PhilMc2 Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Hi there, I basically have only one little question...do you know about conflicts between the new SKSE 1.6.x beta and Skyrim 1.8.x beta? I searched the internet but I couldn`t find any others having the same problem like me o.0 I installed the new 1.8 beta patch for Skyrim via Steam + the skse beta build for that specific version + Dawnguard and Hearthfire...and now I can only run the game without SKSE...that works fine, but with SKSE it crashes before it can display the Bethesda logo -.- - disabled ALL mods...the only things I left untouched were SkyUI`s interface files - installed SKSE CORRECTLY...trust me I did NOT forget the data folder or the exe-files or to delete the obsolete dll - tested with and without TESVAL and Fuz Ro D'oh PlugIns - tested with and without ENB ...same problem Changing to the old Skyrim 1.7.x patch and SKSE 1.5.x works. But the new Skyrim patch resolves my crash issues so I really need the new 1.8 patch -.- I know "beta" is just for testing and not free of bugs but shouldn`t SKSE at least be able to start the game? Do you have any ideas or experiences? I ran out of memory -.- Thank you for your time ^^
Tefnacht Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 Odd. I am using SKSE 1.6.3 with the Skyrim Beta 1.8.151.0 and it works flawlessly. Before that I used 1.6.2 with 1.8.145.0 and that worked too. Usually crashing before the splash screen hints at a missing master file but since it works for you without SKSE I suppose that is ruled out. Does SKSE manage to create a skse.log file before the whole thing blows up? Maybe there is some hint in there. It should be located in a folder adjacent to your save game files. Mine is at .../My Games/Skyrim/SKSE/skse.log. There should be two more log files there: skse_loader.log and skse_steam_loader.log. Those might contain hints as well. You mentioned TESVAL. Is that the TESV Acceleration Layer? If it is then get rid of it. That thing is obsolete since Skyrim moved beyond version 1.3. You might want to check your Skyrim directory for a dinput8.dll file and delete it if it is present. Older version of TESVAL came with that file and it might cause trouble. The new SKSE creates *.skse files along with every save to store extra data. Maybe your security doesn't allow SKSE access to that folder but I don't really see why that would crash the game. Beyond that, I don't really have any ideas. Sorry.
PhilMc2 Posted October 27, 2012 Author Posted October 27, 2012 Thx for your response, SKSE works perfectly until I would like to start the game ^^ I already checked the log files but I wasn`t able to read any kind of conflict there. Maybe you can see more. Please take a look: skse.log SKSE runtime: initialize (version = 1.6.3 08970000 01CDB3FCFDFA50A3, os = 6.1 (7601)) imagebase = 00400000 runtime root = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\ plugin directory = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data\SKSE\Plugins\ config path = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini init complete hooked dinput skse_loader.log skse loader 01060030 01CDB3FCFDB08DE2 6.1 (7601) runtime root = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\ config path = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\Data\SKSE\skse.ini procPath = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\\TESV.exe launching: TESV.exe (E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\\TESV.exe) dwSignature = FEEF04BD dwStrucVersion = 00010000 dwFileVersionMS = 00010008 dwFileVersionLS = 00970000 dwProductVersionMS = 00010008 dwProductVersionLS = 00970000 dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017 dwFileFlags = 00000000 dwFileOS = 00000004 dwFileType = 00000001 dwFileSubtype = 00000000 dwFileDateMS = 00000000 dwFileDateLS = 00000000 version = 0001000800970000 steam exe hook call addr = 00F55A01 load lib addr = 0106A0B4 dll = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\\skse_1_8_151.dll main thread id = 3976 hookBase = 001D0000 loadLibraryAAddr = 758649BF hook thread complete launching skse_steam_loader.log skse loader 01060030 (steam) 01CDB3FCFDB97EB4 6.1 (7601) base addr = 6C770000 GetSystemTimeAsFileTime IAT = 0106A1D8 original GetSystemTimeAsFileTime = 758634E9 patched GetSystemTimeAsFileTime = 6C771600 GetStartupInfoA IAT = 0106A1D0 original GetStartupInfoA = 75860E00 patched GetStartupInfoA = 6C771620 InstallHook: thread = 3976 retaddr = 00F682F2 hookSrc = 0 appPath = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\TESV.exe dwSignature = FEEF04BD dwStrucVersion = 00010000 dwFileVersionMS = 00010008 dwFileVersionLS = 00970000 dwProductVersionMS = 00010008 dwProductVersionLS = 00970000 dwFileFlagsMask = 00000017 dwFileFlags = 00000000 dwFileOS = 00000004 dwFileType = 00000001 dwFileSubtype = 00000000 dwFileDateMS = 00000000 dwFileDateLS = 00000000 version = 0001000800970000 steam exe dll = E:\Bethesda\Fallot New Vegas\SteamApps\common\skyrim\skse_1_8_151.dll old winmain = 0069CFB0 OnHook: thread = 3976 calling winmain ..The only thing I find interesting is those double \\ before TESV.exe in the skse_loader.log...call me noob but I cannot imagine why they are there -.- The SKSE plugins were my first target after experiencing the crash but it does not matter if those are installed or not -.- Skyrim and all relevant applications already have full access to everything.
Tefnacht Posted October 27, 2012 Posted October 27, 2012 No ... sorry. I don't see any problems in these logs either. Actually I get very similar logs if I just start Skyrim and exit it again without loading a game or starting a new one. The double backslash is normal and just a symbol to mark the “working directory” or the “home base” of a executable or library. We all get that. I apologize, I have no idea or clue why your game crashes when loaded through the SKSE launcher.
PhilMc2 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Posted October 29, 2012 No need for apologies ^^ Thank you for your tipps. I wrote an e-mail to the skse-team...maybe I`m a lucky one and they have time to answer + some ideas ^^ If not I will wait for the next update
Deman40 Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Version 1.8.151.0.7 was released 11/01/2012 on Steam.This update for non-Dawnguard has screwed up my current game,hopefully a new S.K.S.E. is forthcoming.It is only for the 1.8.151.0 version and won't work on my rig/comp. Next reinstall I'm gonna move my Skyrim out of Steam directory,I hate the auto update,if I would have know I would have started in offline mode.
tattooedillusions Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Hey scooby have you tried installing the newest skse anyway just to try it at all or no? It worked fine for me plus I just found this on the UESPWiki: "Version 1.8 [edit] Version 1.8.151.0.7 Version 1.8.151.0.7 was released 11/01/2012 on Steam. Version 1.8.151.0.7 was released as a Steam beta on 10/24/2012" If you just figured that it didn't work so you didn't get it, go ahead and try it and see what happens. If you have already tried it and still didn't work then I have no clue. This update screwed up any chance of editing any mod that requires the patch 1.7 update.esm in CK also. I tried tweaking one mod that required it and it wouldn't let me because it couldn't find the right update.esm so CK needs to get updated too. Grrrr ha ha. Cheers and hope you can get SKSE working.
Rasana Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 No need for apologies ^^ Thank you for your tipps. I wrote an e-mail to the skse-team...maybe I`m a lucky one and they have time to answer + some ideas ^^ If not I will wait for the next update Its not just you. I'm having exactly the same issue with the latest update of Skyrim that downloaded today, 11/1. I can run Skyrim fine without SKSE. It won't run - just crashes to the desktop before even the Bethseda logo - when I try to use it with the latest version of SKSE. Just have to wait for an update.
Deman40 Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Hey scooby have you tried installing the newest skse anyway just to try it at all or no? It worked fine for me plus I just found this on the UESPWiki: "Version 1.8 [edit] Version 1.8.151.0.7 Version 1.8.151.0.7 was released 11/01/2012 on Steam. Version 1.8.151.0.7 was released as a Steam beta on 10/24/2012" If you just figured that it didn't work so you didn't get it' date=' go ahead and try it and see what happens. If you have already tried it and still didn't work then I have no clue. This update screwed up any chance of editing any mod that requires the patch 1.7 update.esm in CK also. I tried tweaking one mod that required it and it wouldn't let me because it couldn't find the right update.esm so CK needs to get updated too. Grrrr ha ha. Cheers and hope you can get SKSE working. [/quote'] It's as Rasana wrote, when I launch the SKSE it states that it's not compatible with the current Skyrim version.I'm sure that the SKSE update will be available ASAP.Thanks for trying to help.
tattooedillusions Posted November 2, 2012 Posted November 2, 2012 Ah ok I was just checking because for some reason it's working for me. Unless it's because I start my game with that fake windowed mode mod but then again that's what told me earlier that it was out of date. Maybe because I moved my Steam directory out of Program Files(x86) and into a different area I have no idea. I'm pretty computer stupid when it comes to stuff like that. Ok I admit I'm computer stupid all the way around lol.
PhilMc2 Posted November 2, 2012 Author Posted November 2, 2012 No need for apologies ^^ Thank you for your tipps. I wrote an e-mail to the skse-team...maybe I`m a lucky one and they have time to answer + some ideas ^^ If not I will wait for the next update Its not just you. I'm having exactly the same issue with the latest update of Skyrim that downloaded today' date=' 11/1. I can run Skyrim fine without SKSE. It won't run - just crashes to the desktop before even the Bethseda logo - when I try to use it with the latest version of SKSE. Just have to wait for an update. [/quote'] I am really happy that I`m not the only one with that problem ^^ Today I completely reinstalled Steam and Skyrim...after steam has downloaded everything (7 hours waiting -.-) I will test the current SKSE version and the new patch...if that won`t work we can exclude any kind of mod as the cause of the problem ^^ I will give feedback.
PhilMc2 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Posted November 3, 2012 Okay, fresh install without any mod and the problem is there again...now I can only imagine that the Dawnguard or Hearthfire-Addons are responsible...removing these addons has no effect so only chance is waiting -.- Sometimes I hate modding ;D
jbezorg Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 Okay' date=' fresh install without any mod and the problem is there again...now I can only imagine that the Dawnguard or Hearthfire-Addons are responsible...removing these addons has no effect so only chance is waiting -.- Sometimes I hate modding ;D [/quote'] Actually. Just downloaded 1.6.3 and got the same CTDs. Refreshed http://skse.silverlock.org/ and the 1.6.3 build was replaced with the 1.6.4 Installing now and seeing if it's fixed
jbezorg Posted November 3, 2012 Posted November 3, 2012 We have start screen. Now to re-enable my mods.
PhilMc2 Posted November 3, 2012 Author Posted November 3, 2012 We have start screen. Now to re-enable my mods. Yesssss! Now it works! Big thank you and big big thank you to the whole skse-team...I go back modding ;D
tattooedillusions Posted November 4, 2012 Posted November 4, 2012 Thanks for the update jb. Now if only CK would so an update lol. Unless they did and I missed it
rezanord Posted April 27, 2013 Posted April 27, 2013 please helpi cant use my skseevery i play my skyrim always show in my skyrim "skse must be update latest version please update in skyriiskse.org bla...bla..blaa"my skyrim version 1.8.151.0i'm download skse version 1.6.13if i run skse loader always said " please update to the lathes version skyrim"and i cant play my mod in my skyrim need help
Rayblue Posted April 27, 2013 Posted April 27, 2013 Check the archived builds. http://skse.silverlock.org/download/archive/
rezanord Posted April 27, 2013 Posted April 27, 2013 thank you broHHA seems I forgot to use standard English hehehehehHer useful information brogreetings nord
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