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So I'm going to be straight forward in saying I have little idea as to what I'm doing. I ofcourse have the common sense to know how to install pretty much any mod, what directories to put it in what will conflict/overwrite what. So I'm probably lucky that I can even play with this many mods. The problem I've been getting it (on save/wait/travel) about 1/10 1/20 times (it seems random) I'll crash to desktop. This Isn't exactly gamebreaking for me but I'm assuming that it's probably due to a conflicting mod / load order.


So heres my load order


Active Mod Files:


00  Oblivion.esm
01  underdark.esm
02  Morrowind_ob.esm
03  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
06  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]
07  Lovers with PK.esm
08  LoversCreature.esm
09  x117race.esm
0A  Chanpon.esm
0B  Knights - Revelation.esm
0C  TRoN.esp
0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.2]
0E  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.1]
11  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
12  Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp
13  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
14  Skyrimized Water HD BLUE eng.esp  [Version 1.8.]
15  Skyrimized Waters HD BLUE - SI Addon.esp
16  Portable Campsite.esp
17  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp
18  Living Economy.esp
19  Purge Cell Buffers - Cell Change.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
1A  DLCOrrery.esp
1B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
1D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
1E  Morrowind_ob - MorrowOblivion Eloth Landscape & Grass for v033.esp
1F  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v10.esp
20  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp
21  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - ClothingReplacer.esp
22  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionWater.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - Faction Relationships.esp
23  Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
24  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
25  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
26  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversSlaveTrader.esp
27  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
28  DLCFrostcrag.esp
29  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
2A  Knights.esp
2B  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
2C  Knights - Revelation.esp
2D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2E  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
2F  xulTheHeath.esp
30  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
31  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
32  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
33  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
34  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
35  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
36  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
37  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
38  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
39  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
3A  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
3B  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
3C  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
3D  xulPantherRiver.esp
3E  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
3F  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
40  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
41  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
42  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
43  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
44  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
45  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
46  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
47  OOO-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
48  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
49  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
4A  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
4B  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
4C  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
4D  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
4E  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
4F  Compass-Disable_POIs.esp
50  Compass-Disable_QuestMarkers.esp
51  Compass-Disable_Both.esp
52  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
53  LoversFSE.esp
54  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
55  LoversRaperS.esp
56  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 90]
57  LoversBitch.esp
58  LoversCreature.esp
59  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
5A  SP1stPLegs.esp
5B  Cazy Hairs.esp
5C  DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
5D  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
5E  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
5F  x117race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
60  Lop-ears Elf.esp
61  AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp
62  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
63  LakesideHome.esp  [Version 2.]
64  ViljainLakeside.esp
65  Sonia.esp
66  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
67  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
68  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]
69  Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]
6A  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
6B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]
6C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
6D  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.2.1]
6E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
6F  StokerWolff.esp
70  Viconia.esp
71  ViconiaChapterTwo.esp
72  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
73  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
74  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
75  Morrowind_ob - Silt Striders.esp
76  Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp
77  1em_Vilja_CazyRD01G.esp




Any help at all with load order or conflicting mods will be very appreciated

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Looks like you have been relying on BOSS to sort most of your load order. BOSS is a great for most mods but sucks ass with lovers plugins.


Always be on the look out for errors like this:

26 LSTBravilUnderground.esp

----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversSlaveTrader.esp


What that is trying to tell you is that Bravil Underground HAS to be after Slave trader or it won't work worth a crap.


Next up, move these two to the very bottom of your load order and make sure they stay there:



That will keep your lovers mods from having anything conflict with them.


Check the read me for these two to see if you should be using one or the other or both:

16 Portable Campsite.esp

17 Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp


Again, check the read me on this as I am pretty sure you are not supposed to use all three:

4F Compass-Disable_POIs.esp

50 Compass-Disable_QuestMarkers.esp

51 Compass-Disable_Both.esp


Check that it is ok to use both of these together:

1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04]



I don't think it is wise to use both of these:

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp


I recommend keeping the MBP version and disabling the other.


Other than that, your load order looks pretty good.


Make sure you have turned off autosaves and never use quick saves (they get corrupted quite quickly). If making manual saves is too much of a pain then grab Streamline as it has an auto save feature that works well and doesn't cause any CTD's.




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Thanks this seems to answer any questions I had i thought delinquent master meant the master file was missing/corrupt or something :s


I'll look into the readme's for what should/should not active together




if an admin/mod wants they can delete this post (unless I can myself?)

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