DutchTrunks Posted June 17, 2018 Posted June 17, 2018 Hey everyone, first post from someone who's only been around here for a month or two. So after two days of struggling with downloading, installing and fidgeting with my mods, I got all I currently have installed to work perfectly. That is, up until the point I started a new game. Wanted to try a different approach, harder game, Wildling-approach etc. Anywho, what I noticed straight away as my new game started was that, for some particular reason, my Creature Framework didn't recognize a single creature anymore. Also couldn't find a single animation, all of which worked perfectly on my former save, in the SA Loader anymore. Went over various topics on this forum already, having tried things as reinstalls, reorganizing load orders, etc. Would really appreciate some help here. Considering if I should just completely remove Skyrim from Steam, clear any lingering files, and switch from NMM to MO2 -- but I'd rather avoid that for now, having already fueled some good energy in setting this up so far (and getting it to work before!). ---------------------------------------------- Using: Latest SKSE Latest FNIS Latest SexLab Basically everything below, latest version I could find. ---------------------------------------------- Load list (LOOT): Note: Toggled off things are toggled off because I was trying various steps found online. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Falskaar.esm 6 6 RaceCompatibility.esm 7 7 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 SexLab.esm 10 a ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm 11 b daymoyl.esm 12 c Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 13 d CRB.esm 14 e Havok Breast Physic.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 f TaraUltimateFurniturePack.esm 16 10 CreatureFramework.esm 17 11 Wildlings.esm 18 12 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 19 13 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 20 14 RaceMenu.esp 21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 22 16 UIExtensions.esp 23 17 SkyUI.esp 24 18 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 25 19 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 26 1a Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 27 1b Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 28 1c Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 29 1d Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp 30 1e Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 31 1f SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 32 20 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 33 21 SOSRaceMenu.esp xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 34 22 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 35 23 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 36 24 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 37 25 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp 38 26 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp 39 27 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 40 28 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 41 29 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 42 2a RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 43 2b HentaiCreatures.esp 44 2c FNISspells.esp 45 2d Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 46 2e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 47 2f NibblesAnimObjects.esp 48 30 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp 49 31 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 50 32 SLALAnimObj.esp 51 33 RLO - Interiors.esp 52 34 RLO - Exteriors.esp 53 35 Havok Breast Physic.esp 54 36 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 55 37 Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp 56 38 Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp 57 39 RLO - Effects.esp DeviouslyHelpless.esp 58 3a zzArmormashups.esp 59 3b Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 60 3c Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 61 3d High Level Enemies - SIC.esp 62 3e High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp 63 3f FNIS.esp 64 40 XPMSE.esp 65 41 RND_AnimalLoot.esp 66 42 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 67 43 Prison.esp 68 44 SlaveTats.esp 69 45 SOS - Shop.esp 70 46 MoreNastyCritters.esp 71 47 BDIC.esp 72 48 BDVanillaCritters.esp 73 49 dc-untamed-000.esp 74 4a dc-untamed-100-stfu-wolf.esp 75 4b dc-untamed-100-stfu-spriggan.esp 76 4c SimpleSlavery.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp Deviously Enslaved.esp 77 4d BeastessLair.esp 78 4e KS Hairdo's.esp ---------------------------------------------- Mod List: Working on getting one for y'all. Probably various other things that aren't listed above, as I'm not sure if LOOT recognized those I had disabled at the time of running LOOT. Some manual stuff I can list real quick: Normal-ish stuff: Latest SKSE XP32 - the maximum skeleton enhanced one or smth. XPMSE iirc. Climates of Tamriel RLO RealVision CBBE/Bodyslide Demoniac Textures KS Hairdos SUM RaceMenu + ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer Various armour-reworks Wildlings-race + CRD + Race Compatibility and fixes Skyrim Immersive Creatures + High Level spawns Creature Framework NetImmer..somethingie JContainers SlutTats or whatever it was called NSFW-ish stuff: SexLab Framework 1.62 SexLab Animation Loader 1.5 SexLab Aroused Redux SexLab Aroused Creatures v04.00 06 SexLab Submit 01SEP14 1133 SexLab Defeat 5.3.5 SexLab Beastess + Missing Behaviour + Beastess Lairs SexLab Kidnapped Redux SexLab Tools 3.0 SexLab Solutions 5.0.7 SLDialogs 31 SexLab Werewolves SexLab Cumshot SexLab Shrines More Nasty Critters All the Bad Dog SLA ones, like Werewolf/Hentai Schlongs of Skyrim Animated Prostitution - Skyrim (Think I disabled this one, but was getting errors in FNIS with it not recognizing various AP-animations already part of naked SexLab) Animation Packs: (Shoutout to all you amazing creators and those who helped them. I stand in awe at what you've all made) Anubs FunnyBizness' stuff Billyy's whole set AnimationsByLeito MoreNastyCreatures (dumping it again here, 'cause I see it pop up in Python so.. why not) NibbleAnims Zaz- ^ The ones I can name now. Working on making a backup of my current mod-list with NMM, will update once I can access my full list again. ^ ---------------------------------------------- EDIT: Hrrmmm... Somehow, throughout my tinkering today, I've now managed to screw up Skyrim's 'choice of lighing'. Wherever I go, the game constantly cycles through... wekk,,, bright-day > late eve > deep night > repeat. EDIT 2: Oh, I just noticed my XPMSE got moved up some, always had it last in the load order. Not that it's of any importance in this particular case. P.S.: Can't seem to find my Papyrus log file anywhere.. Have changed my skyrim.ini, the one in the 'My Games > Skyrim' folder referenced here-and-there. ---------------------------------------------- What I -HAVE- done: - Checked if all animation-packs are recognized in SLAnimsGenerate/SLAnimsGenerateForMNCv11 (not sure why there are two, but 'built' both) - Disabled all Sexlab/Devious Devices/additional mods > save game with all disabled > reinstall latest SexLabs > Install SexLabs - Uninstalled all Bad Dog/Immersive Creatures/MNC mods, reinstalled. Then started a new game with only my basic non-sexlabby mods on (Graphics, outfit replacers, hair, stuff like that still on, nothing that really gets used by what I have installed I'm sure) - Cried a little - Run LOOT, read over it with lack of what to look for but... it seemed to have moved some mods around (Could have also been BOSS, but that program recommended me to use LOOT so I did afterwards) - Probably a few other small things I can't recall now. Any help is already greatly appreciated, and I will listen to your every word with care. Also open to being convinced on doing that clean (re)install and switching to Mod Organizer 2. Just not looking forward to having to redownload every mod, for obvious reasons, but hey... lost time vs fun gained later = fun wins in the end. Thanks in advance, kind regards, all that stuff ^^ UPDATES: 18/06: Earlier Lighting/Alternating Darkness/Brightness issues seem resolved. Probably a loading error that BOSS/LOOT took care off (if they can do that?)
Guest Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 Trying to read this from my phone, but are you saying that the MNC is not working?
DutchTrunks Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 It's not registering a single creature in the Mod-manager windows of Creature Framework. It's also not showing a single animation in the SLAnims tab. They all just never showed up there when I started a new game, none of the animations also available. Think I DID actually see animal-schlongs present on wolves so that seems to still work. Most likely going to uninstall Skyrim, clear up any lingering files, and just start from scrap. Using Mod Organizer this time, and I'll have to see if I first only install all stuff for my sexy needs and THEN go about tweaking the game with stuff like RLO/Climates, Caliente's/HDT stuff, etc... or I do it the other way around: First install all things I want like RLO/Climates, Camping etc. AFTER WHICH i'll install and set up all the sexy stuff.
DutchTrunks Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Closing the thread soon, once I've found the button for that. I'll do a complete clean install of Skyrim and slowly rebuild my game from scrap. Realize this'll be far easier than trying to fix this... well.. what's likely become a bit of a mess of downloads/edits. Got a good list of all mods I'll use, will not add to them and only update them once they're all set up so.. that should hopefully keep me safe and happy playing for some time to come. Fingers crossed all will work well. Hope I'm right assuming it's best to first set up the body freshly after install, all in Mod Organizer 2 this time, then set up SexLab in some.. sort of test room (hopefully I can spawn NPCs in there so I can test animations on them)... Then go from SexLab to implementing things like Beastess/Untamed/Ravenbeak Prison or Sanguine Debauched one by one. Slow steps, test in-game after each one or two mods added so it'll be easy tracing back steps would errors occur. Anyone got some tips on how to set up a good testing area for that? I have mostly been usng the room I spawn in using Life Another Live -- empty and devoid of npcs as it seems to be -- but haven't really checked out console commands available or mods that add a testing room. Saw something about SexLab having a 'coc something' console command to teleport to such a room? Heck... I'm even going to keep a log (notepad) and write down the steps I do. Should make future troubleshooting easier. Pardon my current inexperience at this all, haha
Guest Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 20 hours ago, DutchTrunks said: Closing the thread soon, once I've found the button for that. I'll do a complete clean install of Skyrim and slowly rebuild my game from scrap. Realize this'll be far easier than trying to fix this... well.. what's likely become a bit of a mess of downloads/edits. Got a good list of all mods I'll use, will not add to them and only update them once they're all set up so.. that should hopefully keep me safe and happy playing for some time to come. Fingers crossed all will work well. Hope I'm right assuming it's best to first set up the body freshly after install, all in Mod Organizer 2 this time, then set up SexLab in some.. sort of test room (hopefully I can spawn NPCs in there so I can test animations on them)... Then go from SexLab to implementing things like Beastess/Untamed/Ravenbeak Prison or Sanguine Debauched one by one. Slow steps, test in-game after each one or two mods added so it'll be easy tracing back steps would errors occur. Anyone got some tips on how to set up a good testing area for that? I have mostly been usng the room I spawn in using Life Another Live -- empty and devoid of npcs as it seems to be -- but haven't really checked out console commands available or mods that add a testing room. Saw something about SexLab having a 'coc something' console command to teleport to such a room? Heck... I'm even going to keep a log (notepad) and write down the steps I do. Should make future troubleshooting easier. Pardon my current inexperience at this all, haha Sorry so late getting back at you, good luck, did you try re install thru the mcm for creature framework ?
Uncle64 Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 I hope you have not used BOSS on that loadorder since it is terrible. You also MUST install the mods in correct order, you cant trow them in. Use LOOT let it sort your mods, copy the loadorder from it and paste the new load here in one spoiler post.
DutchTrunks Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Hey you two, thanks for checking in. I've went with a clean install of Skyrim, and spent some hours carefully installing mods in a logical order, only doing about 2-3 mods at a time -- after which I load the game, check if all their features work well. And yes, I quickly discovered BOSS isn't a good option, relying on LOOT to sort through my mods there. I'll dump a load-order list in here once I'm done setting up my game as I like it. Currently, all non-adultish mods are set up and working just fine. One minor issue is having a few outfits appear as either 'invisible' in-game (making the one wearing it have an invis body), but that's about it -- something that wouldn't be hard to fix if only I can see why my Bodyslide changes haven't affected it. All armours that got replaced with a Vanilla Replacer mod work well, everything I want to bounce bounces, textures looking mint etc.
DutchTrunks Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Got a question though... Using MO2, should I copy certain things from MO2's folder to Skyrim's actual Data-folder? Doubt that's true, but it seemed necessary moving XP32's skeleton nif there for chars to stop having crushed breasts/tushies. (Yes, wasn't NOT applying FNIS after changes/new additions or toggling the SKELETON FIX it comes with).
Uncle64 Posted June 18, 2018 Posted June 18, 2018 If you are using MO2 then it is more easy. In mo you have profiles for the play you set up. Hope you have done one new profile and dont use default profile. In the profile you created for your new char, assume you start new, most easy to do. You have 2 text files there, one is for left side, if you read it your will se that it sorts wrong way, no problem to read if you know how. And the one called loadorder is, you guess it, your loadorder. Post those 2 here. modlist.txt is your left side.
DutchTrunks Posted June 18, 2018 Author Posted June 18, 2018 Sure. Posting both of how far I got now. Thanks much already for offering your assistance! Quite sure I made a new profile, or.. well.. now I totally hope I did. And yes, I did of course start on a new char, easiest way indeed setting up mods from scrap. Anywhooo... Files! EDIT: Snap.. Noticed they were placed in the 'Default' folder. This going to be an issue? Modlist: # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. +Creature Framework +[SexLab] Sexualized True Wolves of Skyrim for MNC +HentaiCreatures MNCv11 1D +MoreNastyCritters v11 1G +SexLabAroused V28b +SexLab +SexLabFramework v162 FULL +RutahTattooPack v1d0 +NetImmerse Override v +RaceCompatibility with fixes +Fuz Ro Doh +CRB +Wildlings +SlaveTats-anal +SlaveTats-slut +SlaveTats +JContainers -KJ Lore Tattoos 4K +KJ Tattoos 4K +skse 1 07 03 +Falskaar V1 2 1final +Campfire 1.11 +KS Hairdos - HDT Physics +ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller +Frostfall 3.4 Release +High Level Enemies - SIC Edition +Skyrim Immersive Creatures +Death Alternative - Your Money Or Your Life +Pelts of Skyrim +PELTAPALOOZA - FULL +Realistic Needs and Diseases +Realistic Wildlife Loot and Recipes +1 Pure Waters Legendary 5.0 +Drinking Fountains of Skyrim +XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended +BodySlide and Outfit Studio +Vanilla Replacer +Immersive Armors +FNIS Spells V5 0 1 -- ADD-ON for the spells +FNIS Creature Pack +FNIS Behavior +HDT Physics Extensions +HDT Bounce and Jiggles 8.0- HDT Havok Object +Bounce and Jiggles 8.0 - Fair Skin Complexion Wet Patch CBBE +Bounce and Jiggles 8.0a - CBBE Curvy HDT With HDT Vagina - Mesh Only +Bounce and Jiggles 8.0 BM2 Reduced TBBP Belly +Bounce and Jiggles 8.0 Reduced TBBP Belly +Demoniac_Texture +Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- +RaceMenu +New Beginnings -- Live Another Life Extension +Alternate Start - Live Another Life +Realistic Lighting Overhaul (RLO) Oldrim All-In-One Installer +Climates Of Tamriel-V +COMPLETE FULL +UIExtensions +SkyUI +Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch +Realistic Force *DLC: Dawnguard *DLC: Dragonborn *DLC: HearthFires Load Order: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm Campfire.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm Falskaar.esm daymoyl.esm RaceCompatibility.esm CRB.esm Wildlings.esm SkyUI.esp UIExtensions.esp FNIS.esp FNISspells.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp RLO - Effects.esp RLO - Exteriors.esp RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp RLO - Interiors.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp High Level Enemies - SIC.esp High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp Purewaters.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Realistic Wildlife Loot - Reduced.esp Frostfall.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp KJ Tattoos 4K.esp SlaveTats.esp RutahTattooPack.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp SexLabTools.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp XPMSE.esp
Uncle64 Posted June 19, 2018 Posted June 19, 2018 Ok. So you did find them in default. Was suspecting that. What you do now is create one new profile in MO, make sure that you click following boxes in the editor there you make profiles and remove them. "Local Savegames" that allows you to separate all saves and you will not use your document folder. "Automatic Arcive Invalidation" Dont remember what it do, but it is important. Did check your load orders and those are way off, what LOOT do you use? Dont use the one that comes whith MO it is terrible outdated, and cant sort new mods correct, always use this LOOT. https://github.com/loot Your left side must be close to your right side, you need to manually sort it. If you have RaceMenu installed you dont need NetImmerse. When you use BodySlide to make bodys, press CTRL for putting the output from it to one own folder. That you have created your self in MO\modfolder etc. All files that SKSE puts in the mod Overwrite, those can you also place in the same folder. And you put that folder last in your left side.
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