Isafo Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Hey all, recently decided to do another full run of Oblivion with a bunch of new mods installed. I think I may have went a little too crazy with them because after being told to track down the Mythic Dawn Commentaries, my game crashes to desktop upon fast traveling or entering any other area other then the Arch Mages lobby or Arcane University. I disabled just about every non-essential esp I could to try and find the culprit but no luck. Load Order Oblivion.esm Cobl Main.esm Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm LoversCreature.esm Race Repository.esm CM Partners.esm IceElfRace.esm ScreenEffects.esm Hair Style Master.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp personality_idles2.esp ScreenControls.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp CapesandCloaks.esp Chapel Shop.esp Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp Diano.esp DMCWeapons.esp Kitsune.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp XSPipeMod.esp Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp Triss Armor Retextured.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp Vaernlor Manor.esp Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp BladeSong.esp Abriael_Human.esp GP_Moretta.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp MABlueMoonCottage.esp RetburyVillage.esp Rise Of A Samurai.esp Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp HeartOftheDead.esp Castle_Almgard-V2.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBed.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp SetBody.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp DRSplatter.esp babehair_EV.esp babehair_DV.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp CM Partners.esp Anwolf Race.esp Blood Elves.esp Kaleencolors.esp Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp Nec-Character_Clair.esp Nec-Character_Karla.esp DemonRace.esp Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp SuccubusRace.esp CM Partners Friska.esp ambreskav02.esp ambreskav02_default_anim.esp CMpartnerTifa.esp CM Partner Triss.esp KaleenCMAmelia.esp Terimer.esp 1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp LakesideHome.esp Aliyah.esp ArianaTrudeaux.esp Companion_Ab_Human_4.esp Saerileth.esp Tamara.esp DAClair.esp DATalitha.esp DAFeria.esp DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp DAKaleahSuccubus.esp Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp DANecsKarla.esp DATiamsGirls.esp Cobl Races.esp UVII.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Night Elves Exnem.esp SD2011.esp RISA.esp CM Blood Elves.esp HugTouch.esp NudeShy.esp CMSuccubusSS&L.esp Also, despite seeing many people warning against keeping auto save after travel, wait etc on, I kept it enabled anyway, don't think that would cause such consistent crashes though. Any help would be appreciated.
Ark of Truth Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Your load order is completely messed up. You will have to wait for someone more experienced in load orders to come and help you out.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 First thing first, disable the fast travel auto save and see if it works. It's an easy debug anyone can do, so do it. Past that I'm not going to be awake long enough to look thru the load order, however odds are it's due to conflicting mods which come into play pretty much anywhere than those two places. Also try to fast travel to random places in the world, for example the exit from the intro dungeon since almost no mods edit that, and see if you still crash. Also, use the oblivion mod managers conflict detector and see what it pulls up in the way of conflicting mods.
gregathit Posted October 5, 2012 Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, to start with is this a duplicate: ambreskav02.esp ambreskav02_default_anim.esp Make sure you can have both installed and were not supposed to just use one or the other. I am certain these are duplicates: babehair_EV.esp babehair_DV.esp One (EV) is the english version and one (DV) is the german version. Pick only one or the other and not both. Next, make the bottom of your load order look like this: UVII.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp <----where is this?????? Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp Do not allow any mods to be below these as they can override their scripts and break things. Next, move all of your companion and clothing\armor mods up in your load order (just under Castle Almgard should be fine). Next, DO disable save on fast travel and for the love of all that is holy please turn off autosaves and NEVER quicksave. If making manual saves (hitting the escape button and selecting new save) is too bothersome just grab "streamline" from the nexus as it has an autosave feature that won't crash or corrupt your game\saves. Once you make those changes, try things out and see if that fixes anything. If not then repost your load order and we can go from there. Cheers, Greg
Isafo Posted October 9, 2012 Author Posted October 9, 2012 Didn't know my load order was so messed up, I've always used BOSS to sort it out. Is this any better? Oblivion.esm Cobl Main.esm Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Lovers with PK.esm BreakUndies.esm LoversCreature.esm Race Repository.esm CM Partners.esm IceElfRace.esm ScreenEffects.esm Hair Style Master.esm DLCShiveringIsles.esp Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp personality_idles2.esp ScreenControls.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp CapesandCloaks.esp Chapel Shop.esp Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp Diano.esp Kitsune.esp Slof's Boners! v5.esp XSPipeMod.esp Triss Armor Retextured.esp AncientTowers.esp DLCThievesDen.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp Vaernlor Manor.esp Imperial Furniture Renovated.esp BladeSong.esp Abriael_Human.esp GP_Moretta.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp MABlueMoonCottage.esp RetburyVillage.esp Rise Of A Samurai.esp Snow Dragon Temple v1.0.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp Knights.esp Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp HeartOftheDead.esp Castle_Almgard-V2.esp DAJadeAmberSheevaTabaxi.esp DMCWeapons.esp DANecsKarla.esp CM Partners Friska.esp Nec-Character_Karla.esp CM Partner Triss.esp Blood Elves and Egyptian Armors for Exnems body.esp Nec-Elf_Kaleah.esp Aliyah.esp CMSuccubusSS&L.esp CMpartnerTifa.esp Terimer.esp ArianaTrudeaux.esp DATalitha.esp Companion_Ab_Human_4.esp CM Blood Elves.esp Tamara.esp Saerileth.esp DATiamsGirls.esp KaleenCMAmelia.esp DAKaleahSuccubus.esp DAClair.esp ambreskav02.esp DAFeria.esp Nec-Character_Clair.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversBed.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp SetBody.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp DRSplatter.esp babehair_EV.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp CM Partners.esp Anwolf Race.esp Blood Elves.esp Kaleencolors.esp Nec Mystic High Elf-Remake.esp DemonRace.esp Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp DesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.esp SuccubusRace.esp 1em_Vilja_as_Blood_Elf_by_Xtudo.esp LakesideHome.esp Cobl Races.esp Night Elves Exnem.esp SD2011.esp RISA.esp HugTouch.esp NudeShy.esp UVII.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp I tried again with the above load order and auto saves disabled, still crashes to desktop. Started a new save, messed around for about half an hour, went to the arcane university and same thing happens.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 So basically he just didn't bother to read the readmes and installed shit that'd have massive conflicts when activated together.
gregathit Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 One problem you have that is probably the root of most of your crashes is that you have a bunch of CM partner mods that are above their master: CM Partners.esp You need to move CM Partners.esp up in your load order to be "above" all cm partner mods, like CMSuccubusSS&L.esp, CMpartnerTifa.esp and CM Partner Triss.esp to name a few. If you are using BOSS then I don't know why it did not fix that for you. Perhaps when you were shifting stuff about for lovers you forgot to do this. Boss does a decent job with most plugins but is sucks hairy balls with lovers plugins. It puts them in the wrong places and in the wrong order.
Kashiwaba Tomoe Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Last time I had lovers installed BOSS didnt actually fuck anything up, but then I mostly go for RP enhancement mods instead.
gregathit Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Last time I had lovers installed BOSS didnt actually fuck anything up' date=' but then I mostly go for RP enhancement mods instead. [/quote'] Boss does pretty good with most normal mods. It is lovers stuff that it fucks up on.
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