampireFaces.esp
3D  Bashed Patch, 1.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: WVS.esp
3E  Automatic Variants.esp
3F  WVS.esp
40  Orc&ElfFix4TBBP.esp
41  xlv_test.esp
42  xlv_spell.esp
43  CharacterFix.esp
44  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

 

 

forgot, ASIS i not use, it's a VERY glitch mod, what can destroy game, i once try, and delete it.

[ThatGuyJonus]

Not sure what body mod you use, but I use cbb 3.2 and xce caused all kinds of wierd seams for me, I switched to the official cbb face textures to solve it for me, but the vampires will look substantially different. Also never had an issue with asis, but if you don't exclude certain mods properly it will cause problems.

 

As for the issue involving mip maps its dependent of face textures, and also programs like the ordinator or DDSOpt that optimize textures.

[chinpoppo]

i use CBBE + Fair Skin Complexion (only ONE mod, with what i don't have small color mismatch with regular NPC)

 

Hmm, i now try cbbe face textures...not sure if it's helps, but.. can you spawn this current npc ?

020176f9 her ID, nad tell me you don't have problem like my ?

 

ASIS + Automatic Variants = 死ｗ

 

oh yes, i use Optimizer Texures. but... sice with any NPC i don't have this problem, only vampires.

PLus, like a write before, i can't change her "body" in CK, it's quit weird...

[ThatGuyJonus]

the optimizer will only cause issues when you try to export a facemap after its been done. It took me forever to figure it out, but now i just reinstall the face pack for cbbe and them make my npc changes then run the optimizer again. FOr whatever reason the mipmaps or the optimizer are doing something to the tint maps that makes the CK choke on export, causing the weird face striping and what not.

[chinpoppo]

Hm, if this was caused by a optimizer, i'v had the same problem on all vampire NPC, but, it's not, plus.. hm...

if so, i think, i'v probable have power to "change" npc racei n CK ? because, like i told before, main thing, what worry me -

I can't change "body" of this npc, yes, head i can change (not color) but, it's any way use nord body T_T

[lampuiho]

Not sure what body mod you use' date=' but I use cbb 3.2 and xce caused all kinds of wierd seams for me, I switched to the official cbb face textures to solve it for me, but the vampires will look substantially different. Also never had an issue with asis, but if you don't exclude certain mods properly it will cause problems.

 

As for the issue involving mip maps its dependent of face textures, and also programs like the ordinator or DDSOpt that optimize textures.

[/quote']

The colour tone of Imperial vampire does not get applied to the face in the original game. I guess Bethesda forgot about modifying the chargen file.

[chinpoppo]

seems like topic become dead ヾ(●｀ω´●)ﾉﾞ

 

But, i "kind" fix this problem it's take about 5h, i re-made every vampire FPS, in CK, but i didn't made new eps, and i didn't just add new face gen, i editen DW enemy ESP, i once had problem with this eps,

sou, i change vmapire nps to a non vampire npc, and add some "gothic" look, sou they pretty much looking like vampire, when i see any of "my" edited npc i made screen shoot, i didn't made when i spawn em, don't want re-spawn, i hate vampires already T_T;;

 

 

but, it's not actual problem fix. it's jsut alternative.

 

Maybe some one have more ideas ? i use enchanted character edition too. not sure, but can thios cause problem?

 

(*´・ω・) stupid skyrim.... i hate it.

 

how easy was play in a 2011, when game jsut out .. no mods... not problem....