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Frequent exterior CTDs (Log + order included)


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Papyrus log: http://pasted.co/17501c66 (had to use this paste site. Too big for Pastebin)

 

Load order: http://pastebin.com/tUHbfZ7p

 

I have no clue why it crashes, I'm especially dumbfounded by the size of this log and all the errors there are.

All I can say is that it has so far mainly crashed when I'm going around outside. It did crash a few times when moving items around in an inventory / opening an inventory.

 

Been living with it so far but finally decided I needed somebody with the knowhow to potentially solve this.

 

Any help is appreciated!

 

Edit: Ah and I don't know if this makes any difference but I'm running with ENBoost because my PC is in no way a high-end rig like it used to be, and i do have a few tweaks on the skyrim.ini like disabling ambient occlusion.

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The number of mods is not high.

 

Convenient Horses is known to create problems.

Climates of Tamriel is way demanding, and it may create problems in some configs.

Get the latest version of Creature Framework, and install it after More Nasty Critters.

DualStealthRedux is spamming your Papyrus log, get rid of it. No questions. Do it.

 

After the mod changes, load, wait, save, and then clean the save game, and be sure to remove invalid Forms, and all scripts that have no valid forms.

 

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The number of mods is not high.

 

Convenient Horses is known to create problems.

Climates of Tamriel is way demanding, and it may create problems in some configs.

Get the latest version of Creature Framework, and install it after More Nasty Critters.

DualStealthRedux is spamming your Papyrus log, get rid of it. No questions. Do it.

 

After the mod changes, load, wait, save, and then clean the save game, and be sure to remove invalid Forms, and all scripts that have no valid forms.

 

How do i "clean" the save game, and remove invalid forms / scripts with no valid forms?

I am a super amateur modder. Excuse my likely quite stupid questions  :s

I have the latest version i can find of Creature Framework on loverslab, is it not the 1.1.0-pre2 found at http://www.loverslab.com/files/download/1622-creature-framework/ ?

I removed both Convenient Horses, climates of tamriel and Dual sheath redux. I don't actually have any idea why i have Dual Sheath Redux, i don't use dual wields.

 

 

Thanks for the super fast response by the way :).

 

Edit: Went ahead and looked online for a save game cleaner and i found one on nexusmods, used it and cleaned my savegame. Going to use it and see what happens. Will report back with whatever happens.

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Hi.

 

Just remember that there are NO stupid questions. Only stupid answers in some cases.

 

Good for the mods, and yes, CF 1.1 pre2 is the latest one, but it is really good and stable. Way more than the one included in MNC.

 

About saving the save games, get the tool Save game script cleaner.

Copy your last save game (do it), and run the tul on your last save game.

Click on FixScritInstances, then on "Delete all #" (# = orphan), then "Delete broken actives", "Clean formlists", then "Advanced" and click on "Remove scripts attached to nonexistent created forms".

Save your save game and try it.

 

In case it does not work, restore your backup.

 

Posted

Hi.

 

Just remember that there are NO stupid questions. Only stupid answers in some cases.

 

Good for the mods, and yes, CF 1.1 pre2 is the latest one, but it is really good and stable. Way more than the one included in MNC.

 

About saving the save games, get the tool Save game script cleaner.

Copy your last save game (do it), and run the tul on your last save game.

Click on FixScritInstances, then on "Delete all #" (# = orphan), then "Delete broken actives", "Clean formlists", then "Advanced" and click on "Remove scripts attached to nonexistent created forms".

Save your save game and try it.

 

In case it does not work, restore your backup.

Allright i reinstalled Creature Framework 1.1.0-pre2 and let it overwrite all files from More Nasty Critters.

As for the save cleaning I did all you told me to do here. Now i can only hope for good results :)

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Allright. Cleaned save, booted up and got on my horse for some test-riding through the lands. came across a pack of wolves. One of them bit my horse - and i crashed.

 

http://pastebin.com/HPguwGnM I do see a load of script errors this time though, should i clean save again?

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"Wet and Cold" has the only errors I can see.

 

CF has some spam, but because it is a test version it is normal.

 

The first lines are about USLEEP.

For some reasons it looks like you were using a different unofficial patch before.

 

Posted

"Wet and Cold" has the only errors I can see.

 

CF has some spam, but because it is a test version it is normal.

 

The first lines are about USLEEP.

For some reasons it looks like you were using a different unofficial patch before.

 

So what should my next steps be? Removing Wet and Cold? Maybe I opened the papyrus log too early or something, saw somebody say on another forum that papyrus takes ages to dump all the info on crash.

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The problem is that when you have a CTD then the papyrus log update is stopped.

So technically you cannot get more info.

 

Try wet and cold.

But I am not sure about this will solve the problem (but it is easy to re-install.)

Try to remove the Unofficial patch, load wait a minute, save, re-install it, and re-try.

 

Posted

The problem is that when you have a CTD then the papyrus log update is stopped.

So technically you cannot get more info.

 

Try wet and cold.

But I am not sure about this will solve the problem (but it is easy to re-install.)

Try to remove the Unofficial patch, load wait a minute, save, re-install it, and re-try.

Removed Wet and Cold. Tried to remove the unnoficial skyrim patch for legendary edition, but i just crash at startup when i try that with no context even in the log.

 

Cleaned save after loading without wet and cold and saving after a bit of waiting. Reloaded, strolled around on my horse and crashed again.

Maybe you can pull something else from this log: http://pastebin.com/LrX3W0h3

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No, not really. It is pretty much the same as before, without the errors of wet and cold.

 

Try to disable (not uninstall) the whole MNC (MNC + hentay Creatures, + Creature Framework), load, wait, save.

Clean the save. Reload, re-wait, re-save.

Reinstall JUST the new CF.

 

Try.

 

If it is good now, re-install MNC and then (if not using Mod Organizer) also CF.

 

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Still getting CTDs with only CF installed.

 

I think I'm going to go sleep now and get working on re-installing everything when i wake up in the morning.

 

Should I use MO instead of NMM? I've heard MO is better and I'm not that bad with technical stuff so it shouldn't be hard for me to learn how to use it. Not sure if it's worth it to convert though

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I do use MO. At first is a little bit complex, but guarantees you that when you uninstall a mod it is gone for good.

 

Have a good night.

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