CTD On Load

[Hunter136]

I've had this problem for some time, since the last time I played as well.

 

For some reason my game has a ctd when I try to load a recent saved game, and it only can load distant saves at time, I have no idea how to fix it and I can get a papyrus log as well. I thought about trying to use patches and fixes, etc but I don't know how to do that and the guides are a bit complicated for me.

 

I dunno if it would help, but could it be a problem with my load order? Or something else?

 

I'm a bit hesitant to try using TES5Edit without clear advice in how to use it.

 

Edit: The Continue Game no Crash plugin for some reason solves this issue, but not 100%

 

Would rather not have to require it though.

[KoolHndLuke]

Load into a "safe" save first and then load your most recent save to see if it will work.

[Hunter136]

What do you mean a safe save?

[KoolHndLuke]

Like your very first save on a new character. Then load your most recent save. It is a workaround that I have used for months. If this doesn't work post your load order in a spoiler tag.

[Hunter136]

Figured that was what it was.
 
I tried that before and it didn't work, could be due to Unbound or something, but regardless.
 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 paradise_halls.esm
7 7 ApachiiHair.esm
8 8 notice board.esp
9 9 AzarHair.esm
10 a RSkyrimChildren.esm
11 b SexLab.esm
12 c SexLabAroused.esm
13 d ApachiiHairFemales.esm
14 e ZaZAnimationPack.esm
15 f daymoyl.esm
banditseyepatch.esp
Crimson Embrace.esp
16 10 Dark Souls 3 Nameless King.esp
17 11 Dark Souls Death.esp
dark souls sounds for skyrim.esp
Demon's Souls Penetrator.esp
Eredin.esp
Flamberge.esp
halo 4 master chief armor.esp
LagrieDarkSet.esp
18 12 mjp_FalcataSword.esp
Soul of Cinder.esp
swordofdrakes.esp
uruk-hai sword.esp
WarCleaverLahley.esp
WolnirCrown.esp
19 13 DialogueTweaks.esp
20 14 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
21 15 The Forts of Skyrim-Rebuilt.esp
22 16 Motte & Bailey.esp
23 17 SkyUI.esp
24 18 LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
25 19 FISS.esp
26 1a AMatterOfTime.esp
27 1b RaceMenu.esp
28 1c RaceMenuPlugin.esp
29 1d tyrnapreset.esp
30 1e dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
31 1f MoreEyes.esp
32 20 CaptivatingEyes.esp
33 21 El_WayfarersCoat.esp
34 22 SimpleHauberk.esp
35 23 LCS_ImmersiveChainMail.esp
36 24 EMages helmets pack.esp
37 25 GoToBed.esp
38 26 RealNames.esp
39 27 JailtimeMax30.esp
40 28 becomeahighwayman.esp
41 29 VexsAnimalsNotMonsters.esp
42 2a SkyrimBelongsConditional.esp
43 2b ImperialSoldiersEscortFix.esp
44 2c Generous Dovahkiin.esp
45 2d sandboxcylinderheight.esp
46 2e CrimeDecay.esp
47 2f VioLens.esp
48 30 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
49 31 hmkLockOn.esp
50 32 Unique Uniques.esp
51 33 CL BladeofSacrifice.esp
52 34 CL Nettlebane.esp
53 35 LorkhanMoonlightGreatswordPack.esp
54 36 TKDodge.esp
55 37 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
56 38 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
57 39 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
58 3a TakeNotes.esp
59 3b Galanterie.esp
60 3c TW3Eyes.esp
61 3d KS Hairdo's.esp
62 3e Brows.esp
63 3f ExMakeup_v4.1.esp
64 40 12FemaleBrows.esp
65 41 Steelscale Armor.esp
66 42 JaxonzRenamer.esp
67 43 FNIS.esp
68 44 XPMSE.esp
69 45 DW Enemies and Wanderers.esp
70 46 no-essentials.esp
NoEssentialNPCs.esp
tsun's sword.esp
71 47 RSChildren - Complete.esp
72 48 Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp
73 49 Killable Children.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
74 4a RSChildren_PlayableOverride.esp
75 4b DW Commoners.esp
76 4c SexLabDefeat.esp
77 4d SexLabSquirtR.esp
78 4e SexLab Cumshot.esp
79 4f SexLabDangerousNights2.esp
80 50 SLALAnimObj.esp
81 51 SexLab_Solutions.esp
82 52 Skyrim Unbound.esp
83 53 TW3Plate.esp
KoTG.esp
84 54 KOTG - no quests.esp
85 55 more idle markers.esp
86 56 Saxon Motte and Bailey V1.1.esp
87 57 Cloaks.esp
88 58 Credo.esp
89 59 Chainmailhauberks 1.1.esp
90 5a VikingGuards.esp
91 5b UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
92 5c UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
93 5d CampArgentum.esp
94 5e Whiterun Gate Restoration.esp
95 5f SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
96 60 SimpleSlavery.esp
97 61 Shout-tastic_no CD.esp
98 62 Immersive Horses.esp
99 63 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
100 64 ShieldOfBerantand_Eng.esp
101 65 Craftable Horse Barding.esp
102 66 CampVarglya.esp
103 67 Fachry Suleen Follower.esp
104 68 IhlendaReconstructed.esp
105 69 akavirirest.esp
106 6a CUYC_CleanUpYourCorpses.esp
107 6b andre of astora.esp
108 6c SamuraiBlades.esp
109 6d SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp
110 6e SurcoatKnights.esp
111 6f paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
112 70 FNISspells.esp
113 71 SexLab Romance.esp
114 72 Immersive Monster Girls.esp
115 73 Solitude Military Enhancement.esp
116 74 paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp
117 75 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp
118 76 Sneak Tools.esp
ElisifCompanion.esp
119 77 Public Executions.esp
120 78 Dark Souls II Armor Pack.esp
121 79 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
122 7a PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp
Seal Magic.esp
123 7b Real Solitude Rocks.esp
124 7c notice board - dragonborn patch.esp
125 7d Instant Mastery.esp
havellagrie.esp
126 7e darksunhelmet.esp
127 7f Knightscode.esp
128 80 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
129 81 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
130 82 SWT1.2.esp
131 83 SexLabTools.esp
132 84 SLAnimLoader.esp
133 85 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
134 86 Traveller Shield.esp
135 87 Dark Souls Set 01.esp
136 88 DS BlackKnight.esp
137 89 Extended UI.esp
138 8a Knightarmor.esp
139 8b EliteKnightArmor.esp
Dark Souls 2 The Pursuer Armor Set.esp
140 8c Za Warudo.esp
141 8d zawarudo.esp
JarlsCanFollow.esp
142 8e Toccata as Elisif.esp
Toccata as ElisifCompanion Patch.esp

 

[KoolHndLuke]

Installing and using TESVedit is not hard. Also download and use Wryebashe. It may take some time to learn to make patches with both of these. But they should help with stability. As far as loading into saves- how many hours do you have on them? Can u start a new game and then load back into it? What you are looking for is an overall save file size. If your saves become too bloated then you will either have trouble loading them or wont be able to at all as they are likely corrupt.

[Hunter136]

Last time I tried to use TES5edit I had issues with MO and loot.

 

I imagine it would take a while indeed, especially with the difficulty I normally have with these things already.

 

One save has 28 hours in it, a lot of that time was suffering the bugs and ctds I had.

 

I can start a new game easily, and I think it might be a bit more stable cuz its on a current install, but it suffers the same problem and I'm playing with the continue game no crash mod.

 

Otherwise I wouldn't be able to play.

[jfraser]

Here:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/?

[Hunter136]

Here:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/?

 

I have that, and run it, but its not perfect and I'd rather not have to use it if I can fix the issue myself.

[valcon767]

ok a suggestion

 

make a new game and save it after you have full controls (when you can access the inventory, magic, and map menus).  if you do the vanilla start this point would be right

after Ralof or Hadvar cuts your hands loose. exit to desktop and then restart Skyrim and try to load that game.  if that works you now have a "safe save" to use as a

"preloader" ( I have to load my safe save every time I exit to desktop).  then if that woked just keep that "safe save" and use it for preloading (load that then your regular game).

 

If you have tried that and it did not work you most likely have a missing master file.

 

finding it manually would mean checking every mod to see what they require to work.

 

Gopher has some excellent MO tutorials.

the Step project has more information and a easy to follow (imho) guide on how to do a bashed patch.

 

a quick google search will lead you to both of those.

 

to use TES5Edit or Wyrebash with MO they have to be run from inside MO.  (check Gopher's tutorials for how to do that).

 

both can show missing master files (they will give a warning and Wyre will actually state what file is missing {it calls it missing if it is misplaced}).

 

[Hunter136]

Okay, so make a new game in vanilla, and make it a safe save and try to load that before other saves?

 

I don't know if that will work but I can try.

 

As for the edit and all that i know to do that, and know how to fix update, etc.

 

But my problem when I first tried it was that MO and loot had issues recognizing the esp's.

 

S.T.E.P is a bit of a pain but I can try to follow that.

[valcon767]

ok the reason I was referring to the step project was not to follow it (that is a personal choice) but it had the easiest (I found for me) instructions on how to make a

bashed patch.  the bashed patch will not be made if you have a missing or misplaced master file.

 

as for the "safe save" I have 2 (one with only vanilla stuff, and 1 with current mod load in the AS-LAL cell). either should work to tell you if you can play and load saves.

that should be a easy way to make sure you have the correct master files (and have them in the right order).

 

Wyre and TES5Edit can also find other problems, but takes a bit to learn how to do (find other problems).

 

edit

 

one thing to remember is while Loot is good it is not perfect.

 

and MO will not give you a warning for misplaced master files.  (Wyre will when you try to make a bashed patch, it will call them missing even though

they are in fact present, they are just in the wrong order)

 

UFO is a prime example in the load order you posted.  you have the addons for UFO before the UFO mod itself, they should be after.

Wyre when making a bashed patch will normally give a missing master warning for this type of thing.

and when you look (just at MO) you will not get that warning because they are in fact present, just out of place)

 

[Hunter136]

I'm a bit nervous trying to use Wrye bash and using tes5edit again, but I'll keep doing my best to make my game stable.

[Lodakai]

 

Here:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/?

 

I have that, and run it, but its not perfect and I'd rather not have to use it if I can fix the issue myself.

 

 

This type of issue is generally caused by the footik error.   There is no real known fix except to do one of the following...

- Load your saves from either a new game or by typing coc qasmoke before loading any current games.

- using continue game no crash mod

- removing custom animations that you had to use FNIS to install.

 

the more custom animations that you are using.. the more likely you are to run into the footik error.  This may or may not be your current issue, but chances are that it is, given the information provided.

[KoolHndLuke]

 

 

Here:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/?

 

I have that, and run it, but its not perfect and I'd rather not have to use it if I can fix the issue myself.

 

 

This type of issue is generally caused by the footik error.   There is no real known fix except to do one of the following...

- Load your saves from either a new game or by typing coc qasmoke before loading any current games.

- using continue game no crash mod

- removing custom animations that you had to use FNIS to install.

 

the more custom animations that you are using.. the more likely you are to run into the footik error.  This may or may not be your current issue, but chances are that it is, given the information provided.

 

 

After doing some testing I have found out that reducing animations for FNIS will solve your problem. In my test I used 12 mods for 3800 animations. Most recent saves would not load directly. After reducing animations to 3200- THE PROBLEM STOPPED. This obviously may vary for a number of reasons. But it is directly related to animations as far as I can tell.