[MO2 problem] Cant Fullscreen plus weird HUD artifacts.

[Canaris]

Ok so i switched from NMM to MO2 for Fallout 4. 

I installed the same mods ( more or less ) as i had with NMM. 

And i run into two problems :

 

1. I cant fullscreen - my game crashes with the "Game stopped responding" error message as soon as it tries to start. Borderless window with 1920x1080 resolution works fine ( max resolution of my monitor ), ditto for any combination of windowed and different resolutions. Once in game, it runs fine - no stuttering, fps drops etc. 

Starting vanilla through normal Fallout 4 exe works fine.  

 

2. I have these weird artifacts on my HUD when im in game. 

They are not the fault of any hud mod i have because even with every hud mod uninstalled i still got them. They are not present when i launch F4 in fullscreen so im guessing its the fault of that borderless window. 

 

So, any ideas why my game refuses to launch in fullscreen through MO2 ? Only reason i can think off is my computer being too weak to handle that Virtual install thing that Mo2 does Is 8Gb Ram not enough ? 

 

[Di3sIrae]

You should be able to run it without problems. Did you delete everything that was on Data folder? Like a clean Fo4 install?
It would be good to verify game integrity with steam. It'll download some CC stuff, that, if you're not using, is safe to be deleted.

Also another good thing would be run BethIni for Mod Organizer (follow the steps, close MO and run BethIni, select the profile you're using for MO). If you changed the MO config to read the inis in My Docs folder, then use Beth Ini as normal.

 

Also be sure to have your graphic card drivers and windows updated.

Then test without mods (just make a new profile and it will be empty), and open the game. Try with and without F4SE to test the vanilla game running through MO.

If you don't find problems at one stage, it will be easier to understand where the issue is. The game should run in Fullscreen normally.

Also, test the game outside of MO, to see if it still have a problem without the virtual system.

 

I have somehow a problem with this setting too. My monitor is 4K and if i try to play borderless in a lower res (not really worthy to play in 4K), the game screen will be bigger than what i can see. So i can only play in Fullscreen in a  lower res lol

 

*Ram issue: You should get crashes and ILS, not HUD arctifacts. This looks like something is off in the installation.

[Canaris]

It was a squeaky clean installation - only things i did with actual F4 folder were copy-pasting F4SE and ENB.

Everything else was done through MO2.

Outside MO2 game runs fine in fullscreen, it also doesnt have any of those HUD artifacts. 

 

I thought the same thing with drivers etc but then that game wouldnt run AT ALL. But it runs all the time except fullscreen launched from MO2. 

 

EDIT : it seems that in typical Bethesda game fashion Fallout 4 decided that my blood pressure is high enough so it will generously start in Fullscreen through MO2 now... 

But those artifacts are still present so im guessing its one of the mods fault. 
My load order in the spoiler : 

 

Spoiler

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
*Endless Warfare.esm
*ArmorKeywords.esm
*CRP - Community Restraints Pack.esm
*TortureDevices.esm
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*Devious Devices.esm
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*HUDFramework.esm
*DEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esm
*SettlementKeywords.esm
*CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm
*CBBE.esp
*Dustbowl Overhaul.esp
*PRC Patch for Enbs.esp
*Fallout Loot Overhaul.esp
*MoreUniques.esp
*Armorsmith Extended.esp
*Locksmith.esp
*Locky Bastard.esp
*F4SS.esp
*Reverb and Ambiance Overhaul.esp
*Modern Firearms.esp
*DEF_WIDGETS_SURVIVAL1.esp
*SlowTime.esp
*CROSS_GoreCrits.esp
*CROSS_GoreCrits_FarHarborPatch.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4.esp
*DarkerNights.esp
*DarkerNightsDetection.esp
*SurvivalOptions.esp
*DiamondCitySWAT.esp
*FO4Hotkeys.esp
*PushAwayCompanions.esp
*Waterworks.esp
*Hobo-Scavenger.esp
*MK_Agony.esp
*Animated Drinking.esp
*OutfitSwitcher.esp
*Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
*PIP-Pad.esp
*PIP-Pad_Pip-BoyFlashlight.esp
*PlayerVoiceFrequencySlider.esp
*Settler Sandbox Overhaul.esp
*UncappedSettlementSurplus.esp
*EFF.esp
*Weapons of Fate.esp
*Weapons of Fate - Reduced Bullet Speed.esp
*walkers.esp
*KSHairdos.esp
*EyesoftheUniverse.esp
*LooksMirror.esp
*Lots More Facial Hair.esp
*Lots More Male Hairstyles.esp
*MiscHairstyle.esp
*MoreBeards.esp
*MoreHairstyles4Female.esp
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*The Eyes Of Beauty.esp
*TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
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*PosterForYou.esp
*Crazy - Sex Toys of the Commonwealth.esp
*CRX.esp
*FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
*AA Lets Dance - NPC Version.esp
*Shino Poses.esp
*VIO_Strap-On.esp
*TheNaughtyCanvas.esp
*Sun's Poses.esp
*THPoses.esp
*Usable Pillory.esp
*NoPerkNuka.esp
*BobbleGirl.esp
*3DNPC_FO4.esp
*SOTS.esp
*OutcastsAndRemnants.esp
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*TrainBar.esp
*AA FusionCityRising.esp
*AA FusionCityRising - HotC.esp
*America Rising - A Tale of the Enclave.esp
*Raider Children.esp
*DeadlierDeathclaws.esp
*WZWildWasteland.esp
*CheatTerminal.esp
*Institute Patch for PRC.esp
*CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
*SuperMutantOverhaul.esp
*BetterCompanions.esp
*XXXMags.esp
*MikeMooresMCAM.esp
*Modern Sidearms.esp
*Nuka World Bottle Fix.esp
*Keep Radiants In Commonwealth.esp
*SOTS_AWKCR_AS_Patch.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Far Harbor.esp
*Vivid Weathers - FO4 - Summer.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Natural Bright.esp
*Vivid Weathers - Nuka World.esp
*RainofBrassPetals.esp
*W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
*155mm Howitzer M1.esp
*Adobe House Kit.esp
*Buildable_PAFrames.esp
*Buildable_PAFrames_Recipe.esp
*CleanSettlement.esp
*Craftable Adhesives.esp
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*Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp
*Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp
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*Logical Recipes.esp
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*Simple Artillery Strikes.esp
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*Better Explosives.esp
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*10mm Replacer Colt 6520.esp
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*Journal.esp
*The Wandering Scavver CBBE-EVB.esp
*ASA.esp
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*BE_Enhanced Grenades.esp
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*Better Explosives - Perks redone.esp
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*CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp
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*Scrap Everything - Vault-Tec Workshop.esp
*ScrapUpdate - Ultimate.esp
*StartMeUp.esp
 

EDIT 2 : Disabling both DEF-CORE and WIDGETS and HudFramework doesnt seem to have an effect and those are only mods i can think off to mess with Hud.

EDIT3 - ok so after browsing hundreds of pages it turns out to be a problem with changing defaultFOV... Returning to default 65 seems to more or less reallign that shaded background with message boxes... 

[Di3sIrae]

2 hours ago, Canaris said:

EDIT : it seems that in typical Bethesda game fashion Fallout 4 decided that my blood pressure is high enough so it will generously start in Fullscreen through MO2 now...

Heh yup, sometimes things fix themselves randomly.
Or better, you struggle with a problem, restart PC, problem is gone xD

 

Well, i've never seen anything about this FOV issue. Were you using higher FOV? Because i play with FOV 80 and i don't have any issue. I also use my custom DEF_UI but no other mod, like HUD Framework. Strange, but fine that tou were able to figure things out. There's just so many things that can occur...

[Canaris]

1 hour ago, Di3sIrae said:

Well, i've never seen anything about this FOV issue. Were you using higher FOV? Because i play with FOV 80 and i don't have any issue. I also use my custom DEF_UI but no other mod, like HUD Framework. Strange, but fine that tou were able to figure things out. There's just so many things that can occur...

I usually leave default fov and just use console commands in game to set it to 100.

This time i tried to change it in MO2 and i guess i fucked something up.. 

I will try to spin this around.