Roggvir Execution Scene not starting

[Niobia]

I've been playing since launch and using mods like a lunatic but this is the first time I've ever had this problem. I've tried removing all mods that affect solitude, I've tried removing all mods that affect NPCs even though I've been using them for years with no problem before. I've even tried using them without the unofficial patch, usleep.

 

Since I have PerMa and DS Redux, I have to run these long patchers each time I remove a mod to test it out. So I've been at this for the last 11 hours. So now I'm just going to ask if anyone knows if any of the mods in my load order might be causing it. Something I wouldn't even think of. I don't have open cities which is the only thing google has brought up. I know I can use console commands to skip around, but I'd rather get rid of the problem  since it could be breaking other things.

 

Here's my load order:

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Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

ChineseRace.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

EFFCore.esm

Gray Fox Cowl.esm

notice board.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

RSkyrimChildren.esm

MFVM.esm

SkyUI.esp

Grimy Utilities Interface.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1

Extended UI.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

SCO Summer Edition.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

SOS - Revealing Armors.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

Cangloong city.esp

Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

LocalizedGuildJobs.esp

GriptzionTeleportMenuSpell.esp

T3nd0s SkyRe Standing Stones and Races.esp

PathOfSorcery.esp

ForgottenCity.esp

Phenderix's Magic Evolved No Perks.esp

Ciceriareplacor.esp

Replacement Crowns.esp

_ImoMegane.esp

Accessorize.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp

Customizable Camera.esp

Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp

NoNakedComments.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Neithteam Warpaint.esp

MoreWomenDGDB.esp

TimingIsEverything.esp

Kaine Outfit.esp

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

KS Hairdos - HDT.esp

SGEyebrows.esp

VioLens.esp

CitrusHead - Standalone.esp

SSAssist.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

UIExtensions.esp

AddItemMenu.esp

MaximumDrive.esp

AP Eyes.esp

Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

RealisticWoodenMannequins.esp

MFVM_EFF_Patch.esp

EFFDialogueDLC.esp

DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

Dragon Lilly.esp

Character Creation Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp

Aradia Kato Outfit.esp

adenz_FairyFollowers.esp

DualWieldingLikeABoss.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

FollowerLivePackage.esp

FollowerLivePackage-EFFCore.esp

JaxonzEnhGrab.esp

Al_Janna_PlayerHome.esp

summersetisles.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

TW3_femaleArmors_zzjay.esp

Elewin Pumps 2.esp

notice board - dragonborn patch.esp

MHIYH.esp

zzDreadlocks.esp

MuscularWomen_Diesel_AR.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp

titkit.esp

Action Combat.esp

FNIS.esp

FNIS_PCEA2.esp

TKDodge.esp

FemaleUlfric.esp

iLuvLoading.esp

RSChildren - Complete.esp

SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp

RSChildren_PatchUSLEEP.esp

TimeStopRing.esp

XPMSE.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

Mana Follower.esp

TS_Whipcane.esp

MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp

PullMastry.esp

Worlds Dawn.esp

AetherSuite.esp

Merta Black Rose Armor.esp

PerkusMaximus_Master.esp

Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp

PerMaDefluffedPerkDescriptions.esp

PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp

Perma Defluff + Apocalypse.esp

PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp

PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp

PerMa_USKP master patch.esp

UltimateCombat.esp

PoS Apocalypse Patch.esp

Halo's Poser.esp

QuickLight.esp

RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

WearablePubes.esp

EverybodyLovesDovahkiin.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

jh_people2.esp

JH_dragonborn.esp

Donyaakin.esp

jh_ELF.esp

jh_dawnguard.esp

JH_Companion.esp

JHHousecarl.esp

ForswornFemale.esp

banditfemale.esp

DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.esp

PatchusMaximus.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

Again, I've already tried new games without the mods that affect Solitude and NPCs in general. I'm tired of guessing over and over so I'm just hoping someone knows something rather making a wild a guess because it'll likely be the same guess I've already made. I've also made sure to FNIS each time as well.

[Uncle64]

Have you run LOOT?

And this plugin should be last, since it is one lvl list plugin. You can read all about it on the modders page. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/34093/?

 

You can Bash it in one Bashed Patch. If you want.

And you need to fix your load order.

[Niobia]

Yeah, I run LOOT every single time. Changing the load order of that mod doesn't do anything about this problem.

[Uncle64]

How have you installed your mods?

Manually/MO/NMM/Wrye Bash?

 

Your load order is way off, since the priority for the mods must be at correct order for the mods to work as they should.

You cant have patches in the middle of the load order, they should be at the bottom.

You have Esp files before your master files.

 

RUN LOOT, install Wrye bash and fine tune the load order. It cant work whit your load order. And dont forget to click the 3 small dots up in right corner to apply in LOOT.

 

And read this tread. Before you do anything else.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/43043-skyrim-modding-guide/

 

[myuhinny]

Run tes5edit after running LOOT as a back up to make sure everything is in order. The more mods you have installed the higher the chance you will have of something messing up the Helana part. It is usually best to start a new game with most mods off then install them/turn them on after completing Helena. Or just get one of the alternate start mods. 

[Niobia]

Run tes5edit after running LOOT as a back up to make sure everything is in order. The more mods you have installed the higher the chance you will have of something messing up the Helana part. It is usually best to start a new game with most mods off then install them/turn them on after completing Helena. Or just get one of the alternate start mods. 

 

Run TES5edit and do what?

Helana part?

I already mentioned I start a new game every single time.

I also have Alternate start in my load order.

[Niobia]

How have you installed your mods?

Manually/MO/NMM/Wrye Bash?

 

Your load order is way off, since the priority for the mods must be at correct order for the mods to work as they should.

You cant have patches in the middle of the load order, they should be at the bottom.

You have Esp files before your master files.

 

RUN LOOT, install Wrye bash and fine tune the load order. It cant work whit your load order. And dont forget to click the 3 small dots up in right corner to apply in LOOT.

 

And read this tread. Before you do anything else.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/43043-skyrim-modding-guide/

 

LOOT ordered the mods this way and most of these mods have been this ordered this way by LOOT long before this error came about. Those esp files are master files with esp extensions and have been that way for years. This problem just started yesterday. I've been modding for years, so I've read up on all of this stuff. Again, I've been through all of this a billion times over and over. I'm just going to go back to trial and error. I only wanted to know if anyone knew if any of these mods had bugs tied to them.

 

And no. Most of those patches you see don't belong on the bottom. Each patch is under the correct  mod associated with it.

[myuhinny]

Sorry mixed up executions. Running TES5EDIT after LOOT will make sure your load order is in fact correct. It will try to load up your mods you have installed if it hits a error in your load order it will stop and tell you why read it fix it close it and keep restarting it till it is able to load everything up without hitting any error. I only glanced at your load order.

[Uncle64]

Those plugins is not one master. TheEyesOfBeauty.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp

If you have run LOOT as you should have done, not just open it. Let it sort and after click apply. And dont forget to update the masterlist first.

Then this plugin should not be in this order.

 

Gray Fox Cowl.esm

notice board.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

RSkyrimChildren.esm

MFVM.esm

SkyUI.esp

 

Read the link I did give you and redo it, since you have failed.

Your load order is utterly wrong.

I will not respond any more until you have run loot properly.

 

And for the record your Alternate start mod is also at the wrong place. LOOT, LOOT.

Sorry mixed up executions. Running TES5EDIT after LOOT will make sure your load order is in fact correct. It will try to load up your mods you have installed if it hits a error in your load order it will stop and tell you why read it fix it close it and keep restarting it till it is able to load everything up without hitting any error. I only glanced at your load order.

 

Wrye Bash is actually better in many cases, it can load the list and tell about what is wrong to.

Tesv5ed mostly warns only if you miss one plugin/master.

[D_ManXX2]

What are those JH mods do they edit npc's directly in solitude ?? i think this mod is responsible for your bug. check it out disable jh mods and go to solitude again and see if it now triggers ?? try a different npc overhaul like beijin or something similar.

[Niobia]

Alright, I figured out the problem and fixed it so I'll just post this in case anyone finds this via google. Making a wyre bash patch broke my game the way I thought it would (NPCs were all jacked up in the face, weapon names were blumpy). My load order is more or less the same as it has been for the last 2+ years and its been set up perfectly, so I shouldn't have doubted that. I had spent hours getting this load order to work all those years ago and even more hours updating each mod.

 

Anyway, I did hours of trial and error and narrowed it down to the jh_people2.esp. That's the only thing causing the error in my load order. It's a korean mod that makes the female NPCs look different. I tried cleaning it even though it was already clean, so that didnt work. I've had this mod for years and its always worked but then I remember during my reinstall about a week ago, had two of these esp's and they were both different file sizes. Naturally I went with the one with the latest modify date.

 

So today, I grabbed the other one, installed via NMM. Started up a new game will all my mods again in the exact load order in the OP, and everything worked. The scene placed off and that traitor Roggvir got executed.

 

Thanks everyone for the help, but there's nothing wrong with my load order. The combination of weird mods that I use is the way it is for a reason. I use a lot of self made mods and have editted most of them. I also use a ton of korean mods that have zero support.

 

 

 

So if anyone finds this, has this issue, and happens to have this obscure korean mod, there you go. 

[Uncle64]

You actually say that your load order is correct?

O my god.

Fine by me that it works for you, but whit that load order it will only take some time before you whine somewhere that your Skyrim is not working.

[aljustineg]

i was going to end up removing jh esp

cause the only we have in common is jh npc  but thanks for finding out the problem il fix mine after i get home

 

[Valvangur]

Alright, I figured out the problem and fixed it so I'll just post this in case anyone finds this via google. Making a wyre bash patch broke my game the way I thought it would (NPCs were all jacked up in the face, weapon names were blumpy). My load order is more or less the same as it has been for the last 2+ years and its been set up perfectly, so I shouldn't have doubted that. I had spent hours getting this load order to work all those years ago and even more hours updating each mod.

 

Anyway, I did hours of trial and error and narrowed it down to the jh_people2.esp. That's the only thing causing the error in my load order. It's a korean mod that makes the female NPCs look different. I tried cleaning it even though it was already clean, so that didnt work. I've had this mod for years and its always worked but then I remember during my reinstall about a week ago, had two of these esp's and they were both different file sizes. Naturally I went with the one with the latest modify date.

 

So today, I grabbed the other one, installed via NMM. Started up a new game will all my mods again in the exact load order in the OP, and everything worked. The scene placed off and that traitor Roggvir got executed.

 

Thanks everyone for the help, but there's nothing wrong with my load order. The combination of weird mods that I use is the way it is for a reason. I use a lot of self made mods and have editted most of them. I also use a ton of korean mods that have zero support.

 

 

 

So if anyone finds this, has this issue, and happens to have this obscure korean mod, there you go. 

 

Thanks for the heads up! I recently installed the all-in-one animated pussy mod which has the jh*.esp's as an option in the installer, and the execution sequence is broken for me too. Is there a version of jh that doesn't break things? I really like what it does as far as changing the look of NPC's.

[Tekajekaje12]

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