wezu Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 As much as I love DD, it is sometimes quite ..em.. frustrating. After getting locked up and realising that it would take me an hour or more to get back to the vanilla gameplay, I often find myself loading a save and going back to a point before the mishap. Most capture/enslave scenarios sooner or later end in escaping a master and later murdering him or her to get back the items lost during the slavery episode. I was wondering if there could be some other way to approach the whole bondage business and well, this topic is the sum of my thoughts. Oh, and sorry for the long post How would I see it? Let me tell you a story... A Story... Imagine a remote part of Skyrim, a small camp of bandits lit by the setting sun and a small fire. You can smell the skeever slowly roasting on the spit, the Nords bandits talk about Nord things like mead and battle-axes, when they are suddenly alarmed by a noise coming from the nearby bushes. As weapons are drawn and challenges issued a girl emerges from the foliage and the men fall silent. For lack of better words, let us say the girl is 'dressed' in a leather collar, wrist and ankle cuffs and nothing more. With a shy smile and downcast eye, she walks to the middle of the camp and once she's sure that all eyes are on her, kneels in a provocative pose and asks no one in particular: "Are you my new Master?". After a moment of silence the bandits relax, they start to jest, taunt and laugh at the obviously crazy girl, but one of them walks up to her and with a smug smile starts to unbutton his pants. "I'll be your master bitch, and I've got just the job for you". But before he can drop his pants, he's pushed aside by another fellow bandit "Bugger off! I saw her first!" then another one joints in: "I got me here 6 feet of steel sain' the minx's mine!". As the whole camps erupts into violence, the girl very calmly checks if the collar on here neck is straight, buffs up her fingernails, adjusts her hair and waits until all but one of the bandits is left standing, just as if she saw a scene just like that dozens of times. As the man approaches, she cries "Master!" and that's just the first of many cries that will escape her mouth that night... In the morning with his Master sated, she whispers in his ear: "You are so brave and strong Master, I bet you could beat just about anyone" He smiles to himself and starts boasting "Ha! Girl, I could kill a whole band of Forsworn all by myself", the girl squeals with pleasure and awe "What a wonderful idea, and I just happen to know where a Forsworn camp is and I bet they have coffers full of gold". After a few moments the bandit-master finds himself following the girl that leads him to Talos knows where and before he can say "I have a bad feeling about this" they arrive at a Forsworn camp and suddenly he's forced to fight for his life while the girls sits on a nearby rock and tries to look pretty. Overwhelmed by superior number the Nord soon looses the fight and the last sight he sees is that damn girl, kneeling in front of one of the Forsworn, he smiles to himself as he tries to see the Forsworn face "I'll wait for ye in Sovngarde, that girl will send you there before the sun sets". He was right. The basic idea DD and vanilla Skyrim gameplay work at cross purposes, when one tries to give freedom the other limits it, one gives tools to defeat enemies the other makes the character more vulnerable. It is hard (or at least harder) and sometimes impossible to fight while wearing devious devices - so the basic idea is not to. A player character dressed in a collar, cuffs, chains, locks and all the other goodies should be considered helpless and therefore not hostile by anyone (as long as that's all the character wears - so no weapons, spells, armor or clothing). Anyone (normally hostile) can and will rob and rape a character that is helpless but if that character is somehow attractive to the assailant (eg. by being dressed in some fine bondage gear) then a master-slave relation can be formed. The slave will do all the things slaves do, and the master will protect the slave... or die trying. From the slaves perspective the master is expendable, when the current one dies, a new master can be found at any crossroad. The details There are a lot of details that would need to fit together to make this kind of gameplay possible (from crafting, to spells and skills), and I think I have most of them figured out... but the question is: Is anyone interested in my ideas? Would someone be willing to implement them? Because frankly, I know shit about making mods for Skyrim
sapho888 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 In some ways, this is how I use SD+. The debuffs to thieving and the 0 mana make it very difficult to escape by myself as I normally play a healing/ thief/ archer PC. So I often end up trying to lead my owner into bad situations and then sneaking back after they have died to loot the key off their corpse
wezu Posted January 15, 2016 Author Posted January 15, 2016 Well, that's one way, but I was thinking of something more.. em.. complete. Craft (buy/find/steal) your own bondage gear (the better the quality of it, the bigger the chance of a potential master of keeping you), go actively look for a strong npc, then get him better gear, train him in combat skills (offering yourself as a practice dummy), then finally go out doing the vanilla skyrim gameplay while the npc acts more or less like a follower (but this time your the one carrying all the loot ). As soon as you try to act the hero (equipping weapons, spells, armor or clothing) the npc will turn on you and try to kill you (or send you to whatever death alternative and/or slavery mods you got). Bondage gear should be craftable and act as armor. Why? Because crafting is a big part of vanila skyrim and just throwing it away is stupid. If collars, cuffs etc have some defence rating they can be improved as the characters skill improve. They can be made from various materials and classified as either heavy or light armor, so that gaining levels in these skills have some impact - the potential master will make up his mind either to keep you or not based on his level and the quality (defence value) of your bondage gear (arousal, sexual preference, sexual experience and probably some other factor can be added also). Once a character has a master she/he can teach the master combat skills (Archery, One-handed, Two-handed, Destruction) up to the level the player-character has by letting the master train on the slave. Block, and Restoration healing/warding magic will help make the training sessions longer. Enchanting can be used to make magical piercings and plugs that will help keep the right arousal level. Alchemy can be used to craft pheromones to get the same mechanics work on all monsters and animals (well maybe not dragons, automatons). Speech has it's obvious use at persuading the master to let you go to a city to sell all the loot and bring back gold without locking you in too many chastity devices. Some new spells can be added to Ilussion (make npc more or less willing to enslave the player character), Alteration (''slut-skin" - works like all other *skin spells but adds to arousal level without any consequences as long as the spell lasts, can be improved with Mage Armor) and Conjuration (bound bondage gear? IDK) . Sneak, Pickpocket and Lockpick don't need any changes. And so, in this wonderful way all the vanilla skills have a sexualized use. If someone is really willing to make this happen I can help a bit. I have never made any mods for TES, but I am gamedev, a (python) programmer and a 3D and texture artist (not a very good one, but still), I can do the mundane tasks if someone is willing to explain how or give an example (or point to the docs).
Kissinger Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 This sounds p. fucking cool i heartily endorse this mod idea even though i lack skills to contribute to it i think your head is in a p. great place you are to be commended. I recommend you seek out other likeminded modders I know Veladarius often drops tips on CK/modding. It sounds like this would benefit from using resources from one of the dominant follower mods: Maria Eden, Deviously Cursed Loot, Sex Slaves, etc.
Ugluge Posted January 16, 2016 Posted January 16, 2016 This sounds p. fucking cool i heartily endorse this mod idea even though i lack skills to contribute to it i think your head is in a p. great place you are to be commended. I recommend you seek out other likeminded modders I know Veladarius often drops tips on CK/modding. It sounds like this would benefit from using resources from one of the dominant follower mods: Maria Eden, Deviously Cursed Loot, Sex Slaves, etc. I second this motion! I love this idea! I really hope someone with modding skills helps this get up and running.
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