Black Keys Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 Hi! I made a thread here, although I figured I should make one here considering how the majority of the mods concerned with the issue should be easily recognizable by the community here, so here goes(!): [in regards to the thread subject] This doesn't occur in interiors (buildings, dungeons), however when I enter an exterior map such as a city then there's numerous holes/tears where there really should be landscape textures. When I enter the field outside of the city, I find myself submerged in the water usually contained under working landscape textures (not that they're showing up in this case), and when I surface, I find myself still beneath where the landscape textures should be, with the map objects hovering over where I'm positioned (presumably where they're usually positioned when the landscape textures are operative). From what I've read, this 'glitch' isn't invoked by mods, and is instead a fault with the game engine. Is this fact necessarily valid? I've tried reinstalling the game, replacing the Data folder with a Vanilla backup I've saved, fast travelling across the world and installing the Land Magic patch. Does anybody know of any fixes? This is my current load order (with an updated bashed patch at the end; essentially A:CE3 with a few extra mods): 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm 06 TamagoClub.esm 07 HiyokoClub.esm 08 LoversCreature.esm 09 x117race.esm 0A ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1] 0B UndiesUnderneath.esm 0C Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.5.5b4] 0D BUDungeon.esm 0E Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0F MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esm 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1] 11 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 12 EURN.esp 13 RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp 14 MbpGirlAltmer.esp 15 MbpGirlBosmer.esp 16 MbpGirlBreton.esp 17 MbpGirlImp.esp 18 MbpGirlKhajiit.esp 19 MbpGirlNord.esp 1A MbpGirlRed.esp 1B UOPS Additional Changes.esp 1C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 1D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 1E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 1F USIPS Additional Changes.esp 20 AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0] 21 Damsels In Distress.esp ++ 1HweaponOnBack.esp [Version 1.0] 22 the punished girlbox.esp 23 Living Economy.esp 24 Living Economy - Items.esp 25 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 26 Populated Prisons.esp 27 P1DlookHereYou.esp 28 DLCHorseArmor.esp 29 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2C DLCOrrery.esp 2D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2E DLCVileLair.esp 2F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 30 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 31 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 32 VipCxjHHTest.esp 33 MaternityClothes.esp 34 DLCThievesDen.esp 35 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5] 36 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 37 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 38 TIE.esp [Version 1.48] 39 AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp 3A AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp 3B Smarter Bandits.esp 3C Bandit Hideouts.esp 3D Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.1] 3E FutaPriory.esp 3F Housewives v101.esp 40 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 41 Trolls Under Bridges.esp 42 Whispered Warning.esp 43 BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp 44 DLCFrostcrag.esp 45 Knights.esp 46 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 47 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1] 48 CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp 49 MONSTERGIRL-AMAZON.esp 4A MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esp 4B MONSTERGIRL-DEMON HIVE.esp 4C MONSTERGIRL-NECROMANCER MOON.esp 4D HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 4E DynamicFootPosition.esp 4F Realistic Hatred.esp 50 BUDungeonCore.esp 51 BUEquipsMerge.esp 52 BUDungeonAppend.esp 53 TamagoBreak.esp 54 TamagoNews.esp 55 TamagoShop.esp 56 TamagoTopic.esp 57 TamagoConfide.esp 58 LoversTamagoClub.esp 59 LoversEncounter.esp 5A HiyokoGenetics.esp 5B HiyokoGenerator.esp 5C HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 5D HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 5E TamagoSetBody.esp 5F LoversAdultYield.esp 60 LoversCalm.esp 61 LoversSetBody.esp 62 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 63 LoversAphrodisia.esp 64 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 65 LoversFSE.esp 66 LoversDRader.esp 67 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02] 68 LoversRapeman.esp 69 LoversSummonRapeman.esp 6A LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 6B LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 6C LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp 6D LoversRaperS.esp 6E LoversJoburg.esp 6F LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 70 LoversJealousy.esp 71 LoversBed.esp 72 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 73 LoversLoveJuice.esp 74 LoversPayBandit.esp 75 LoversPower.esp 76 LoversContraception.esp 77 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 78 LoversCreature.esp 79 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp 7A LoversStopCombatEx.esp 7B LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 7C LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 7D LoversRapeSlave.esp 7E LoversRapeStruggle.esp 7F LoversSlaveTrader.esp 80 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 81 LoversUtilityFunctions.esp 82 LoversBeatemUpS.esp 83 Neverender.esp ++ GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp 84 Unholy Darkness.esp 85 SetBody.esp 86 EnchantmentRestore.esp ++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp 87 StolenItemOwnership.esp 88 SDR_Core.esp [Version 4.4.1] 89 SDR_NPC Behavior.esp [Version 4.4.1] 8A SDR_Perks And Patches (Oblivion).esp [Version 4.4.1] 8B KamiCAS.esp [Version 2.2] 8C LST-EURN.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 8D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ X-Ray Detect.esp 8E MidasSpells.esp 8F MassA.I.esp 90 LoversMB2.esp 91 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 92 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 93 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 94 LoversNTRburglar.esp 95 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 96 Streamline 2.1.esp 97 Real_Mannequin.esp 98 ShaiyaOutfit.esp 99 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 9A Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp 9B Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp 9C SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] 9D SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30] 9E SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30] 9F SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2] A0 SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] A1 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] A2 AddActorValues_example.esp A3 BUDequipmentNA.esp A4 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] A5 TSS Custom Companion Template.esp A6 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp A7 Companion Postal Service.esp A8 Dibella.esp (Custom Companion) A9 LandMagicPatch.esp AA Bashed Patch, 0.esp I've installed these mods via OBMM: DarNified UI 1.3.2 HGEC_Body_with_BBB_v1dot12-34442 MMM355b5 - Full OMOD-14442 Natural_Faces_v95_OMOD-1965 NoMaaM BBB Animation Replacer V3_1 OMOD-35551-3-1 Qarl_TP3_Full_v1.3_OMOD
gregathit Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 The 'glitch' if you want to call it that is most definitely NOT a game engine problem. It most definitely IS a plugin conflict problem. This is the sort of thing that happens when one mod conflicts with another. The first thing you need to do is go and get BOSS and run it. It will help you sort out your load order. You also need to review each and every plugin you have and make certain that you have all the requirements for it and that you have read what it may conflict with. Reading the readme files will help with this and also looking at what the plugin does to see what it may conflict with. Make certain when you install things that you know what you are installing and why. Is this a duplicate: 9A Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp 9B Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp Where you supposed to only choose one? You have not paid attention to all the load order guidelines that are on this site as you have your lovers files screwy. The following files should be under your bashed patch: 90 LoversMB2.esp 91 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 92 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 93 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Looks like you are running rev96 of lovers. Right now that is just a beta and we don't know that it works with all the lovers plugins. Make certain you have the beta creatures and correct version of PK extender or it just won't work right. I don't know that rapestruggle works with rev96 - maybe it does and maybe it doesn't we just haven't made it that far in our testing. Remove these two: A5 TSS Custom Companion Template.esp A6 Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp They are buggy as hell and can mess up your game. You can safely leave Toaster Says Share v3.esm as that won't hurt anything and will give you the ability to access NPC's inventroy to give them items (or take them away). EDIT: Oh, and your probably about to be banned from the nexus. Posting a load order over there with lovers files included is probably going to get you flagged and banned. The nexus moderators hate lovers plugins.
Black Keys Posted November 14, 2012 Author Posted November 14, 2012 What I've done so far: Removed 9B Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp, TSS Custom Companion Template.esp and Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp. Resorted the load order according to the masterfile and userlist included in the Lovers mod package. As for the files I'm to load in the batch patch, Wyre Bash reports them (all) as being unmergeable due to "New record(s) in block(s): ANIO,IDLE, QUST, SCPT." and/or "Has BSA archive." and/or being the master file for a mod. Notably the mods were working fine until I decided to download a few more, which caused the landscape tearing and/or disappearing. Even after I removed the mods, and replaced the Data folder with a Vanilla version (practically a complete rollback), and did not include those mods at all with my others, the problem persisted. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72] 03 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 BreakUndies.esm 06 TamagoClub.esm 07 HiyokoClub.esm 08 LoversCreature.esm 09 x117race.esm 0A ShieldOnBack.esm [Version 3.4.1] 0B UndiesUnderneath.esm 0C Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.5.5b4] 0D BUDungeon.esm 0E Toaster Says Share v3.esm 0F MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esm 10 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.4.1] 11 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 12 EURN.esp 13 RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp 14 MbpGirlAltmer.esp 15 MbpGirlBosmer.esp 16 MbpGirlBreton.esp 17 MbpGirlImp.esp 18 MbpGirlKhajiit.esp 19 MbpGirlNord.esp 1A MbpGirlRed.esp 1B UOPS Additional Changes.esp 1C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 1D DLCShiveringIsles.esp 1E Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.0] 1F USIPS Additional Changes.esp 20 AFK_PrayerIdles.esp [Version 1.0] 21 Damsels In Distress.esp ++ 1HweaponOnBack.esp [Version 1.0] 22 the punished girlbox.esp 23 Living Economy.esp 24 Living Economy - Items.esp 25 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 26 Populated Prisons.esp 27 P1DlookHereYou.esp 28 DLCHorseArmor.esp 29 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 2A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 2B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2C DLCOrrery.esp 2D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 2E DLCVileLair.esp 2F DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 30 DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 31 VipCxj_HighHeels.esp 32 VipCxjHHTest.esp 33 MaternityClothes.esp 34 DLCThievesDen.esp 35 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.5] 36 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 37 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72] 38 TIE.esp [Version 1.48] 39 AdrenalineOblivion-SupportElements.esp 3A AdrenalineOblivion-SpawnElement.esp 3B Smarter Bandits.esp 3C Bandit Hideouts.esp 3D Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.1] 3E FutaPriory.esp 3F Housewives v101.esp 40 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 41 Trolls Under Bridges.esp 42 Whispered Warning.esp 43 BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp 44 DLCFrostcrag.esp 45 Knights.esp 46 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.2] 47 DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.1] 48 CHILDREN ANNUAD.esp 49 MONSTERGIRL-AMAZON.esp 4A MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esp 4B MONSTERGIRL-DEMON HIVE.esp 4C MONSTERGIRL-NECROMANCER MOON.esp 4D HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 5.3.2] 4E DynamicFootPosition.esp 4F Realistic Hatred.esp 50 BUDungeonCore.esp 51 BUEquipsMerge.esp 52 BUDungeonAppend.esp 53 TamagoBreak.esp 54 TamagoNews.esp 55 TamagoShop.esp 56 TamagoTopic.esp 57 TamagoConfide.esp 58 LoversTamagoClub.esp 59 LoversEncounter.esp 5A HiyokoGenetics.esp 5B HiyokoGenerator.esp 5C HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 5D HiyokoQuestTarget.esp 5E TamagoSetBody.esp 5F LoversAdultYield.esp 60 LoversCalm.esp 61 LoversSetBody.esp 62 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 63 LoversAphrodisia.esp 64 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 65 LoversFSE.esp 66 LoversDRader.esp 67 LoversHudInformation.esp [Version 1.02] 68 LoversRapeman.esp 69 LoversSummonRapeman.esp 6A LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 6B LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 6C LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp 6D LoversRaperS.esp 6E LoversJoburg.esp 6F LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 70 LoversJealousy.esp 71 LoversBed.esp 72 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 73 LoversLoveJuice.esp 74 LoversPayBandit.esp 75 LoversPower.esp 76 LoversContraception.esp 77 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 78 LoversCreature.esp 79 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] ++ LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp 7A LoversStopCombatEx.esp 7B LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 7C LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp 7D LoversRapeSlave.esp 7E LoversRapeStruggle.esp 7F LoversSlaveTrader.esp 80 LSTBravilUnderground.esp ++ ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp 81 LoversUtilityFunctions.esp 82 LoversBeatemUpS.esp 83 Neverender.esp ++ GalerionUnarmoredAcrobatics.esp 84 Unholy Darkness.esp 85 SetBody.esp 86 EnchantmentRestore.esp ++ EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp 87 StolenItemOwnership.esp 88 SDR_Core.esp [Version 4.4.1] 89 SDR_NPC Behavior.esp [Version 4.4.1] 8A SDR_Perks And Patches (Oblivion).esp [Version 4.4.1] 8B KamiCAS.esp [Version 2.2] 8C LST-EURN.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 8D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ X-Ray Detect.esp 8E MidasSpells.esp 8F MassA.I.esp 90 LoversMB2.esp 91 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 92 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 93 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 94 LoversNTRburglar.esp 95 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 96 Streamline 2.1.esp 97 Real_Mannequin.esp 98 ShaiyaOutfit.esp 99 Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp 9A Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp 9B SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp [Version 1.30] 9C SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp [Version 1.30] 9D SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp [Version 1.30] 9E SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp [Version 1.2] 9F SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp [Version 1.11] A0 SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp [Version 1.11] A1 AddActorValues_example.esp A2 BUDequipmentNA.esp A3 Mart's Monster Mod.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] A4 Companion Postal Service.esp A5 Dibella.esp A6 LandMagicPatch.esp A7 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
gregathit Posted November 14, 2012 Posted November 14, 2012 When you say you replace the data folder with a vanilla one, did you just copy\paste the vanilla overtop of the other? If so then you did nothing at all to fix things. To "roll back" you would need to have deleted the data folder and copy\pasted a data folder backup from prior to you installing those last couple of mods. All I can recommend at this point is to find those mods you installed that broke things and unzip them to a temp location. Then look at what meshes they installed and go manually remove them from your data folder (assuming you did indeed disable those esp\esm files and have rebuilt your bashed patch). I will tell you one last time that these files MUST be underneath your bashed patch: 91 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 92 Lovers3dorgasm.esp 93 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
Black Keys Posted November 15, 2012 Author Posted November 15, 2012 Yes, I deleted the existing Data folder and pasted the Vanilla backup into the Oblivion folder. In the meantime, I'll just trial-and-error all of the existing mods to find the culprit. My bad, I originally thought they needed to be merged into it. Edit: Removed "0F MONSTERGIRL-ANGELICALLIANCE.esm", no missing terrain now.
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