AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Games had been fine, till I installed the Vilja companion, then whenever i tried to leave the bannered mare I crashed. So, I uninstalled the mod and everything was fine. Now whenever i go BACK to whiterun, or anywhere near it. (and I mean near it, i can't go to the honeydew place without it CTD as well) I crash to desktop. This is also on new games as well. LOOT says nothing at all about any issues GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 Dark Souls Combat.esm=1 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 ImCh.esm=1 ImCh DG.esm=1 ImCh DB.esm=1 ImCh HF.esm=1 EFFCore.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 MagicDuelReborn.esm=1 WM Flora Fixes.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=0 ELFX - Exteriors.esp=0 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1 OBIS.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 ankoENBBETA3.esp=0 ELFX - Weathers.esp=0 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp=1 Dr_Bandolier.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=0 Combat Evolved - Core.esp=0 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp=1 Combat Evolved - Magic and Spells.esp=0 Vigor - Combat and Injuries.esp=0 Action Combat.esp=0 FISS.esp=1 AMatterOfTime.esp=0 Better Vampires.esp=1 Bijin NPCs.esp=1 High Level Enemies - SIC.esp=1 EFFDialogue.esp=1 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 Inigo.esp=1 ScopedBows.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 HothFollower.esp=1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1 Bijin Wives.esp=1 CombatMaster.esp=0 SkyTweak.esp=0 Soul of Cinder.esp=1 Dark Souls Set 01.esp=1 DM&SG.esp=0 EnchantedArsenal.esp=1 New Locational Damage.esp=1 Serana No Hood.esp=1 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp=1 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp=1 ResplendentArmor.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1 PrinceandPauper.esp=1 RSChildren.esp=1 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1 Babette.esp=1 Third Person Delay Fix.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 HitStop.esp=1 UltimateCombat.esp=0 UltimateDragons.esp=1 Unique Uniques.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 PotionAnimatedFix.esp=1 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1 Mortal Enemies.esp=1 hmkLockOn.esp=1 KS Hairdo's.esp=1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1 TemptressVixen.esp=1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=0 Skyrim_Ice_Shader_Fix.esp=1 CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1 OBISDB.esp=1 Brows.esp=1 High Level Enemies - SIC Falskaar.esp=0 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1 MoreVampireEyes.esp=1 WeaponsOf3E.esp=1 towConversation.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 AddItemMenu2.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 FNISspells.esp=1 Footprints.esp=1 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp=1 Guards Attack Hostiles.esp=1 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1 Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1 Lieyes_v1.0.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 PC Exclusive Animation Path - ORC.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Nord.esp=1 PC Exclusive Animation Path - HighElf.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - WoodElf.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - RedGuard.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - DarkElf.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Breton.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Khajiit.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Imperial.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - Argonian.esp=0 PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0 - Main.esp=1 Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp=1 HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1 Gim Boots.esp=1 ChaphelBDOZereth.esp=1 Keeping Warm.esp=1 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp=1 Dark Triss Armour.esp=0 Battlemage Armour.esp=0 LeftHandRings.esp=1 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1 9204 BDO Armor Pack II 1.0 by Team TAL.esp=1 9204 BDO Pack 2.0 by Team Tal Test7.esp=1 BBLorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp=1 FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp=1 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1 Differently Ebony.esp=1 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1 Wolf Brothers.esp=1 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1 yurica_daisho.esp=1 Vivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.esp=0 Vivid Weathers.esp=0 Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp=0 RevampedExteriorFog.esp=0 Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp=0 AlchemySupplies.esp=1 HothFollower UFO Patch.esp=0 Skill Config.esp=1 Aeon Enb.esp=0 Modern Clothes.esp=0 InigoMCM.esp=1 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=0 EMCompViljaSkyrim_Hotkeys.esp=0 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=0 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 ELFXEnhancer.esp=0 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=0 ASIS-Dependency.esp=1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1 Superl3.esp=1 Papyrus.0.log Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 You're sure it's disabled? EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp = 1 Link to comment
Gameplayer Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 41 minutes ago, AgentCarolina said: Games had been fine, till I installed the Vilja companion, then whenever i tried to leave the bannered mare I crashed. So, I uninstalled the mod and everything was fine. Now whenever i go BACK to whiterun, or anywhere near it. (and I mean near it, i can't go to the honeydew place without it CTD as well) I crash to desktop. This is also on new games as well. LOOT says nothing at all about any issues GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1 Dark Souls Combat.esm=1 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 ImCh.esm=1 ImCh DG.esm=1 ImCh DB.esm=1 ImCh HF.esm=1 EFFCore.esm=1 RaceCompatibility.esm=1 MagicDuelReborn.esm=1 WM Flora Fixes.esp=1 HighResTexturePack01.esp=1 HighResTexturePack02.esp=1 HighResTexturePack03.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 SkyUI.esp=1 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1 OBIS.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp=1 Dr_Bandolier.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp=1 FISS.esp=1 Better Vampires.esp=1 Bijin NPCs.esp=1 High Level Enemies - SIC.esp=1 EFFDialogue.esp=1 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1 SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1 Inigo.esp=1 ScopedBows.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 HothFollower.esp=1 Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1 Bijin Wives.esp=1 Soul of Cinder.esp=1 Dark Souls Set 01.esp=1 EnchantedArsenal.esp=1 New Locational Damage.esp=1 Serana No Hood.esp=1 ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp=1 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp=1 ResplendentArmor.esp=1 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1 PrinceandPauper.esp=1 RSChildren.esp=1 RSChildren Patch - USLEEP.esp=1 Babette.esp=1 Third Person Delay Fix.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 HitStop.esp=1 UltimateDragons.esp=1 Unique Uniques.esp=1 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1 PotionAnimatedFix.esp=1 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1 Mortal Enemies.esp=1 hmkLockOn.esp=1 KS Hairdo's.esp=1 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp=1 TemptressVixen.esp=1 Skyrim_Ice_Shader_Fix.esp=1 CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp=1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1 OBISDB.esp=1 Brows.esp=1 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1 MoreVampireEyes.esp=1 WeaponsOf3E.esp=1 towConversation.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project.esp=1 Fantasy Soundtrack Project - Combat.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 AddItemMenu2.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 FNISspells.esp=1 Footprints.esp=1 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp=1 Guards Attack Hostiles.esp=1 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1 Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1 Lieyes_v1.0.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 PC Exclusive Animation Path - 0 - Main.esp=1 Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp=1 HearthfireMultikid_PNP Patch.esp=1 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1 Gim Boots.esp=1 ChaphelBDOZereth.esp=1 Keeping Warm.esp=1 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp=1 LeftHandRings.esp=1 LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1 9204 BDO Armor Pack II 1.0 by Team TAL.esp=1 9204 BDO Pack 2.0 by Team Tal Test7.esp=1 BBLorkhanMoonlightGreatsword.esp=1 FNIS_PCEA2.esp=1 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp=1 AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1 Differently Ebony.esp=1 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1 Wolf Brothers.esp=1 InigoPerkPointGiver.esp=1 yurica_daisho.esp=1 AlchemySupplies.esp=1 Skill Config.esp=1 InigoMCM.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 ASIS-Dependency.esp=1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1 ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp=1 Superl3.esp=1 Papyrus.0.log RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 If your using HDT bodies your going to have to have a specific skeleton fix file, produced by another author for RSchildren to work. In fact it may well be whats causing the crashes cause whenever you go near any place that has children with HDT plus RSchildren your game will stutter, frame rates plummet and yes crashes...I use some other mod for better lookin kids cause I'd rather not have such a fussy mod installed. "Kids are alright" I think RS does a few things that cause issues like allowing kids to use adult objects and uh killable, its also directly incompatible with some adult oriented mods which will shut those mods down, likely cause of the killable and use adult objects/furniture kind of thing. Basically remove it rather than keep it. Also your Load order looks like a mess, you should use a mod manager like NMM or way better yet Mod Organizer is the king for Skyrim. I'd trim some mods from this LO personally it just looks like too much overlapping combat modules... My personal experience with OBIS tells me its not really a mod that plays well with a lot of other mods that need uptime with papyrus, although in a lighter load it can be fun...Its not really needed when you have High Level Enemies though. Having Both "Immersive Patrols" and say Skyrim Immersive Creatures...Oh look you also have OBIS...That's just Overkill and it wont turn out real well with mods that reach out with spell effects to apply scripts because your going to have a whole hellava lot of NPC's in your world space, same can be said by also using ASIS to put more monsters in the world space....Its really overkill. Say you put in a mod like Dual Sheath Redux which happens to be in your LO.....>< perfect storm situation waiting to bite you in the ass...OK so DSR, applys its effect through a spell called a "cloak spell" this reaches out about 1.5 or more cell spaces enough that its sorta outta visual range right...So its going to hit all those NPC's and apply its script to them. Now in a normal game scenario this is not a problem at all. But in your case your going to have somewhere in the magnitude range of about 10 TIMES the number NPCs that script has to run on than in a normal game....So if normally it put the effect on 3 NPC's its now gotta put it on 30! Yes you can easily achieve higher numbers of NPCs needing a script applied to them...Heck Immersive Patrols can have 10 NPCs to itself but if ASIS touches it your going to be looking at like 10 to 50 NPC's right there on the road alone! Another thing that people don't seem to realize...They think "Oh Im fine...Its 5 Humans and 12 creatures"....Well that script spell hits the creatures and it takes time to determine if those are creatures or humans....Now the thing to understand is that some of these script spells go out to the max range of like 5 cells...That's every creature, person, and monster in the entire loading block! So you could have to have that script run across 50 guys in a normal game...But with like 4 mods adding more stuff to that area that's a heck of a lot more NPC's to read through. So what other mods do you have that use a cloak spell script? Enhanced Blood XPMSE.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 Better Vampires.esp=1 That's just the ones Im sure about, but you can check yourself pretty quick by hitting the consol key, then click on the player and look for active unseen magic effects on the player character...Only possible with SKYUI which you have. Not to mention that there are going to be a lot more mods that apply "cloak spell scripts" such as but not limited to Sexlab Arroused, Creature Features and so on....But the real list is huge... What Im getting at is if you start throwing the popular adult mods found here in Lovers Lab ontop of those mods you got in place you will run into script latency, stutter, general slow downs, and low performance. Now Im not trying to scare you off of cloak script spells, alright they get used all the time in mods cause it works real well, but the thing you gotta watch out for is when you put too many NPC's into the game world....That's a lot easier achieved and can be a source of issues to itself that goes overlooked in Tech support when its really kinda obvious. To put it into perspective a typical full on adult orientated game will have like almost a dozen of these running....So its really important to be aware of when your putting too many extra actors into your game space. Link to comment
myuhinny Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 A crash when getting close to something might very well be a skeleton issue because a skeleton issue will remain even on new games. So try reinstalling anything skeleton related like XPMSE.esp and see if that fixes it because if you have a skeleton issue and you get close to or enter a cell of someone that has a bad skeleton or their skeleton isn't compatible with their body or outfit it'll cause you to crash to desktop. Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 i use NMM (insert the rolling eye emoji here) it only looks messy because I am trying to fix things. I don't use any adult mods cause that's not my style. All my mods like OBIS and IP, and IC work fine together. my frames are fine and my games are fine. The only issues i have had recently has been with children. 1 hour ago, Gameplayer said: RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 If your using HDT bodies your going to have to have a specific skeleton fix file, produced by another author for RSchildren to work. In fact it may well be whats causing the crashes cause whenever you go near any place that has children with HDT plus RSchildren your game will stutter, frame rates plummet and yes crashes...I use some other mod for better lookin kids cause I'd rather not have such a fussy mod installed. "Kids are alright" I think RS does a few things that cause issues like allowing kids to use adult objects and uh killable, its also directly incompatible with some adult oriented mods which will shut those mods down, likely cause of the killable and use adult objects/furniture kind of thing. Basically remove it rather than keep it. Also your Load order looks like a mess, you should use a mod manager like NMM or way better yet Mod Organizer is the king for Skyrim. I'd trim some mods from this LO personally it just looks like too much overlapping combat modules... My personal experience with OBIS tells me its not really a mod that plays well with a lot of other mods that need uptime with papyrus, although in a lighter load it can be fun...Its not really needed when you have High Level Enemies though. Having Both "Immersive Patrols" and say Skyrim Immersive Creatures...Oh look you also have OBIS...That's just Overkill and it wont turn out real well with mods that reach out with spell effects to apply scripts because your going to have a whole hellava lot of NPC's in your world space, same can be said by also using ASIS to put more monsters in the world space....Its really overkill. Say you put in a mod like Dual Sheath Redux which happens to be in your LO.....>< perfect storm situation waiting to bite you in the ass...OK so DSR, applys its effect through a spell called a "cloak spell" this reaches out about 1.5 or more cell spaces enough that its sorta outta visual range right...So its going to hit all those NPC's and apply its script to them. Now in a normal game scenario this is not a problem at all. But in your case your going to have somewhere in the magnitude range of about X10 NPCs that script has to run on. Not to mention that there are going to be a lot more mods that apply "cloak spell scripts" such as but not limited to Sexlab Arroused, Creature Features and so on....But the real list is huge... What Im getting at is if you start throwing the popular adult mods found here in Lovers Lab ontop of those mods you got in place you will run into script latency, stutter, general slow downs, and low performance. Link to comment
jbezorg Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I had that happen a few months ago. I think I fixed it using Save game script cleaner and using "Delete Mod Forms" on the removed mod cleaning out every reference to scripts and added forms. Can't be sure though. You know how it is when trying to save a crashing game. You desperately try to fix shit until you give it up as lost or, magic!, hey!, that worked! Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 That might work, everything was working fine until Vilja, but before that, I had an issue with RS children. It honestly might be the skeleton thing Link to comment
jennievm Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ok you have a problem. Vilja is a heavily scripted mod meaning all those scripts are now baked into your savegame. Even uninstalling it will not really help. You can try a save cleaner but with a heavily scripted mod like that chances are its gonna be in vain. The area near whiterun is known not to be very stable aswell the unoficial patch solved most of that issues but is not perfect. The rule is never to uninstall a mod with a esp or esm file especially heavily scripted mods midway through a playthrough. Good luck is all i can say give the save game cleaner a try but I don't have high hopes. Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, jennievm said: Ok you have a problem. Vilja is a heavily scripted mod meaning all those scripts are now baked into your savegame. Even uninstalling it will not really help. You can try a save cleaner but with a heavily scripted mod like that chances are its gonna be in vain. The area near whiterun is known not to be very stable aswell the unoficial patch solved most of that issues but is not perfect. The rule is never to uninstall a mod with a esp or esm file especially heavily scripted mods midway through a playthrough. Good luck is all i can say give the save game cleaner a try but I don't have high hopes. Right, I already abandoned that save game, I'm trying to keep the crashes off of my new save now. Link to comment
Gameplayer Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, Gameplayer said: RSkyrimChildren.esm=1 If your using HDT bodies your going to have to have a specific skeleton fix file, produced by another author for RSchildren to work. In fact it may well be whats causing the crashes cause whenever you go near any place that has children with HDT plus RSchildren your game will stutter, frame rates plummet and yes crashes...I use some other mod for better lookin kids cause I'd rather not have such a fussy mod installed. Already said it was a skeleton issue. Its a KNOWN issue with RSchillens. But ya I don't use Vlja so I don't know about her being script heavy, heard that voice and just uninstalled and never thought of it again. Link to comment
jennievm Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, AgentCarolina said: Right, I already abandoned that save game, I'm trying to keep the crashes off of my new save now. Ok then clean is good. Question what mod manager are you using ? and is your load order actually in that specific order ? Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Gameplayer said: Already said it was a skeleton issue. Its a KNOWN issue with RSchillens. But ya I don't use Vlja so I don't know about her being script heavy, heard that voice and just uninstalled and never thought of it again. there is not skeleton fix by the author of RS Children, and if you mean the XPMSE rescaled mod, I downloaded that as well and the crash still persists. Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 I guess i should also say, the crash is ONLY whiterun, the orphanage in Riften doesn't crash either. Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Installed the Rescaled XPMSE for RS children, and reinstalled XPMSE like stated earlier. Those removed mentions of it in my log but now it's talking about a quest. Not exactly sure how to read these logs so i''ll just paste it here. Papyrus.0.log Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 You have written that also happens with new game, so no comment from me on Save Cleaner. If the crash is only Whiterun and not before - skeleton is actually excluded. Helgen and Riverwood are both adults and children. The skeleton (the Nif) is tied to race - and playable races use the same skeleton. 1. In question can only come: A certain NPC with extra bones in mesh and missing skeleton - I think it's not like that. * 2. Change of the cells of Whiterun by mods: Whiterun has a lot of triggers in the city and in front of the city. These triggers are quest / script triggers for the main quest. ** 3. There are no scripts for mods: Your Log 10:21:00 AM - Read Script - and Missing Error until 10:35:26 AM ??? 15 minutes? * and ** means crystal ball - I do not know all mods. My suggestion: Reduce the mods to a level that you think is absolutely necessary. Really only the most important! Then play until the Riverwood and until the quest is activated, go to Whiterun to Jarl. Make a manual save. A proper manual save with console! Open console and enter save myTest1 - or whatever. Advantage: These saves are never overwritten by Skyrim. Go to Whiterun and if everything works, quit. (console and enter qqq) Activate the next mods - load myTest1 and back to Whiterun. Until you find the (or more) bad mods. Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 51 minutes ago, AgentCarolina said: Installed the Rescaled XPMSE for RS children, and reinstalled XPMSE like stated earlier. Those removed mentions of it in my log but now it's talking about a quest. Not exactly sure how to read these logs so i''ll just paste it here. Papyrus.0.log Errors like these are never good: [12/15/2017 - 11:37:10 AM] Can not open class store "_Camp_TinderTypeScript", missing file? There are few exceptions where this type of error can be ignored. It lasted only 16 seconds this time - instead of almost 15 minutes. But 16 seconds are an eternity. It seems as if a mod is not complete - possibly a missing master, which was "only" flagged as a master. PS: ImCh DG.esm=1 is a Mod with any Erros in your log. It would be good to sort the ESM these mods - in the order of the DLC. DG HF DB The Loot tool is quite helpful for sorting - it's rarely wrong. Link to comment
AgentCarolina Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 But how can i figure out what causes it because LOOT is telling me anything :c Link to comment
Savior123 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 For one uninstall RK Children Install Children are alright https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/83009 Its better and takes up less Plug ins. Second Install Skyrim performance and crash prevention Tutorial Information and SKSE inihttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/21392/? This file right here will fix your issue because I had the same issue as you. Whiterun, windhelm, and other places I will crash. with this mod. It will prevent crashes. You will rarely get crashes once you install this. Welcome. Third you don't need high resolution packs when you just can install textures that replaces other ones. You just wasting plug ins honestly. Fourth Bring your Duel Sheath plugin next to Duel sheath patch. they always suppose to be together. if not you will get crashes 5th Load order. for me Everything is order. Everything else that needs to be at the buttom I put in the bottom Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 HearthFires.esm 3 3 Dragonborn.esm 4 4 Dawnguard.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 Heels Sound.esm 9 9 daymoyl.esm 10 a hdtHighHeel.esm 11 b AOM.esm 12 c ApachiiHair.esm 13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm 14 e ApachiiHairMales.esm 15 f Campfire.esm 16 10 SexLabAroused.esm 17 11 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 18 12 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 19 13 BSAssets.esm 20 14 BSHeartland.esm 21 15 notice board.esp 22 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 23 17 SkyUI.esp 24 18 No_stretching.esp 25 19 NARC.esp 26 1a Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 27 1b PhysicsImpactDamageFix.esp 28 1c Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp 29 1d Weapons and Armor fixes.esp 30 1e Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 31 1f Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp 32 20 Immersive Weapons.esp 33 21 WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 34 22 Immersive Monster Girls.esp 35 23 Convenient Horses.esp 36 24 mihailcliffracer.esp 37 25 XPMSE.esp 38 26 CombatFatigue.esp 39 27 dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp 40 28 RandomIdleAnimation.esp 41 29 SLALAnimObj.esp 42 2a CoverSelf.esp 43 2b SLAnimLoader.esp 44 2c FNISSexyMove.esp FNISspells.esp 45 2d FNIS.esp 46 2e chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp 47 2f Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp 48 30 ISC CCF Patch.esp 49 31 ISC WAFR Patch.esp 50 32 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 51 33 ISC DeadlySpellImpacts Patch.esp 52 34 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 53 35 ISCompendium Enhanced Blood Patch.esp 54 36 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 55 37 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 56 38 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 57 39 ISC PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp 58 3a PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 59 3b PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 60 3c PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 61 3d PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 62 3e PerkusMaximus_CombatPlus.esp 63 3f Combat Evolved.esp FasterArrows75.esp FasterArrows50.esp FasterArrows.esp 64 40 UltimateCombat.esp 65 41 DeadlyCombat.esp 66 42 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp 67 43 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 68 44 VioLens.esp 69 45 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 70 46 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp da_alternate_start_extension.esp 71 47 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 72 48 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 73 49 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 74 4a OpulentOutfitsV1UniversalReplacers.esp 75 4b OMageReplacerPack.esp 76 4c Equippable Tomes.esp 77 4d CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 78 4e EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 79 4f CWIELnFXPatch.esp 80 50 ELFXEnhancer.esp 81 51 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 82 52 CWINPCOpulentOutfits.esp 83 53 Dr_Bandolier.esp 84 54 Bloodmage.esp 85 55 Cloaks.esp 86 56 FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp 87 57 FaceMasksforNPC.esp 88 58 RM_GrandMagister.esp 89 59 HoodsAndCirclets.esp 90 5a Immersive Jewelry.esp 91 5b MiniBikini.esp 92 5c Northern Priestess - EX.esp WT Demon Arcana.esp 93 5d 1nivWICCloaks.esp 94 5e 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp 95 5f SabreFurBag.esp 96 60 Luxury Collection.esp 97 61 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp 98 62 AOM.esp 99 63 Book of UUNP Iron And Steel.esp 100 64 Book of UUNP - Textures.esp 101 65 dragonplayer-ns-replacer.esp 102 66 nightshade_armor.esp 103 67 BosmerHeaddresses.esp Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp 104 68 FalmerBikini.esp 105 69 Elvenia.esp 106 6a [NINI] Red Nose.esp 107 6b calyps-dragonpriestmasks.esp 108 6c Remodeled Armor.esp 109 6d Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp 110 6e Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp 111 6f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 112 70 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 113 71 hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp 114 72 GomaPeroLand.esp 115 73 WT Tribal Clothe.esp 116 74 Dragon Priestess.esp 117 75 Only Tribal.esp 118 76 imp_helm_legend.esp 119 77 AshRocks.esp 120 78 Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp 121 79 RevampedExteriorFog.esp 122 7a RealisticWaterTwo.esp 123 7b RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 124 7c RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 125 7d RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 126 7e DifficultArchery_30.esp 127 7f No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp 128 80 Rebirth Monster.esp 129 81 Run For Your Lives.esp 130 82 When Vampires Attack.esp Sickly Diseases.esp 131 83 Immersive Wenches.esp 132 84 Deadly Wenches.esp 133 85 ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp 134 86 ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp 135 87 ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +150%.esp 136 88 ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (Vanilla) +150%.esp ABT - Loot Arrows HARDCORE.esp ABT - Merchants Arrows HARDCORE.esp ABT - Recover 50% Less Arrows and Bolts.esp 137 89 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 138 8a Brows.esp 139 8b KS Hairdo's.esp 140 8c SGEyebrows.esp 141 8d TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 142 8e Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 143 8f DynamicStealth.esp 144 90 Frostfall.esp 145 91 towConversation.esp 146 92 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp 147 93 SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 148 94 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 149 95 SexLabDefeat.esp 150 96 SexistGuards.esp 151 97 TDF Aroused Rape.esp 152 98 getSnowy.esp 153 99 SkyrimIsWindy.esp 154 9a WetandCold.esp 155 9b WetandCold - Ashes.esp 156 9c getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp 157 9d PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 158 9e PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 159 9f EatingSleepingDrinking.esp 160 a0 PumpingIron.esp 161 a1 iNeed.esp 162 a2 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 163 a3 Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp 164 a4 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 165 a5 Immersive Patrols II.esp 166 a6 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 167 a7 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 168 a8 Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp 169 a9 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 170 aa 3DNPC.esp 171 ab Clothing & Clutter_3DNPC_Patch.esp 172 ac SL99Exchanger.esp 173 ad SmartCast_1_0.esp 174 ae OverflowingEnchant.esp 175 af Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 176 b0 ShadowSpellPackage.esp 177 b1 ShadowSpellPackage_PerMaPatch.esp 178 b2 betterwards.esp 179 b3 Facelight.esp 180 b4 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 181 b5 LostGrimoire.esp 182 b6 MagicArmorVisuals.esp 183 b7 Predator Vision.esp 184 b8 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 185 b9 Hijab.esp 186 ba aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 187 bb Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 188 bc SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 189 bd SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp 190 be Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 191 bf SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp 192 c0 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp 193 c1 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp 194 c2 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp 195 c3 SMIM-RiftenDocksRopesObjectFix.esp SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp 196 c4 Blowing in the Wind.esp 197 c5 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Riften Docks Ropes Patch.esp 198 c6 Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp 199 c7 Potions.esp 200 c8 BSHeartland - Meshes.esp 201 c9 BSHeartland - Textures.esp 202 ca DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp 203 cb OBIS.esp 204 cc The Ordinary Women.esp 205 cd AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 206 ce Camilla.esp 207 cf Muiri.esp 208 d0 Taarie.esp 209 d1 Ysolda.esp 210 d2 Aela.esp 211 d3 BW Aranea.esp 212 d4 BW Beleval.esp 213 d5 BW Brelyna.esp 214 d6 BW Delphine.esp 215 d7 Frea.esp 216 d8 BW Illia.esp 217 d9 BW Ingjard.esp 218 da BW Iona.esp 219 db BW Lydia.esp 220 dc Mjoll.esp 221 dd Rayya.esp 222 de Ugor.esp 223 df Uthgerd.esp 224 e0 Adrianne.esp Carlotta.esp 225 e1 Gerdur.esp 226 e2 Irileth.esp Lisette.esp 227 e3 Rikke.esp Sapphire.esp 228 e4 Serana.esp 229 e5 Valerica.esp 230 e6 Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp 231 e7 Disparity.esp 232 e8 iHUD.esp 233 e9 Customizable Camera.esp 234 ea RaceMenu.esp 235 eb RaceMenuPlugin.esp 236 ec BFSEffects.esp 237 ed CinematicFireFX.esp 238 ee PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 239 ef Unique Uniques.esp 240 f0 UIExtensions.esp 241 f1 AddItemMenu2.esp 242 f2 ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp ScopedBows.esp 243 f3 ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp 244 f4 VandB_ENB_Nature.esp 245 f5 DartTrap harder.esp 246 f6 HN66mage4vanilla.esp 247 f7 Deadly Traps.esp 248 f8 Skyrim 2017 TPTC - Parallax Maps.esp 249 f9 FasterArrows100.esp 250 fa TKAA.esp 251 fb No Auto Aim.esp 252 fc Morrowloot.esp 253 fd Dual Sheath Redux.esp 254 fe Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, AgentCarolina said: But how can i figure out what causes it because LOOT is telling me anything :c With Loot you can check and replace your load order. The file for this (generally, even without loot) is a simple text file. In Windows, click Start-> Your Account (should be on the top right) -> then AppData -> Local -> Skyrim - plugins.txt. The file path should be like this: C: \ Users \ your name \ AppData \ Local \ Skyrim Make a copy of plugins.txt - if you do not trust loot. Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, RaHelios said: Second Install Skyrim performance and crash prevention Tutorial Information and SKSE inihttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/21392/? This file right here will fix your issue because I had the same issue as you. Whiterun, windhelm, and other places I will crash. with this mod. It will prevent crashes. You will rarely get crashes once you install this. Welcome. Third you don't need high resolution packs when you just can install textures that replaces other ones. You just wasting plug ins honestly. to Second: There are enough examples and tutorials on the topic - even as a mod. lol With 5 lines. of which 1 line in the case of an accident wrong - and 1 completely unnecessary. And it does not solve a single problem here regarding CTD in a particular location. [Display] iTintTextureResolution = 2048 [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations = 1 EnableDiagnostics = 1 [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB = 768 ScrapHeapSizeMB = 256 to Third: What are you talking about? Link to comment
Savior123 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, Andy14 said: to Second: There are enough examples and tutorials on the topic - even as a mod. lol With 5 lines. of which 1 line in the case of an accident wrong - and 1 completely unnecessary. And it does not solve a single problem here regarding CTD in a particular location. [Display] iTintTextureResolution = 2048 [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations = 1 EnableDiagnostics = 1 [Memory] DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB = 768 ScrapHeapSizeMB = 256 to Third: What are you talking about? Are helping Or you telling me it doesn't help. It actually does help sir. it gave me the same issues she is having before I even Knew anything about this mod. This help crashes outside period. Its a great mod that help preventing crashes and I recommend it to all people that having the same issue. Third I was just looking at her load order and I seen High resolution textures. just letting her know she doesn't need those plugin ins. Just wasting space. All you need is to download textures. Link to comment
Andy14 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 @RaHelios If it helped you, it just means that you are not seriously concerned with the topic yourself. That's not enough to say, install it and install it. The HighResTexturePack's are not mods but officially DLC from Bethesda. These are not good for better performance, but they are by no means the cause of CTD - unless some Replacer messed it up. But as I said, I do not know all the mods Link to comment
Savior123 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, Andy14 said: @RaHelios If it helped you, it just means that you are not seriously concerned with the topic yourself. That's not enough to say, install it and install it. The HighResTexturePack's are not mods but officially DLC from Bethesda. These are not good for better performance, but they are by no means the cause of CTD - unless some Replacer messed it up. But as I said, I do not know all the mods ???? You confusing me bro. She said she need help because her game is crashing at whiterun. I gave her the mod to prevent that so How Im I not serious about the topic???? Link to comment
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