TentaclesUnleashed Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Hullo, As of late I have been getting this grey face bug. It does not appear when I create a new character, and it appears after a few milliseconds on load (even if the head is first as it should be). A showracemenu doesn't fix it and when modifying the skin color, the head just keeps the same tint. Any idea what it is caused by ? You will find enclosed a screen capture, and my modlist below. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 Havok Breast Physic.esm 9 9 BSAssets.esm 10 a BSHeartland.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c RSkyrimChildren.esm 13 d Heels Sound.esm 14 e JSwords.esm 15 f BS_DLC_patch.esp 16 10 Campfire.esm 17 11 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 18 12 moonpath.esm 19 13 MolagBalsInferno.esm 20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp 21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp 22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp 23 17 Cutting Room Floor.esp 24 18 SkyUI.esp 25 19 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp 26 1a AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 27 1b Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 28 1c Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 29 1d Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 30 1e XPMSE.esp 31 1f TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp 32 20 SGEyebrows.esp 33 21 RLO - Interiors.esp 34 22 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp 35 23 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 36 24 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 37 25 JKs Skyrim.esp 38 26 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 39 27 3DNPC.esp 40 28 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 41 29 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 42 2a Sanctuary Reborn.esp 43 2b Immersive Jewelry.esp 44 2c proudspiremanortnf.esp 45 2d SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp 46 2e Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp 47 2f RLO - Exteriors.esp 48 30 goodbrother.esp 49 31 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 50 32 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 51 33 CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp 52 34 Brows.esp 53 35 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 54 36 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp 55 37 KS Hairdo's.esp 56 38 LindsMerEyes.esp 57 39 Havok Breast Physic.esp 58 3a AchieveThat.esp 59 3b BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 60 3c BSHeartland - Textures.esp 61 3d DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 62 3e LostGrimoire.esp 63 3f SimplyKnock.esp 64 40 zzzSXP.esp 65 41 BNS 51001_GonF.esp 66 42 ORM-Arvak.esp 67 43 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 68 44 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 69 45 FNIS.esp 70 46 OBIS.esp 71 47 OBISDB.esp 72 48 BHTNF_Eli.esp 73 49 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 74 4a Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 75 4b Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp 76 4c Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_v2.1.esp 77 4d Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp 78 4e Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 79 4f aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp 80 50 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 81 51 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 82 52 BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp 83 53 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 84 54 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 85 55 Undeath.esp 86 56 marriagemod - alpha v3.esp 87 57 SOS_RLOInteriors_Patch.esp 88 58 zMirai.esp 89 59 TheChoiceIsYours.esp 90 5a ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp 91 5b SMIM-Merged-NoDragonborn.esp 92 5c RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 93 5d Run For Your Lives.esp 94 5e Cloaks.esp 95 5f fallentreebridges.esp 96 60 BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp 97 61 HarvestOverhaul.esp 98 62 Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp 99 63 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 100 64 RSChildren.esp 101 65 Blaze Of Eventide.esp 102 66 AwpSylvanas.esp 103 67 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 104 68 Differently Ebony.esp 105 69 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 106 6a ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 107 6b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 108 6c ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 109 6d dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 110 6e RLO - Effects.esp 111 6f RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 112 70 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 113 71 Camp_trophies.esp 114 72 RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Sorted.esp 115 73 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 116 74 bdo1.esp 117 75 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 118 76 Celes Nightingale Armor.esp 119 77 Dancing Shadow Rose.esp 120 78 Elvenia.esp 121 79 Gotha Rensa.esp 122 7a hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 123 7b OMageCommonRobesV2.esp 124 7c Quel'Delar - Johnskyrim.esp 125 7d Shalamayne - Johnskyrim.esp 126 7e Ashbringer - Johnskyrim.esp 127 7f 1nivWICCloaks.esp 128 80 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 129 81 RaceMenu.esp 130 82 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 131 83 FreckleMania2.esp 132 84 REP_Tattoos.esp 133 85 Neithteam Warpaint.esp 134 86 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 135 87 BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp 136 88 DaggerCraft.esp 137 89 Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp 138 8a Dual Sheath Redux.esp 139 8b PAN_VampireLeaders.esp 140 8c AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 141 8d Immersive Weapons.esp 142 8e Tentapalooza.esp 143 8f moonpath_questdata.esp 144 90 IMG-Christmas-2016 (1).esp 145 91 Atlas Legendary.esp 146 92 BijinAIO-2016_3.1.1_SV.esp 147 93 Immersive Patrols II.esp 148 94 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 149 95 Immersive Wenches.esp 150 96 Hunterborn.esp 151 97 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 152 98 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 153 99 Skyshards.esp 154 9a Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp 155 9b Killable Children.esp 156 9c DawnguardArsenal.esp 157 9d Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp 158 9e SofiaFollower.esp 159 9f Vigilant.esp 160 a0 SkystoneCastle.esp 161 a1 Tools of Kagrenac.esp 162 a2 RiverwoodKeep.esp 163 a3 Wynter.esp 164 a4 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 165 a5 KNM_Mour.esp 166 a6 Vigilant Voiced.esp 167 a7 Ars Metallica - Legendary Edition.esp 168 a8 HASTE.esp 169 a9 Dr_Bandolier.esp 170 aa DeadlyDragons.esp 171 ab Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 172 ac TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 173 ad RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 174 ae ForgottenCity.esp 175 af Darkend.esp 176 b0 SL99Exchanger.esp 177 b1 KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp 178 b2 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 179 b3 YurianaWench.esp 180 b4 HallsOfDovahndor.esp 181 b5 Dovah Vault.esp 182 b6 ApotheosisDemo.esp 183 b7 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 184 b8 Follower Fever.esp 185 b9 Ciceriareplacor.esp 186 ba AmyMie.esp 187 bb ARTA Follower Aurora.esp 188 bc Chaconne.esp 189 bd Sunsakuka's Follower.esp 190 be Deadly Wenches.esp 191 bf aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 192 c0 isilNarsil.esp 193 c1 Missives.esp 194 c2 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 195 c3 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp 196 c4 RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp 197 c5 Ghosu - Project Flintlock.esp 198 c6 Thunderfury - Johnskyrim.esp 199 c7 Sicarius' Refuge.esp 200 c8 Minerva.esp 201 c9 Shindara.esp 202 ca RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 203 cb Ravengate.esp 204 cc Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 205 cd IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp 206 ce elementalshield.esp 207 cf DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp 208 d0 plunketDnD.esp 209 d1 Shadowmourne - Johnskyrim.esp 210 d2 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 211 d3 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 212 d4 tetro - Lilu.esp 213 d5 ShindaraHeelsOutfit.esp 214 d6 RLO - CRF Patch.esp 215 d7 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 216 d8 Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp 217 d9 Ghosu - Auriel.esp 218 da Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp 219 db Daedric Reaper Armor.esp 220 dc TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 221 dd Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 222 de Dragon Lilly.esp 223 df Unique Uniques.esp 224 e0 WeaponsOf3E.esp 225 e1 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 226 e2 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 227 e3 BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp 228 e4 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp 229 e5 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp 230 e6 Intriguante's Wear NO.esp 231 e7 S7B LB Lady Chaos.esp 232 e8 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 233 e9 Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 234 ea zzArmormashups.esp 235 eb CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 236 ec LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp 237 ed TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 238 ee LB Lady Chaos.esp 239 ef [NINI] Death Lady.esp 240 f0 raeza.esp 241 f1 Lionheart - Johnskyrim.esp 242 f2 SoS_CoT_Patch.esp 243 f3 MiyuLin.esp 244 f4 tetro - Natalie.esp 245 f5 Santanism.esp 246 f6 Moniko.esp 247 f7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 248 f8 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 249 f9 Bruma - Alternate Start.esp 250 fa BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp 251 fb Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Thanks in advance for your time and consideration. 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allsunday Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 This one is going to be tough to figure out but it can be done. You say you get the grey face a moment AFTER creating your new character. This directly means that a mod/plugin is definitely causing it because mods start loading up after creating your character with Alternate Start. It's likely the face color change occurs when a mod plugin gets loaded up. Obviously you knew this which is why you included your load order. So the question is which mod(s)? Well, you can wait hours or days for someone to come up with the right answer or you could simply take less than an hour using the process of elimination disabling plugins and see if the problem still occurs after character creation. Another problem that may cause grey faces is having a bad load order. LOOT is hardly perfect though it tries to be but after using LOOT I always manually sort my load order according to instructions by the mod authors -- which is a bitch because I have 250 plugins.... Anyway, good luck!
Dragonoid Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 Are you using ENB preset? From my experience every time i had this bug it was either shader/lighting problem or mod problem. Similar bug appears to me often in Fallout 4 but i fix it with re-installing body mods.
TentaclesUnleashed Posted February 26, 2018 Author Posted February 26, 2018 Yeah thanks I'll definitely try that. I am not using any ENB (except the ENB wrapper without modification just for the speedhack feature). Also it does not appear on new characters at all, only on my old playsave. I suspect it could be related to Apachii Divine Elegance Store because it happened roughly when I entered the shop. But disabling it didn't change anything. Could there be remnants from that mod polluting my character ? I tried savegame cleaner just in case but no result either. Anyways, as you suggested, I will try disabling the mods one by one ! Thanks !
Guest Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 Have you made and changes to mods you have installed? Altered any in the creation kit?, the only reason I ask is, I had created a mod for myself, a custom horse, and everything was fine, until, I went into the horse race and check a box that would allow me to pick things up while I was on a horse. After that, my face was discolored..who knew huh, that the one simple change would cause that, so I went back in, unchecked it and the bug went away, I know this is not much in the way of solving your problem, but if you did alter a ESP file yourself , this can happen, just back track if that is the case, hopefully you find your issue.
TentaclesUnleashed Posted February 28, 2018 Author Posted February 28, 2018 Tried disabling every single ESP (except racemenu) but it didn't change anything. And I didn't alter any ESP in the creation kit... Also noticed only the nord race has this problem, if I change the race of my character the head looks just fine. I think that somehow this is a mod that corrupted my save at some point so yeah, I'm just gonna start a new character haha. Thanks anyways for your help guys.
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