WolfGear Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Hi! I created this topic to ask for help, because I'm a little stuck with the Brotherhood of Steel . This is what happens, I managed to enter the Institute, I already completed several quest, but I arrived at the quest of "Mass Fusion", the problem is that I had not completed the quest "Tour of Duty", however I have already obtained their quest "Spoil of war", so it didn't let me introduce myself with Ingram, because she gave me the aforementioned quest, "Spoil of War", so I used some codes to complete it the "Tour of Duty", however, I haven't received any other mission but "Spoil of War", and I can't talk with Teagan, nor with Quinlan, because both tell me to finish introducing myself to the others. And! as you know, if I complete either of the two missions, "Mass Fusion" or "Spoil of War" I become an enemy of the other faction, but I still want to discover that Danse is a synth (yes, inadvertently I saw spoilers of that), but I guess I can't get it without completing the other quests, however, I wanted to betray the brotherhood after releasing Danse from them, but I want to be friend of the Institute, so I can't do the "Spoil of War" quest to continue. What can I do?! ? I leave you a Paladin Danse dancing
AWP3RATOR Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Both "Mass Fusion" and "Spoils of War" are decision point quests. The game will tell you this prior to engaging in one or the other's activity - because you have to choose a side. Choosing that side will make you an enemy of the other, and close off their quest lines. Blind Betrayal is the Danse identity side quest for BoS To set that quest up, the player must have spoken to Ingram or Sturges, gotten the network scanner, run the network scan on the Institute network and returned the data to Ingram. Additionally, this quest comes up after Liberty Reprimed, if the first condition was met. If the player is enemies with the BoS, this quest will not come up. It is not possible to stay friendly (to knowledge) with both the Institute and BoS after Mass Fusion/Spoils of War.
Guest Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 2 hours ago, WolfGear said: Hi! I created this topic to ask for help, because I'm a little stuck with the Brotherhood of Steel . This is what happens, I managed to enter the Institute, I already completed several quest, but I arrived at the quest of "Mass Fusion", the problem is that I had not completed the quest "Tour of Duty", however I have already obtained their quest "Spoil of war", so it didn't let me introduce myself with Ingram, because she gave me the aforementioned quest, "Spoil of War", so I used some codes to complete it the "Tour of Duty", however, I haven't received any other mission but "Spoil of War", and I can't talk with Teagan, nor with Quinlan, because both tell me to finish introducing myself to the others. And! as you know, if I complete either of the two missions, "Mass Fusion" or "Spoil of War" I become an enemy of the other faction, but I still want to discover that Danse is a synth (yes, inadvertently I saw spoilers of that), but I guess I can't get it without completing the other quests, however, I wanted to betray the brotherhood after releasing Danse from them, but I want to be friend of the Institute, so I can't do the "Spoil of War" quest to continue. What can I do?! ? I leave you a Paladin Danse dancing Create a hard save, then do both, reverting to the save after completing one.
WolfGear Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 3 hours ago, AWP3RATOR said: Both "Mass Fusion" and "Spoils of War" are decision point quests. The game will tell you this prior to engaging in one or the other's activity - because you have to choose a side. Choosing that side will make you an enemy of the other, and close off their quest lines. Blind Betrayal is the Danse identity side quest for BoS To set that quest up, the player must have spoken to Ingram or Sturges, gotten the network scanner, run the network scan on the Institute network and returned the data to Ingram. Additionally, this quest comes up after Liberty Reprimed, if the first condition was met. If the player is enemies with the BoS, this quest will not come up. It is not possible to stay friendly (to knowledge) with both the Institute and BoS after Mass Fusion/Spoils of War. So, you mean that no matter what, the quest "Spoils of War" is before I get the quest where I discover that Danse is a synth? ? 2 hours ago, RussianPrince said: Create a hard save, then do both, reverting to the save after completing one. How does this work? Wouldn't it be the same as not doing the quest?
AWP3RATOR Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, WolfGear said: So, you mean that no matter what, the quest "Spoils of War" is before I get the quest where I discover that Danse is a synth? ? How does this work? Wouldn't it be the same as not doing the quest? Ok, I looked this up - I was mistaken (must have been how I was doing my playthrough).... Officially, the questline for BoS is: Reveille/Fire Support (depends on conditions) Call to Arms Semper Invicta Shadow of Steel Tour of Duty Show No Mercy From Within Outside the Wire Liberty Reprimed Blind Betrayal <--- Danse identity quest Tactical Thinking Spoils of War <--- decision to support Brotherhood of Steel and make Institute an enemy Vs the Institute line: Synth Retention The Battle for Bunker Hill <--- make the correct choice and dialogue here with Father Mass Fusion <--- decision to support the Institute and make BoS an enemy It is possible to do either quest line up to Spoils of War or Mass Fusion and ignore the other. So you can friends with both, spying for both, whatever you like - but you WILL have to decide which to support one way or another. It is optionally possible to ignore both and still complete the main story by supporting the Minutemen or Railroad - but following either of these two will make the Institute hostile and potentially Brotherhood, depending on choices. Finally, it's possible to get "peace" between Minutemen, Brothehood, and Railroad - it's more complicated, but argueably a better outcome. It seems like this is through a series of holes in the quest design, but it's valid - nonetheless. https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/458604254453010183/
AWP3RATOR Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 It should be noted though, that if you save Danse and keep him around - then later betray the Brotherhood - Danse will attack you on sight. Since he is protected, he cannot be killed, except by the player. A bit of a hole in the game logic here - but there it is
WolfGear Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, AWP3RATOR said: Ok, I looked this up - I was mistaken (must have been how I was doing my playthrough).... Officially, the questline for BoS is: Reveille/Fire Support (depends on conditions) Call to Arms Semper Invicta Shadow of Steel Tour of Duty Show No Mercy From Within Outside the Wire Liberty Reprimed Blind Betrayal <--- Danse identity quest Tactical Thinking Spoils of War <--- decision to support Brotherhood of Steel and make Institute an enemy Vs the Institute line: Synth Retention The Battle for Bunker Hill <--- make the correct choice and dialogue here with Father Mass Fusion <--- decision to support the Institute and make BoS an enemy It is possible to do either quest line up to Spoils of War or Mass Fusion and ignore the other. So you can friends with both, spying for both, whatever you like - but you WILL have to decide which to support one way or another. It is optionally possible to ignore both and still complete the main story by supporting the Minutemen or Railroad - but following either of these two will make the Institute hostile and potentially Brotherhood, depending on choices. Finally, it's possible to get "peace" between Minutemen, Brothehood, and Railroad - it's more complicated, but argueably a better outcome. It seems like this is through a series of holes in the quest design, but it's valid - nonetheless. https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/458604254453010183/ but the problem here, is that now I have both quest, the BoS and Institute one, but I can't get the rest of the quest of the BoS just for this, there's a way to remove both quest or just the BoS one to keep with the quest line? Maybe with some console command? Dx
AWP3RATOR Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 You cannot really remove a quest once it starts. You can however start others with console. To complete Tour of Duty and force all objectives complete, run the following in console: (no parenthesis) setstage 537fc 10 (stats quest if not started) setstage 537fc 20 (Meet Proctor Teagan) setstage 537fc 30 (Meet Proctor Quinlan) setstage 537fc 40 (Meet Knight Captain Cade) setstage 537fc 50 (Complete Quest) Once you complete Tour of Duty, you should be able to start Show No Mercy by talking to Elder Maxson. This is a quest to clean out Fort Strong and recover Fat Man shells. If you have done this quest, skip this. If not... talk to Maxson. If talking to Maxson does not work: setstage 537ff 10 Note you may have bugged things up a bit somehow. Starting quests via console is not usually recommended. However, in your case the NPCs involved may be in a loop where you can only get certain dialogues from them - related to Spoils of War. LIke when you talk to Maxson, he may force greet you and ask why you are still on the Prydwyn, don't you have a mission to do? etc.
Guest Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 7 hours ago, WolfGear said: So, you mean that no matter what, the quest "Spoils of War" is before I get the quest where I discover that Danse is a synth? ? How does this work? Wouldn't it be the same as not doing the quest? yeah but you get the experience of doing it
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