Saraqael Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 Hi guys, I've got some really bad lag going on. One thing I notice is that within Nordic temples (inc. Bleak Falls Barrow, Korvanjund Temple), my FPS drops from its normal 60 anywhere else and fluctuates anywhere between 30 to 50. There is nothing specific that causes this sudden lag spike: I tried turning the camera view to any dusty areas (i.e. in Korvanjund, the light in the ceiling of the third or fourth room where lots of dust particles filter through), any bright and dark areas (beside large torches, dark corners, etc.), but I haven't found any specific action or location that makes the FPS drop badly. But there are some locations -- Korvanjund Halls, Dustman's Cairn that I know of specifically -- where my FPS will suddenly tank to 10 FPS or below: I record a maximum of 6 FPS in Korvanjund Hall and 10 FPS in Dustman's Cairn. It's all quite horrific, really. My computer is pretty much way over the top: i5-7600K (no OC), GTX 1080. I run the game off of an SSD+HDD hybrid Seagate BarraCuda drive. I get maximum FPS everywhere else, but especially in Nordic temples, it pretty much dies. No other indoor location gives me this much lag -- Breezehome or any other interiors in Whiterun or any city for that matter, or Lakeview Manor. I'm running an extensive mod setup. My load order is as follows: Spoiler Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm SexLab.esm Nock2Tip.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm SexLabAroused.esm CreatureFramework.esm Campfire.esm hdtHighHeel.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm RaceCompatibility.esm AOM.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp SkyUI.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp UIExtensions.esp FNIS.esp XPMSE.esp SexLabTools.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp SexLabNudeCreatures.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp SLAnimLoader.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp Hair Physics Project.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp iHUD.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Differently Ebony.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp ELFX - Weathers.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp ETaC - Complete.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp immersive roads.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp Mystical Illumination - Signs of Skyrim Edition with Point the Way.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp Glass Variants.esp Immersive Weapons.esp N2T IW.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Seductress Elizabeth.esp Seductress Serana.esp Ultimate Leveling Potion.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp HelmetToggle.esp DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Duel - Combat Realism.esp Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp Serana No Hood.esp zzEstrus.esp Convenient Horses.esp BDVanillaCritters.esp HornyDragons.esp HornyDragsMNCAddon.esp Customizable Camera.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp IcePenguinWorldMap.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp Footprints.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp FISS.esp AMatterOfTime.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp MidnightBreed.esp SimplyKnock.esp Animated Dragon Wings.esp P1FlyingRing.esp Remodeled Armor.esp SuccubusRaceLite.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Wives.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp ImprovedLightSpells.esp iActivate.esp NoSneakAttackSound.esp Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Skysan_GlassNTGBow.esp TorchRadius.esp TGLNordArmor.esp MoreSalt.esp NewmGlassRobe.esp FacelightPlus.esp Fudou Myouou.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Unique Uniques.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp FNISSexyMove.esp AOM.esp zzLSAR.esp Inconsequential NPCs.esp SassyTeen.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp Hunterborn.esp HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Toccata.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp Frostfall.esp Nock2Tip.esp Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Elisdriel.esp MidasSkyrim.esp SOS - Shop.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Equipping Overhaul.esp DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp BandedIronBikini.esp DragonBoneBikini.esp FNISspells.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp HentaiCreatures.esp Vividian - Red light Fix.esp CinematicFireFX.esp Brighter Campfires X20.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp Ursine Armor Pack.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp SkyTweak.esp Extended UI.esp AH Hotkeys.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Vivid Snow.esp Vividian - Weather Patch Vanilla.esp DPnTrielekMix.esp SexLab Submit.esp HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp ETaC - Complete AS-LAL Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Additionally, I'm running Enhanced Lights and FX (ELFX) alongside Static Mesh Improvement Mod (SMIM) and Vividian ENB to boot. I'm aware that this combination sometimes causes horrific lag, but I've also installed patches to improve compatibility between them all, somewhere above in my load order. I've also added a few tweaks to my Skyrim.ini; it's as follows: Spoiler [General] sLanguage=ENGLISH uExterior Cell Buffer=36 [Display] fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048 bAllowScreenshot=1 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=0 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa bInvalidateOlderFiles=0 SInvalidationFile=ArchiveInvalidation.txt [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 [Papyrus] fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=1 bEnableTrace=1 bLoadDebugInformation=1 [Water] bReflectLODObjects=1 bReflectLODLand=1 bReflectSky=1 bReflectLODTrees=1 bForceHighDetailReflections=0 [LightingShader] fEyeEnvmapLODEnd=0.0 fRefractionLODFadeEnd=0.0 fRefractionLODFadeStart=0.0 fSpecularLODFadeEnd=0.0 fSpecularLODFadeStart=0.0 The only changes I've made are bForceHighDetailReflections=0 all the way to the bottom. These tweaks have helped people in the past but have done nothing to remedy my problem. Thanks, guys! I'm antsy to get some help!
Saraqael Posted February 19, 2018 Author Posted February 19, 2018 Update: I'm running MO, so I ran the game vanilla and went to Korvanjund Halls after loading up the "coc qasmoke" Nord. There is no lag to speak of whatsoever, so it's definitely not a base game or .ini problem. I've also tried running PatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true on my ENB, as well as disabling SMIM, ELFX, and Vividian with all other mods installed. The lag is still there, and still just as bad, heh. Any idea what it might be?
Guest Azma Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 i had this problem one time aswell, but i cant for the life of me remember which mod was causing it. Edit: i think it had something to do with the creatures part of the XPMSE skeleton installation. try reinstalling XPMSE, but when u get to the part where u tick skeletons for creatures, untick draugr (or all of them) to see if that fixes the lag.
Saraqael Posted February 19, 2018 Author Posted February 19, 2018 Will try this now. Thank you! I'm so glad someone else has had this problem too... Hah
Guest Azma Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 although when i was experiencing the fps drops, it went from 60 to like 2 lol
Saraqael Posted February 19, 2018 Author Posted February 19, 2018 YES! It worked!! Thank you so much, I've been looking for a fix for this for so long... I've just avoided Nordic temples for so long until I had to lmao, thanks so much!!! I didn't expect it at all to have to do with skeletons, it never occurred to me... I thought there was just a huge incompatibility with one of my lighting mods that had no fix, but after those tests without them, it was still there... Thank you again!
Guest Azma Posted February 19, 2018 Posted February 19, 2018 no worries, i dunno what the longterm effects of not having those creature skeletons are, maybe animation mismatches? dunno aye. GL with ur game
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