Kingslayer101 Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Guys, I fixed my old ctd and was happily playing skyrim but now my game ctds whenever i use the door to go outside. I havnt changed any mods or anything so I have no clue whats causing this.I cant use Save Cleaner as it CTDs when I open my save.
Ark of Truth Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Where is your save currently? Which interior?
Kingslayer101 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 Where is your save currently? Which interior? I've tried multiple locations all of them work. Right now it's the Dead Man's Drink in Falkreath. Any outside start leads to a ctd.
Ark of Truth Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 OK. What you need to do is using the console move yourself to another area either exterior or interior. Then go outside and return to Falkreath. Do not fast travel into it, fast travel to just outside Falkreath and walk to the Dead Man's Drink. Let us know if you crash again.
Guest Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 A couple of things this could be when you go outside : (from most likely to least likely) 1.) Bad modding practices- you installed and uninstalled mods at will during your save causing irreversible damage. you should always test on a new game to see if its your save but if the save is relatively new and you haven't uninstalled anything mid play through then just keep testing your mods. 2) Meshes(Clothing, creatures, actors,etc) - Do you use bodyslide or any physics in your game? there is a possibility that someone is wearing an armor that wrongfully weighted. 3.) Memory Crash- Memory blocks log you can download this to make sure you're not going over the limit 4.) Merge Crash- If you ever merged any mods together alot of times people do and ignore error messages such as (Failed to Build Navmeshes) and play the game anyway well this can and most likely always will cause problems because as soon as something references it you will crash. NOW You haven't given your load order so its hard to help you and are you using MO or NMM?
Kingslayer101 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 A couple of things this could be when you go outside : (from most likely to least likely) 1.) Bad modding practices- you installed and uninstalled mods at will during your save causing irreversible damage. you should always test on a new game to see if its your save but if the save is relatively new and you haven't uninstalled anything mid play through then just keep testing your mods. 2) Meshes(Clothing, creatures, actors,etc) - Do you use bodyslide or any physics in your game? there is a possibility that someone is wearing an armor that wrongfully weighted. 3.) Memory Crash- Memory blocks log you can download this to make sure you're not going over the limit 4.) Merge Crash- If you ever merged any mods together alot of times people do and ignore error messages such as (Failed to Build Navmeshes) and play the game anyway well this can and most likely always will cause problems because as soon as something references it you will crash. NOW You haven't given your load order so its hard to help you and are you using MO or NMM? I am using MO, surprisingly I can read some of my papyrus now and i think its a merged mod crash but I need confirmation. Sorry for not adding the load order xD 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 EFFCore.esm 8 8 CreatureFramework.esm 9 9 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 10 a dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm 11 b Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 c Heels Sound.esm 13 d Devious Devices - Assets.esm 14 e SGHairPackBase.esm 15 f ApachiiHairMales.esm 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 11 Heretical Resources.esm 18 12 RaceCompatibility.esm 19 13 SexLabAroused.esm 20 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 21 15 SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm 22 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 23 17 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 24 18 ApachiiHair.esm 25 19 daymoyl.esm 26 1a hdtHighHeel.esm 27 1b paradise_halls.esm 28 1c DW.esp 29 1d SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp 30 1e HHairstyles.esp 31 1f DD - Interactions.esp 32 20 HDT 2Hair+EarringNecklace.esp 33 21 Brows.esp 34 22 BloodthirstVampireFeeding.esp 35 23 HotpantsBikini.esp 36 24 Chain Top.esp 37 25 Hoop Earrings.esp 38 26 SLAnimLoader.esp 39 27 SimpleBikini7B.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp 40 28 pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp 41 29 SlaveTats.esp 42 2a Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 43 2b Aradia Naughty Lingerie.esp 44 2c SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 45 2d Blush When Aroused.esp 46 2e SGHairPackAIO.esp 47 2f AnPack.esp 48 30 ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp 49 31 HUE Eyes.esp 50 32 LindsMerEyes+HumanEyes.esp 51 33 SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp 52 34 FNIS.esp 53 35 LovelyHairstylesCE.esp 54 36 SexLabWorkingGirl.esp 55 37 Luxury Collection.esp 56 38 Jugs.esp 57 39 GagSFX.esp 58 3a SexLabDangerousNights2.esp 59 3b KS Hairdo's.esp 60 3c KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 61 3d LeftHandRings.esp 62 3e Serana.esp 63 3f SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 64 40 RaceMenu.esp 65 41 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 66 42 ELFX - Exteriors.esp 67 43 EstrusChaurus.esp 68 44 EstrusSpider.esp 69 45 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 70 46 MilkModNEW.esp 71 47 MilkModNEW HF.esp 72 48 sr_FillHerUp.esp 73 49 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 74 4a MoreNastyCritters.esp 75 4b SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp 76 4c Apropos.esp 77 4d RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp 78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 79 4f RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp 80 50 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 81 51 SLALAnimObj.esp 82 52 FNISSexyMove.esp 83 53 SED7-CBBE3-Allin1-EDITION Merged.esp 84 54 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 85 55 SLA Monitor Widget.esp 86 56 SOSRaceMenu.esp 87 57 Corset Stockings.esp 88 58 SerialStrip.esp 89 59 SerialStripper.esp 90 5a SexLabDefeat.esp 91 5b SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 92 5c SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 93 5d SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 94 5e MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp 95 5f SkyRe_Main.esp 96 60 Facelight.esp 97 61 3DNPC.esp 98 62 Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 99 63 FoxySkyrim.esp 100 64 ELFXEnhancer.esp 101 65 Better Vampires.esp 102 66 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 103 67 SL Deadly Drain.esp 104 68 Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp 105 69 Remodeled Armor - 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Elves Edition.esp 142 8e WetFunction.esp 143 8f The Ningheim.esp 144 90 TheCoenaculiUNP.esp 145 91 Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn.esp 146 92 TreestumpConversions.esp 147 93 UIExtensions.esp 148 94 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 149 95 WarpaintsTattoosOverlays.esp 150 96 XPMSE.esp 151 97 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp 152 98 sanguinesDebauchery.esp 153 99 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 154 9a [MPX] NPC Gender Race Heights +Dawnguard.esp 155 9b PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp 156 9c Pearl Juice.esp 157 9d SMIM-Merged-All.esp 158 9e Escape the Cell.esp 159 9f buildablehouse.esp 160 a0 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp 161 a1 SimpleSlavery.esp 162 a2 qayl.esp 163 a3 Bijin NPCs.esp 164 a4 SLSW Addicted.esp 165 a5 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 166 a6 Rowana Follower.esp 167 a7 Minerva.esp 168 a8 MoreSlaves2.esp 169 a9 dcc-dm2.esp 170 aa pahe-tdf-patch.esp 171 ab non-devious devices.esp 172 ac numenume Hair.esp 173 ad sr_FillThemUp.esp 174 ae Slaverun_Reloaded.esp 175 af paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 176 b0 LABikiniLight.esp 177 b1 SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp 178 b2 Sina Follower.esp 179 b3 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp 180 b4 Braenn.esp 181 b5 wristbinder.esp 182 b6 zzEstrus.esp 183 b7 SneakTools.esp 184 b8 SexLab_Dialogues.esp 185 b9 adcSexlife.esp 186 ba SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 187 bb AngrimApprentice.esp 188 bc paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 189 bd daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 190 be rk_Followers.esp 191 bf Devious Deviants.esp 192 c0 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 193 c1 SexLab-Parasites.esp 194 c2 TemptressVixen.esp 195 c3 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp 196 c4 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 197 c5 QBlade Echidna.esp 198 c6 Talindra.esp 199 c7 Chaconne.esp 200 c8 MeeraFollower.esp 201 c9 Vivace.esp 202 ca sextoys-calyps-2.esp 203 cb Nylea.esp 204 cc Toccata.esp 205 cd Arachnophobia.esp 206 ce Recorder Follower Base.esp 207 cf iNeed.esp 208 d0 BarbarianExplorer.esp 209 d1 Luxury Collection Vendor.esp 210 d2 HDT Piercingsets.esp 211 d3 Inner Suit.esp 212 d4 tetrodoxin - Lilu.esp 213 d5 Laima.esp 214 d6 YuiH's Screenshot Models - Freyane.esp 215 d7 pahe_lakeview_manor_cell.esp 216 d8 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 217 d9 FootIKOffSpell.esp 218 da BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 219 db Better Females - Eyebrows.esp 220 dc 12FemaleBrows.esp 221 dd SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp 222 de DNC - All Races - 5maps.esp 223 df Extended Slider Colors.esp 224 e0 SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp 225 e1 Overknee_Brisa.esp 226 e2 SDpatch - frostfall.esp 227 e3 SD Addons.esp 228 e4 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 229 e5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 230 e6 da_alternate_start_extension.esp 231 e7 Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp 232 e8 ccas_starts.esp 233 e9 ImmerSlave.esp 234 ea ImmerSlave-ParadiseHallsPatch.esp 235 eb Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 236 ec ReProccer.esp 237 ed Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Papyrus.0.log
Gameplayer Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 This is Skyrim 32 bit. I'm leaning very strongly towards this is an issue of throwing too many scripted mods at a program designed to run on an XBOX 360. There are mods in your load order like Better Vampires that really can eat up your papyrus log time depending on which features are used. Then there's Dual Sheath Redux, DDI, and Creature Features... Of course there's an active Estrues Chorus ESP. If your using a mod on LL that requires it, likely it just needs the animations and you can throw out its ESP. You need to cut back on the scripted mods, there really are no tricks to making 32 bit run well enough to be satisfying over a long gaming period without issues other than limiting the potential for errors by not using too many mods that need papyrus time regularly.
Kingslayer101 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 This is Skyrim 32 bit. I'm leaning very strongly towards this is an issue of throwing too many scripted mods at a program designed to run on an XBOX 360. There are mods in your load order like Better Vampires that really can eat up your papyrus log time depending on which features are used. Then there's Dual Sheath Redux, DDI, and Creature Features... Of course there's an active Estrues Chorus ESP. If your using a mod on LL that requires it, likely it just needs the animations and you can throw out its ESP. You need to cut back on the scripted mods, there really are no tricks to making 32 bit run well enough to be satisfying over a long gaming period without issues other than limiting the potential for errors by not using too many mods that need papyrus time regularly. I get it but what I dont understand is how did it fuck up when I was able to play 8 hours without any problems :/
Kingslayer101 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 Ok guys, checking my papyrus again and it seems that reinstalling SneakTools fixed the problem xDidk how Skyrim does this to me
Gameplayer Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 This is Skyrim 32 bit. I'm leaning very strongly towards this is an issue of throwing too many scripted mods at a program designed to run on an XBOX 360. There are mods in your load order like Better Vampires that really can eat up your papyrus log time depending on which features are used. Then there's Dual Sheath Redux, DDI, and Creature Features... Of course there's an active Estrues Chorus ESP. If your using a mod on LL that requires it, likely it just needs the animations and you can throw out its ESP. You need to cut back on the scripted mods, there really are no tricks to making 32 bit run well enough to be satisfying over a long gaming period without issues other than limiting the potential for errors by not using too many mods that need papyrus time regularly. I get it but what I dont understand is how did it fuck up when I was able to play 8 hours without any problems :/ Wow well I want to avoid getting detailed cause that means I have to remember a lot of s$it. The jist is like this... Some mods don't fire everything off under the hood at the start of the game. Take BFV for instance. Its got a whole lot of bells and whistles under the hood, much of which isn't even on until you turn it on, as in all those extra options. Heck a lot of it wont even fire off a shot until the player becomes a Vampire even. Yet it comes packed with enough extras besides that its entirely conceivable to be able to play on a stressed game until such time that one becomes a Vampire and then decides oh I'd like to start playing with these other features, that are OFF by default and have warnings on its Forum page like don't turn these on if your game is struggling. Not to mention that as the player progresses into the game the Base Vanilla version of the game has its own scripts that would be firing off and expecting to run even if there was a pile up on the system just from Vanilla scripts. I've actually read articles that claimed the Vanilla Scripts could pile up and crash a vanilla state game. The point that Im really trying to make in this paragraph is that the Papyrus system was never intended for the complicated fan made mods that we have for the game....Pap was meant for the base games systems and wasn't really meant to hold a whole slew of constant extra checks. As an example, BFV can run quite a few running checks like vamp hunter timers, Blood Pool timers, constantly checking the exact state of how much light is on the players body because literally it can be daytime but Im in a shadow so dark Im not burning alive. Dual Sheath Redux....Makes a check on Cell Load for every NPC, but that's not the only mod under your hood that is checking every npc on Cell Load! You have Arroused, DCL, BFV (making checks too), and a few others. And I've no idea what the underlying vanilla game is trying to do in your game state, as in is it attempting to fire off a script but is told to wait in line? Thing is that mod authors really haven't figured out how to make decent scripts for "waiting in line" until like just the last 8 to 12 months. Of course I've read a lot of mod authors say, "But my mod only does just this one little check"....Well sure that mod only just does this one little check every once in a while or only when the player pushes a button or performs a specific action but that ignores the fact that said player can have 50 other mods that are also trying to fire off a scripted sequence, on a 32 bit program that uses a scripting system that never was intended to use anything as sophisticated as said "xyz" mods that player is using. The short answer. Getting a interesting mods working well together for long term play is trail and error. We don't really know at this time if things will be better on SSE but things are looking promising.
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