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Hi everybody.

I am having a couple problems, when playing Skyrim with the Skyrim Romance Mod (which can only run with Sex Lab and SOS)  And I really hope, anyone, that is more skilled in modding/using mods than me, can help me ;)

I am experiencing a couple of problems of whom especially two are quite nerving.

First: Bishop is not undressing in the Sex-scenes - ergo making sex with his normal SOS-underware (brown panties) on (which looks quite ridiculus :D). I suppose one problem it is a load order problem. I reinstalled SOS (which is needed for this mod), but then I found out, SOS is not always active - only in a couple of safes, where it says: couldn't find parameters, reinstalling... and so on. After this procedure, SOS is active.

 

But when SOS is active, it causes CTDs, when I am changing cells, after I altered queststages (e.g. after finishing a quest, accepting a quest and so on).

So I suppose  the problems are caused by SOS, but I am not sure.

 

Problems with the load order:

When I start Loot, then Loot is sorting the load order. The problem is: It is sorting not in the recommended Skyrim romance order. But when I try to sort the load order manually, I have some probs in doing so.

The only way I can do it, is in the Skyrim/Steam folder, not in LOOT itself (or maybe I am too stupid :D). But it is not saving my changed load order :(. So my question is: How can I change the load-order permanently in Loot?

 

For your information: I am using a heavy modded game, but it is cleaned with Tes-Edit and is normally working quite stable.

 

Any help is appreciated. Thanx ;)

 

Posted

This is my load-order...

 

  0  0 Skyrim.esm
  1  1 Update.esm
  2  2 Dawnguard.esm
  3  3 HearthFires.esm
  4  4 Dragonborn.esm
  5  5 Falskaar.esm
  6  6 0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(esm).esm
  7  7 Niires Hjerim(esm).esm
  8  8 ApachiiHair.esm
  9  9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
 10  a ApachiiHairMales.esm
 11  b GeneralStores.esm
 12  c hdtHighHeel.esm
 13  d RaceCompatibility.esm
 14  e MontyXRaceCompatabilityMod.esm
 15  f MTAutoStorage.esm
 16 10 OblHairs01.esm
 17 11 OblHairs02.esm
 18 12 OblHairs03.esm
 19 13 OblHairs04.esm
 20 14 OblHairs05.esm
 21 15 OblHairs06.esm
 22 16 OblHairs07.esm
 23 17 SM_Archery_Improved.esm
 24 18 TERAArmors.esm
 25 19 XFLMain.esm
 26 1a SexLab.esm
 27 1b AkaSpouseWardrobe.esp
 28 1c Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 29 1d HighResTexturePack01.esp
 30 1e HighResTexturePack02.esp
 31 1f HighResTexturePack03.esp
 32 20 3DNPC.esp
 33 21 Combat Evolved.esp
 34 22 Niires Hjerim.esp
 35 23 Skyrim Romance Animated.esp
 36 24 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
 37 25 Feminine Females.esp
 38 26 ProudspireManorExtended.esp
 39 27 CynnsHoneyside.esp
 40 28 NicerSeverinManorHF.esp
 41 29 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
 42 2a CompanionsHome.esp
 43 2b Druidessentials.esp
 44 2c Candle Pond Ranch Hearthfire.esp
 45 2d AutumnLodge(FemaleMannequin).esp
 46 2e DragonspireEstate.esp
 47 2f Cloaks.esp
 48 30 mergedhairandpets.esp
 49 31 heartwoodcottageNM1_v2.esp
 50 32 Shout-tastic_no CD.esp
 51 33 LakesideHideaway.esp
 52 34 weapons.esp
 53 35 AyleidPalace.esp
 54 36 BetterMagic_FULL.esp
 55 37 GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell.esp
       OpenHouse-Honeyside.esp
 56 38 Falskaar Amber Cottage.esp
 57 39 White River Cottage.esp
 58 3a HeartOfThunder.esp
 59 3b Elisdriel.esp
 60 3c Svs Collection Jewelry.esp
 61 3d EeveeFox.esp
 62 3e ElysiumEstate.esp
 63 3f AyleidSanctuary.esp
 64 40 Catsofskyrim.esp
 65 41 0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(esp.2.0).esp
 66 42 Beautiful Whiterun.esp
 67 43 ShiverTwitch's Labeled Mines.esp
 68 44 Stoop Vlindrel Hall.esp
 69 45 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
 70 46 0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(Grotto).esp
 71 47 mclothes.esp
 72 48 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
 73 49 itsatrap!.esp
 74 4a hankyench.esp
 75 4b Sneak Tools.esp
 76 4c TheRealFrost.esp
 77 4d UniqueBows.esp
 78 4e Unicorn.esp
 79 4f ConvertUpdate.esp
 80 50 RealisticWhiterun.esp
 81 51 0001BertsBreezehomeRemodel.V.2(Spouse).esp
 82 52 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp
 83 53 TK_Placeable_Clutter.esp
 84 54 0001_Remo's_Display_Spells_Potions.esp
 85 55 01ERA.esp
 86 56 10 extra effect.esp
 87 57 1nivWICCloaks.esp
 88 58 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
 89 59 A Perfect Assasin.esp
 90 5a AKHDTBuckskinLeatherBoots.esp
 91 5b AKHDTLeatherBoots.esp
 92 5c AKLeatherBoots.esp
 93 5d PowerfulMarksman.esp
 94 5e spectral whitebow.esp
 95 5f Alaric-AssasinsBladePlusBows.esp
 96 60 ancient auriel's bow.esp
 97 61 Animated Dragon Wings.esp
 98 62 apachiihair.esp
 99 63 BFFAnimalCompanions.esp
100 64 dawnguard smithing 2.0.esp
101 65 theRoadstrokersRoyalElvenSet.esp
102 66 FriendlyCreaturesv1.1.esp
103 67 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
104 68 My Home Is Your Home.esp
105 69 P1FlyingRing.esp
106 6a SimpleTeleport.esp
107 6b BetterNGA.esp
108 6c Dragonrend.esp
109 6d EnchantmentCleanser.esp
110 6e Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp
111 6f Invisibility Ring Enchantment(lvl 1 restriction).esp
112 70 Invisibility Ring Enchantment(lvl 20 restriction).esp
113 71 SaderHorses.esp
114 72 thu'um infinium.esp
115 73 Silver Arrows and Bolts Mod by Meneldur.esp
116 74 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp
117 75 Archer's.esp
118 76 Ariyan.esp
119 77 Armored Circlets.esp
120 78 ArmorofUlle.esp
121 79 AsharaDimonizedDress.esp
122 7a AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp
123 7b BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
124 7c Convenient Horse Herding.esp
125 7d LB_GroveMatronStaff.esp
126 7e GDElvenScout.esp
127 7f Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE_LL.esp
128 80 SilverBowAndSilverArrows.esp
129 81 BlackUnicorn.esp
130 82 Brows.esp
131 83 Burning Sky.esp
132 84 calyps-investigator.esp
133 85 ConstantEffectRings.esp
134 86 Convenient Horses.esp
135 87 zz_GDRAHoods.esp
136 88 DaedricCrownCraftable.esp
137 89 DeadlyCombat.esp
138 8a DemonHunterArmor.esp
139 8b Divine Aegis Sword.esp
140 8c Divine Aegis.esp
141 8d DragonCrownCraftable.esp
142 8e DragonplateCrown.esp
143 8f DragonPlateCrownCraftable.esp
144 90 Dread Huntress Armor.esp
145 91 DreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp
146 92 DreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.esp
147 93 DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp
148 94 EbonyCrownCraftable.esp
149 95 Elven Archer Armor.esp
150 96 ElvenCrownCraftable.esp
151 97 ElvenWeaponry.esp
152 98 ElvenWeaponryDV.esp
153 99 Elves.esp
154 9a Enchant Plus.esp
155 9b EpicElves by zzjay.esp
156 9c ErynielElfV2.esp
157 9d MeekoVigilanceAreHuskies.esp
158 9e Essential Meeko.esp
159 9f ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp
160 a0 FalskaarDawnguard.esp
161 a1 FamousFollowerThor.esp
162 a2 FasterArrows.esp
163 a3 FasterArrows100.esp
164 a4 Fighting Mage Staff.esp
165 a5 FNISspells.esp
166 a6 GDRangerArmor.esp
167 a7 GDZZJJDH.esp
168 a8 Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp
169 a9 GlassCrownCraftable.esp
170 aa hair2.esp
171 ab HarvestFeathers.esp
172 ac Henrys Ring of Light.esp
173 ad ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp
174 ae Insanity's Silver Bow.esp
175 af Knightranger Archer's Armor.esp
176 b0 LadyKdCirclets.esp
177 b1 LunariRace.esp
178 b2 Magic Arrows v1.2.esp
179 b3 MegaShields.esp
180 b4 MinesOfSkyrim.esp
181 b5 MXFrostElfRaceRedux.esp
182 b6 NeutralHjerim.esp
183 b7 NewmNecklaces2.esp
184 b8 Nicos Craftable Arrows.esp
185 b9 NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp
186 ba NN_ElvishDresses.esp
187 bb Nordic Carved Helm Wigs.esp
188 bc NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp
189 bd ThiefsBarrell.esp
190 be Phenderix Tool - Weapon Edit.esp
191 bf Ranger's Cape.esp
192 c0 Seductress Serana.esp
193 c1 SGHairPack01.esp
194 c2 SGHairPack02.esp
195 c3 SGHairPack03.esp
196 c4 SGHairPack04.esp
197 c5 SGHairPack05.esp
198 c6 SGHairPack06.esp
199 c7 Silvan_Armor.esp
200 c8 Silver Crossbow.esp
201 c9 silverknight.esp
202 ca Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
203 cb SkyUI.esp
204 cc SM_Fire_Arrow.esp
205 cd Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
206 ce Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
207 cf SnowElfCrown.esp
208 d0 SnowWhite Crown.esp
209 d1 SoulMasters_Dawnbreaker.esp
210 d2 SPOAsilvercrossbow.esp
211 d3 SPOA_shield.esp
212 d4 StaffofJealousy.esp
213 d5 TERAArmors.esp
214 d6 The Bow Of The DarkOne.esp
215 d7 The Coenaculi.esp
216 d8 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
217 d9 TheViciousHeart.esp
218 da TK_Clutter_Plants.esp
219 db Toad's Tera.esp
220 dc Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp
221 dd UIExtensions.esp
222 de UltimateCombat.esp
223 df UnechantedItems.esp
224 e0 Unique Uniques.esp
225 e1 UnlockUniqueEnchantments.esp
226 e2 UNP Boots 05.esp
227 e3 UNP Boots 06.esp
228 e4 UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp
229 e5 viciousdawnbreaker.esp
230 e6 wabble.esp
231 e7 WarchiefsMight.esp
232 e8 WhirlwindSprintWithForce.esp
233 e9 Wig.esp
234 ea WyldMenuPlugFemale.esp
235 eb WyldMenuPlugMale.esp
236 ec XFLConfig.esp
237 ed zzTravellerHoods.esp
238 ee KatanaCrafting.esp
239 ef KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
240 f0 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
241 f1 XPMSE.esp
242 f2 FNIS.esp
243 f3 ElvenChainMail.esp
244 f4 KS Jewelry.esp
245 f5 zzDraugrParts.esp
246 f6 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
247 f7 GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp
248 f8 Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp
249 f9 Light Elven Armor.esp
250 fa RaceMenu.esp
251 fb RaceMenuPlugin.esp
252 fc RaceMenuMimic.esp
253 fd SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
254 fe SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

 

Posted
6 hours ago, Elorian53 said:

I am experiencing a couple of problems

USLEEP:

 

The patch is missing in your plugins Load order or I don't see it, and this is an almost inescapable mod requirement for correcting bugs in Skyrim.

 

254 plugins enabled:

 

You are very close to the limit of the number of plugins that skyrim can not exceed (255 esm/esp's) and many modders have encountered problems of instability and/or plugin loading errors during gaming sessions with 254 activated plugins.

 

The only way around this hard limit is to merge mods with tools like Wrye Bash, TES5Edit or Mator's Merge Plugins tool.

Read Merging User Reports to see what plugins are successfuly merged or not.

 

Useful links:

Merge Plugins : Start to Finish

Guide:Merging Plugins

How To Merge Multiple Mods with Multiple Master Files

 

Beware though that merging mods will have an effect on your saved games. Specifically, if you merge two mods that add things like weapons, armor, or hair, they will disappear when you load your save with the merged mod enabled and the old mods disabled. This is because the items copied from the old mods have new FormIDs, and the game won't be able to map the old FormIDs from your save to the new FormIDs from the new plugin. As far as I know this is an engine limitation and there might be no way to prevent it. You'll just have to use the console to add the missing items back to your character or create a new character session savegame.

 

Unchecking unneeded esp:

 

If you are not confident about performing a merge mods, try to deselect some Hairs mod plugins that are supposedly not all required for your character creation, follower mods, etc ... as you have a lot of them loaded in your Mods list.

 

Spoiler

 16 10 OblHairs01.esm
 17 11 OblHairs02.esm
 18 12 OblHairs03.esm
 19 13 OblHairs04.esm
 20 14 OblHairs05.esm
 21 15 OblHairs06.esm
 22 16 OblHairs07.esm

 

193 c1 SGHairPack01.esp
194 c2 SGHairPack02.esp
195 c3 SGHairPack03.esp
196 c4 SGHairPack04.esp
197 c5 SGHairPack05.esp
198 c6 SGHairPack06.esp

 

etc...

 

 

When performing so check if this plugin is not related to one of them, or you'll surely encounter some errors:

6 hours ago, Elorian53 said:

48 30 mergedhairandpets.esp

 

I don't use most of the mods you have, so I wouldn't recommend you an optimal loading order, but see what you can do with LOOT manually. See below:

 

6 hours ago, Elorian53 said:

When I start Loot, then Loot is sorting the load order. The problem is: It is sorting not in the recommended Skyrim romance order. But when I try to sort the load order manually, I have some probs in doing so.

The only way I can do it, is in the Skyrim/Steam folder, not in LOOT itself (or maybe I am too stupid :D). But it is not saving my changed load order :(. So my question is: How can I change the load-order permanently in Loot?

How to force LOOT to sort your plugins:

 

You can force LOOT to sort plugins according to your preferences and keep these settings permanently (or not) by editing the plugin's Metadata. This allow you to set a load order priority and/or to force your said plugin to be loaded after another one in your Load order list. Here's the method for doing so:

 

Spoiler

Open LOOT. Choose in the Load order list the plugin you want to sort, and click on the rightest side pane icon of the selected plugin (three vertical points):

 

LOOT_01.thumb.PNG.50004079c8b66458f6cc0ac97f8cbc4f.PNG

 

A pop-up window will allow you to edit the plugin Metadata, click on Edit Metadata tab:

 

LOOT_02.thumb.PNG.c94a19075655ed4d442db63626c73628.PNG

 

You can now set the plugin' Load order by Priority in the Main column:

 

LOOT_03.thumb.PNG.717da1604711c9d9311b06e1e8c21754.PNG

 

Or by selecting another plugin of your Load order list in the Load After column:

 

LOOT_04.thumb.PNG.963484bf3ab1e249a6dbeebcae11b1bb.PNG

 

Now Save (blue icon) or Undo changes (red icon). Click Sort plugins at the top right pane. Close LOOT and profit.

 

Posted

I have a heavy modded game, too. And i am using sos, sexlab, and skyrim romance, too. No issues on that front.

So, i think your problem is either:

1) You are too close to mod limit (as stated by Fifoo)
2) Load order (as stated by yourself)

3) Mods conflicts 9you need to find one which ones are conflicting, though)

 

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