shinderhizzle84 Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 So I'm assuming that this guide that I followed is outdated or whatever, or I'm just completely blind and aren't using the correct load order. I'm 99.9% sure this is an issue with my load order but I can't for the life of me figure out why Oblivion keeps on crashing at startup at the Bethesda loading screen, so I'd appreciate it if any of you guys who actually know what they're talking about can help me out. Here is my current load order. I tried following the exact load order as the guide that I used (which can be found at http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11051) but I think I must have mis-read his final load order or something because it didn't work, so then I just let wrye bash handle my load order and I'm still running into the same problem. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Lovers with PK.esm 03 x117race.esm 04 Chanpon.esm 05 DLCShiveringIsles.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 06 LoversFSE.esp 07 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 08 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 09 LoversRaperS.esp 0A Lovers with PK.esp [Version 90] 0B LoversAdultYield.esp 0C LoversMagic.esp 0D DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 0E Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 0F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Ashara's Sirens and Tritons.esp 10 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 11 Lop-ears Elf.esp 12 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 13 AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp 14 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 15 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp If anyone can help me out that'd be great. Thanks so much!
Lucherenren Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 First off, a few questions... - Are you starting Oblivion from Bash, or something else such as OBSE, or OBMM (in one of its various incarnations)? - Which release or version of Bash are you using? The latest is notoriously unreliable. Are you running on XP, Vista or Seven?... Also, I see Ashara's ESP in there, do you actually plan to use it?
shinderhizzle84 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Posted October 7, 2012 First off' date=' a few questions... - [b']Are you starting Oblivion from Bash, or something else such as OBSE, or OBMM (in one of its various incarnations)?[/b] - Which release or version of Bash are you using? The latest is notoriously unreliable. Are you running on XP, Vista or Seven?... Also, I see Ashara's ESP in there, do you actually plan to use it? Oops Forgot about starting from OBSE. I am running Windows 7 and I did not know what Ashara's ESP was but I saw it in the guide so I just downloaded it anyways. I can take it out, since I don't actually know if I plan on using it. I am using the latest release of Wrye Bash, but I will come back and edit this post after I try launching from OBSE. Thanks for the reminder EDIT: So I tried launching from OBSE and it's still a no go. Question about Wrye--when I load up either Wrye or OBMM it uses the load order that I just copied and pasted in the OP. But when I load the Oblivion Launcher and check out my 'data files' it has a completely different order. Is this normal, or is this an indication that the load order that I have set in both Wrye and OBMM is not actually being used when I load Oblivion?
gregathit Posted October 7, 2012 Posted October 7, 2012 Ok, lets stop and back up a bit: Don't "ever" use the oblivion launcher to launch your game or mess with your load order! It rewrites your oblivion.ini file which can screw you over big time if you install a mod that changes it. Next, if you have properly installed OBSE (to the oblivion folder where your game exe files is) and you are using Wrye Bash to launch your game it will fire up OBSE without you having to do anything else. The reason that OBMM and Wrye were made was because the launcher is a piece of junk. Don't use it or trust it. Now as to the mods you have enabled: Lovers Magic - looking at the readme it is recommends you install: Lovers creatures, LoversRapeSlave, lovers prostitute, Lovers Joburg, Mad Companionship Spells, MCS extension and Universal Silent Voice. It doesn't "look" like these are requirements but it is hard to tell with the machine translation. I see you have a male body mod, did you not install a female one? If you just installed the meshes and textures loose in the correct location, that works fine as long as you archive invalidated via bsa redirection. To find out if one of the lovers mods is the culprit, disable all of them via Wrye Bash and try to start the game. Then enable them a few at a time to see what is causing the CTD.
shinderhizzle84 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Posted October 7, 2012 Right. So I re-installed HGEC from The Oblivion Nexus and then I re-did my bashed patch. I also disabled all of my lover's plugins, including the two base plugins themselves (the resource pack and the other one whose name I can't remember off of the top of my head). Oblivion is still crashing, so now I'm not sure what to think at all. I've run this very same copy of Oblivion on this very computer ALL of the time and my computer is running fine. Am I missing something in my load order that is just super obvious? Here's what I'm going with at this point: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 x117race.esm 03 Chanpon.esm 04 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 05 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 06 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 07 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp 08 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp 09 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp 0A Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp 0B Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp 0C Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 0D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp 0E x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp 0F Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp 10 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp 11 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp 12 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 13 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp 14 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 15 x117race.esp 16 x117Race ENG Race.esp 17 Lop-ears Elf.esp
gregathit Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Ok, try this, disable everything except these two: Oblivion.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Now try to start the game and see if you crash.
Lucherenren Posted October 8, 2012 Posted October 8, 2012 Something was most likely up with the load order, but this should allow you to sort out what mod, or mods, are misbehaving. Small question, did you run into any trouble while installing some of those mods via OBMM? Its recent spinoffs feel a bit... fragile, in my opinion (since OMOD2 came around, at least).
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