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Like the title says. I'm doing something wrong but Idk what. After installing sexlab and few extras for that and running FNIS, bodyslide for armors and stuff, SKSE won't load the game. Crashes almost instantly when the black box pops up. 

First I thought it was about FNIS animation limit so I disabled Billyy's SLAL animations and now it's around 6k according to FNIS. (no errors there either) The most animations I've had with the game working was almost 12k. (but that was ages ago).

Still won't start. 

 

Load order below. 

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  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
  6  6     RSkyrimChildren.esm
  7  7     Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
  8  8     ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9     ApachiiHairMales.esm
 10  a     Unique Flowers & Plants.esm
 11  b     Campfire.esm
 12  c     Falskaar.esm
 13  d     FlowerGirls SE.esm
 14  e     CreatureFramework.esm
 15  f     SexLab.esm
 16 10     SexLabAroused.esm
 17 11     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 18 12     FlowerGirls SE - BDSM.esm
 19 13     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 20 14     Immersive Wenches.esp
 21 15     SkyUI_SE.esp
 22 16     Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
 23 17     Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
 24 18     Cathedral Concept - Lightweight Grass Overhaul.esp
 25 19     Cutting Room Floor.esp
 26 1a     SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
 27 1b     RaceMenu.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 29 1d     Beards.esp
 30 1e     Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
 31 1f     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
 32 20     Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
 33 21     DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp
 34 22     Intelligent W3 Music Addon.esp
 35 23     Optional Less Combat Music.esp
 36 24     XPMSE.esp
 37 25     dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
 38 26     Cathedral Concept - Lightweight Water Overhaul (LF).esp
 39 27     AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
 40 28     iNeed.esp
 41 29     iNeed - Extended.esp
 42 2a     JKs Skyrim.esp
 43 2b     RLO - Interiors.esp
 44 2c     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 45 2d     SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
 46 2e     TrueStormsSE.esp
 47 2f     Obsidian Weathers.esp
 48 30     ZaForswornStory.esp
 49 31     OBIS SE.esp
 50 32     BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp
 51 33     SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp
 52 34     Ars Metallica.esp
 53 35     Dr_Bandolier.esp
 54 36     Darker Nights for Obsidian Weathers.esp
 55 37     Obsidian_TS_Patch_Spectral.esp
 56 38     Improved Snow - Obsidian Weathers.esp
 57 39     WetandCold.esp
 58 3a     RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
 59 3b     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 60 3c     CBBE.esp
 61 3d     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 62 3e     12FemaleBrows.esp
 63 3f     Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
 64 40     Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
 65 41     Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 66 42     UIExtensions.esp
 67 43     Footprints.esp
 68 44     FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.esp
 69 45     SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp
 70 46     Obsidian_TS_SoS_Patch.esp
 71 47     SoS_Obsidian_Patch.esp
 72 48     RLO - Effects.esp
 73 49     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
 74 4a     TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
 75 4b     Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
 76 4c     NosPiercedEarsAll.esp
 77 4d     LeftHandRings.esp
 78 4e     LeftHandRings-1stPersonView.esp
 79 4f     GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
 80 50     Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
254 FE   0 Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp
 81 51     CRF_RSChildrenPatch.esp
 82 52     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 83 53     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
 84 54     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
 85 55     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
 86 56     SexLabTools.esp
 87 57     SexLabDefeat.esp
 88 58     animal_mansion.esp
 89 59     RSChildren.esp
 90 5a     BirdsAndFlocks_SSE.esp
 91 5b     Immersive Encounters.esp
 92 5c     House by the river.esp
 93 5d     Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
 94 5e     Run For Your Lives.esp
 95 5f     Cloaks.esp
 96 60     Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
254 FE   1 Qw_CloaksOfSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
 97 61     Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp
 98 62     Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
 99 63     Immersive Patrols II.esp
100 64     MoreNastyCritters.esp
101 65     SkyTEST-RealisticAnimalsBehaviors_LightVersion.esp
102 66     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
103 67     Convenient Horses.esp
104 68     CH Falskaar Patch.esp
105 69     Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp
106 6a     FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.esp
107 6b     SLPleasure.esp
108 6c     SOS - Shop.esp
109 6d     The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
110 6e     Scent of Sex.esp
111 6f     SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
112 70     MassMatchMakerSE.esp
113 71     TsuntsunArmor7B.esp
114 72     HornyCreatures.esp
115 73     FNIS.esp
116 74     SLAnimLoader.esp
117 75     Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
254 FE   2 Qw_CACO_ArsMetallica Patch.esp
254 FE   3 Qw_CACO_RDO Patch.esp
118 76     Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
254 FE   4 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp
119 77     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
120 78     Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
 

 

Posted

If you have used any LE mods, make sure BSAs are extracted and the LE BSA deleted. I don't think you should be using realistic ragdolls of any kind, didn't check the one you have installed though. It's included in XPMSE. You do have the LE version of Populated CIties Towns Villages installed, there is one for SSE too. It doesn't look like there's any BSA in it by file preview, but better install the correct one anyway.

Posted

It definitely doesn't sound like the FNIS limit.. are you using the normal FNIS or the FNIS-XXL?

 

First thing to check above all else.. your skeleton. With animation mods, it is the single biggest cause of a CTD on load. Can you double check that Schlongs of Skyrim is not overwriting the skeleton.nif from XPMSSE (so in the left pane of your mod manager). 

Posted
31 minutes ago, Xiderpunk said:

First thing to check above all else.. your skeleton. With animation mods, it is the single biggest cause of a CTD on load. Can you double check that Schlongs of Skyrim is not overwriting the skeleton.nif from XPMSSE (so in the left pane of your mod manager). 

i forgot about that

Posted
1 hour ago, Xiderpunk said:

It definitely doesn't sound like the FNIS limit.. are you using the normal FNIS or the FNIS-XXL?

 

First thing to check above all else.. your skeleton. With animation mods, it is the single biggest cause of a CTD on load. Can you double check that Schlongs of Skyrim is not overwriting the skeleton.nif from XPMSSE (so in the left pane of your mod manager). 

I uninstalled SoS and XPMSSE, reinstalled the skeleton and didn't let SoS override anything now. Ran FNIS-XXL again and it keeps still crashing. I reinstalled XPMSSE, FNIS XXL, CBBE, CBPC physics, Better males and SoS. Didn't let anything override XPMSSE. Still crashes.

1 hour ago, Kaarinah said:

If you have used any LE mods, make sure BSAs are extracted and the LE BSA deleted. I don't think you should be using realistic ragdolls of any kind, didn't check the one you have installed though. It's included in XPMSE. You do have the LE version of Populated CIties Towns Villages installed, there is one for SSE too. It doesn't look like there's any BSA in it by file preview, but better install the correct one anyway.

Good point. Although when downloaded via NMM it shows the correct version in the mods category but adds an .esp that refers to LE version still. 

1 hour ago, Seijin8 said:

Crash on early load usually means a missing master file.  Run LOOT.

I use LOOT, the load order is copied from it. Sorry I forgot to mention it in the main post.

Posted

One other thing you can try.. and this might not work, try removing FNIS-XXL and instead install the normal version. Some people have had crash on load issues with XXL version.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Xiderpunk said:

One other thing you can try.. and this might not work, try removing FNIS-XXL and instead install the normal version. Some people have had crash on load issues with XXL version.

Tried that right now, ran the FNIS again, still no progress. Might just uninstall every animation mod and skeletons to see if it still works. 

Posted

When you changing FNIS version, it sounds like you did run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe again, if not then that could cause it.

 

Another thing you could try.. some people have had issues with CBP being installed via a mod manager. You can try moving the CBP.dll file directly into your Skyrim Special Edition/Data/SKSE/Plugins directory.

 

ALSO... 

 

Have you tried launching skyrim se normally without using SKSE? Does it still crash?

Posted
4 hours ago, Xiderpunk said:

When you changing FNIS version, it sounds like you did run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe again, if not then that could cause it.

 

Another thing you could try.. some people have had issues with CBP being installed via a mod manager. You can try moving the CBP.dll file directly into your Skyrim Special Edition/Data/SKSE/Plugins directory.

 

ALSO... 

 

Have you tried launching skyrim se normally without using SKSE? Does it still crash?

It did not launch as normal skyrim either. Anyway, I did remove every custom skeleton and body mods, sexlab mods and FNIS. The game launches now so it's definitely a problem with the skeleton. I will fiddle around with the installation order and I might have a feeling in my gut about what might be the problem. 

 

 

 

 

 

A Gigantic thanks to everyone who have spent their time to answer my problem. 

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