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For some reason, when I'm using the bow animations from PCA, the pinkie and ring finger on my character's right hand twitches when the bow is drawn.

This happens rapidly about once per second.

I tried removing all mods except for FNIS and the problem still existed.

The problem also persists with male bodies, strangely enough.

Does anyone with PCA also have this problem?
Does anyone know what the solution might be?

 

Here is my load order.

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RSkyrimChildren.esm
SGHairPackBase.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
Balanced_Magic.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ImmersiveSpells.esp
Headtracking.esp
Daedric Extra Armor.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Proper Aiming.esp
Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp
Minou Aradia Lace Dress CBBE TBBP.esp
HDT Capes.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RaceMenu.esp
SGHairPackAIO.esp
Elisif Makeover.esp
Facelight.esp
Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
VioLens.esp
chargenexport.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Chaconne.esp
Toccata.esp
No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp
Tropicalpack.esp
DPnTrielekMix.esp
TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
RSChildren - Complete.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Extended Slider Colors.esp
SGEyebrows.esp
Plugin Patcher.esp
VanillaRaces.esp
RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Serana.esp
TrueStorms.esp
TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
XPMSE.esp
FNIS.esp
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
immersive roads.esp
Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
WATER DG + DB.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
SteelBikini.esp
Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
Differently Ebony.esp
Torch Lasts Forever.esp

 

And screenshots.

 

 

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Fingers bent

 

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Normal position

 

 

Posted

It could also be the weight painting of the Fingers.

 

Automated programs can sometimes paint incorrectly on gloves and hands....So that you wind up with overlap of adjacent digits.

 

Its a real issue with animations that have some of the fingers moving independently of one another.

Posted

It could also be the weight painting of the Fingers.

 

Automated programs can sometimes paint incorrectly on gloves and hands....So that you wind up with overlap of adjacent digits.

 

Its a real issue with animations that have some of the fingers moving independently of one another.

Unfortunately, that went above my head a little bit.

What automated programs are you talking about?

Also, can I modify the "weight painting" of the fingers myself?

Posted

Have you fired the bow without a glove on?

 

Have you tried a different set of gloves like gloves from the default game meshes (not a mod glove)?

 

If the animation works properly when using non-modded hands then likely the animation weight painting on the fingers is messed up.

 

 

You can try fiddling with weight paints in Bodyslide/Outfit Studio right away those are free.

 

Meshrigger (free also) is an automated weight painter...It can be pretty accurate but sometimes needs some touch ups by hand...

 

Touching up weight paints free hand can be a real bitch.

 

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Trying my best here to explain that you may not experience the issue with a correctly made glove or hand.

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Posted

Have you fired the bow without a glove on?

 

Have you tried a different set of gloves like gloves from the default game meshes (not a mod glove)?

 

If the animation works properly when using non-modded hands then likely the animation weight painting on the fingers is messed up.

 

 

You can try fiddling with weight paints in Bodyslide/Outfit Studio right away those are free.

 

Meshrigger (free also) is an automated weight painter...It can be pretty accurate but sometimes needs some touch ups by hand...

 

Touching up weight paints free hand can be a real bitch.

 

_______________________

 

Trying my best here to explain that you may not experience the issue with a correctly made glove or hand.

I did try it with default meshes.

I tried it naked with a male player character too. Completely vanilla male body.

Same weird animation twitch.

If weight painting is related to modded meshes, I suspect that something else is the problem.

Posted

If you have ruled out the weight paints on gloves and hands then it may just be that the animation itself has the issue.

 

If that's the case the fix for that is outside of my reach.

 

It'll involve using Blender 2.49b was the last one that I was aware of that was easy enough to port files to nifskope.

 

3DSmax 2012 I know for sure could port files...I think 2014 has a alpha file handler somewhere....

 

That's likely some work with a file that we cant share without getting in trouble.

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