Oblivion New Game CTD help?

[kryssikari]

Hello all, I've been debugging my rather obscene mod install for about a week now, and can't for the life of my figure out what on earth isn't working...

 

Basically, I can't start a new game, I hit the new game button, it loads about 1/4 of the bar, then AppCrashes. I've checked the ConScribe logs, and they always stop during the UndiesUnderneath initialization. however turning it off or uninstalling it with Wrye doesn't do a damn thing, so I'm thinking it's not that.

 

I do have a back-up data file that works, but I really don't want to have to revert to it without at least seeking some expert opinions.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Zedar.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  Jog_X_Mod.esm
04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]
09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
0A  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0E  Artifacts.esm
0F  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
10  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.2.3]
11  Lovers with PK.esm
12  BreakUndies.esm
13  TamagoClub.esm
14  HiyokoClub.esm
15  LoversCreature.esm
16  CURP_Controller.esm
17  CLS-Craftybits.esm
18  EyeCandy - Content.esm
19  x117race.esm
1A  UndiesUnderneath.esm
1B  EURN.esp
**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]
1C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
1D  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
1E  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
1F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
20  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
21  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
22  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
23  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
24  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]
25  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]
26  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]
27  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
28  Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
29  Real_Mannequin.esp
2A  Street Gangs.esp
2B  Zedar.esp
2C  DLCHorseArmor.esp
2D  DLCOrrery.esp
2E  DLCVileLair.esp
2F  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
30  DLCSpellTomes.esp
31  EyeCandy Compilation.esp
32  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
33  HENTAI_EVE.esp
34  UU_Female_Undies.esp
35  VipCxjHHTest.esp
36  DLCThievesDen.esp
37  ExnemRuneskulls.esp
++  FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
38  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
39  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  CB-Cobl_Glue.esp
3A  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
3B  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3C  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
3D  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]
3E  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
3F  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
40  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]
++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
41  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
42  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++  TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp  [Version 1.39c]
43  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]
44  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
45  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp
46  00RBScribeSupplies Intensive.esp
47  Artifacts.esp
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
48  Bandit Hideouts.esp
49  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.1]
4A  EM_FarmAnimals1.esp
4B  HentaiLovelyHouse.esp
4C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
4D  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
4E  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]
4F  thievery.esp
50  Valley_View_Estate.esp
51  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
52  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]
53  Whispered Warning.esp
54  BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp
55  DLCFrostcrag.esp
56  Knights.esp
57  TOTF.esp
58  The Lost Spires.esp
59  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]
5A  Blood&Mud.esp
5B  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6]
5C  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp
++  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
5D  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
5E  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp  [Version 1.1]
5F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
++  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
60  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
61  xulTheHeath.esp
62  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
63  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
++  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
64  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
65  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
66  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
67  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
68  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
69  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
++  Zedar-AncientYews patch.esp
++  HentaiLovelyHouse2-AncientYews patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
6A  OblivionCollectibleCards-AncientYews patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
6B  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
6C  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
6D  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
6E  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
6F  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
70  xulPantherRiver.esp
71  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
72  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
73  ValleyViewEstate-RiverEthe patch.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
74  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
75  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
76  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
77  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
78  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
79  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
7A  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
++  Oblivion Collectible Cards UL Cheydinhal Falls Patch.esp
7B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
7C  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
7D  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
7E  OblivionCollectibleCards-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
7F  RealSwordsNord-Snowdale patch.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
80  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
81  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
82  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
++  Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
83  BanditHideouts-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
84  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
85  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
86  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
87  OblivionCollectibleCards-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
88  TamagoPlayerHUD.esp
89  TamagoBreak.esp
8A  TamagoNews.esp
8B  TamagoShop.esp
8C  TamagoTopic.esp
8D  TamagoConfide.esp
8E  LoversTamagoClub.esp
8F  LoversEncounter.esp
90  LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
91  HiyokoQuestTarget.esp
92  HiyokoGenetics.esp
93  HiyokoGenerator.esp
94  HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp
95  TamagoSetBody.esp
96  LoversSetBody.esp
97  VToy.esp
98  LoversAphrodisia.esp
99  LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
9A  LoversFSE.esp
9B  LoversDRader.esp
9C  LoversRapeman.esp
9D  LoversSummonRapeman.esp
9E  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
++  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
9F  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
A0  LoversVoiceSSPx117.esp
A1  LoversRaperS.esp
A2  LoversJoburg.esp
A3  LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp
A4  LoversJealousy.esp
A5  LoversBed.esp
A6  LoversPayBandit.esp
A7  LoversPower.esp
A8  LoversContraception.esp
A9  LoversNTRburglar.esp
AA  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96]
AB  LoversCreature.esp
AC  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]
AD  LoversSoundCreature.esp  [Version 0.1.0]
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans.esp
**  LoversCreature_SexualOrgans_Dogs.esp
++  LoversCreatureVoiceForceEnabler.esp
AE  LoversBrothel.esp
AF  LoversStopCombatEx.esp
B0  LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
B1  LoversEscapeRapeVPlayer.esp
B2  LoversRapeStruggle.esp
B3  LoversRapeSlave.esp
B4  LoversAdultYield.esp
B5  LoversMagic.esp
B6  LoversUnicorn.esp
B7  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
B8  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
B9  LST-EURN.esp
BA  LoversPayBanditForSlaver.esp
BB  LoversSkirtFlipper.esp
BC  LoversImmoralGuards.esp
BD  LoversImmoralSisters.esp
BE  LoversNecrophilia.esp
BF  LoversBackup2.esp
C0  LoversCalm.esp
C1  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]
C2  LoversMB2.esp
C3  LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
C4  Werewolf-Legends.esp
C5  CB-DepositsForges.esp
++  CB-OOO_BuckGlue.esp
C6  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.3]
C7  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.1]
C8  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 2.5]
C9  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]
CA  SetBody.esp
CB  MidasSpells.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseA00 Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
CC  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
CD  Sharingan and Uchiha Clan.esp
CE  X.Races.Comp.esp
CF  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
D0  Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
D1  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
D2  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.2.3]
++  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
D3  Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
++  Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
D4  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
D5  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 4.9.8]
D6  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 5.0.8]
D7  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.0.0]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.1.0]
D8  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
D9  Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
DA  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
DB  Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
DC  Better Imperial City - OMG.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
DD  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 5.0.0]
DE  Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
DF  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
E0  Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp  [Version 4.8.4]
E1  CLS-Craftybits.esp
++  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
E2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
E3  Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp
E4  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
E5  Lovers3dorgasm.esp
E6  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
E7  RaceCompatibilityForEurn.esp
E8  Specialanims.esp
E9  Merged Plugin.esp
EA  zBUArmors.esp

 

 

 

So there's my load order, I know it works fine with FCOM, Lovers, Better Cities and Unique Landscapes (which is my back up data file) but if any one can see anything obvious, I'd be eternally grateful. Also, the merged plugin at the end is just clothes and armor addons, merged using gecko. (disabling this has no effect on my ability to start a game...)

 

edit: forgot to mention, i've done the basic checks. fresh ini files, running with no background programs, no save games that could be interfering, ran with only bethesda esm/esp files and it works (so it's not the install itself...)

[gregathit]

It "may" be undies underneath as that can jack with all of the set body mods and even lovers depending on the settings.

 

1. First unzip undies underneath to a temp location and make certain that you remove "all" parts of it from your game. Then try starting a new game.

 

2. If that fails the disable all non fcom mods and try starting a new game.

 

3. I might have missed seeing any UOP - if you don't have that installed then you need the Kt custom race fix (UOP has this built in) or custom races won't work.