unpronounceable Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 For some reason, when I'm using the bow animations from PCA, the pinkie and ring finger on my character's right hand twitches when the bow is drawn. This happens rapidly about once per second. I tried removing all mods except for FNIS and the problem still existed. The problem also persists with male bodies, strangely enough. Does anyone with PCA also have this problem?Does anyone know what the solution might be? Here is my load order. # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ApachiiHair.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm SGHairPackBase.esm hdtHighHeel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp Balanced_Magic.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp Headtracking.esp Daedric Extra Armor.esp Convenient Horses.esp UIExtensions.esp SkyUI.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Proper Aiming.esp Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp AMatterOfTime.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp Minou Aradia Lace Dress CBBE TBBP.esp HDT Capes.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenu.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp Elisif Makeover.esp Facelight.esp Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp VioLens.esp chargenexport.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp mintylightningmod.esp MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ELFX - Dragonborn.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp Chaconne.esp Toccata.esp No Dragon LODs v2 full.esp Tropicalpack.esp DPnTrielekMix.esp TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Bijin Wives.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Extended Slider Colors.esp SGEyebrows.esp Plugin Patcher.esp VanillaRaces.esp RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp Serana.esp TrueStorms.esp TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Bijin NPCs.esp XPMSE.esp FNIS.esp ELFX - Dawnguard.esp immersive roads.esp Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp WATER DG + DB.esp HDT Piercingsets.esp SteelBikini.esp Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Differently Ebony.esp Torch Lasts Forever.esp And screenshots. Fingers bent Normal position
Gameplayer Posted December 29, 2015 Posted December 29, 2015 It could also be the weight painting of the Fingers. Automated programs can sometimes paint incorrectly on gloves and hands....So that you wind up with overlap of adjacent digits. Its a real issue with animations that have some of the fingers moving independently of one another.
unpronounceable Posted December 30, 2015 Author Posted December 30, 2015 It could also be the weight painting of the Fingers. Automated programs can sometimes paint incorrectly on gloves and hands....So that you wind up with overlap of adjacent digits. Its a real issue with animations that have some of the fingers moving independently of one another. Unfortunately, that went above my head a little bit. What automated programs are you talking about? Also, can I modify the "weight painting" of the fingers myself?
Gameplayer Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 Have you fired the bow without a glove on? Have you tried a different set of gloves like gloves from the default game meshes (not a mod glove)? If the animation works properly when using non-modded hands then likely the animation weight painting on the fingers is messed up. You can try fiddling with weight paints in Bodyslide/Outfit Studio right away those are free. Meshrigger (free also) is an automated weight painter...It can be pretty accurate but sometimes needs some touch ups by hand... Touching up weight paints free hand can be a real bitch. _______________________ Trying my best here to explain that you may not experience the issue with a correctly made glove or hand.
unpronounceable Posted December 30, 2015 Author Posted December 30, 2015 Have you fired the bow without a glove on? Have you tried a different set of gloves like gloves from the default game meshes (not a mod glove)? If the animation works properly when using non-modded hands then likely the animation weight painting on the fingers is messed up. You can try fiddling with weight paints in Bodyslide/Outfit Studio right away those are free. Meshrigger (free also) is an automated weight painter...It can be pretty accurate but sometimes needs some touch ups by hand... Touching up weight paints free hand can be a real bitch. _______________________ Trying my best here to explain that you may not experience the issue with a correctly made glove or hand. I did try it with default meshes. I tried it naked with a male player character too. Completely vanilla male body. Same weird animation twitch. If weight painting is related to modded meshes, I suspect that something else is the problem.
Gameplayer Posted December 30, 2015 Posted December 30, 2015 If you have ruled out the weight paints on gloves and hands then it may just be that the animation itself has the issue. If that's the case the fix for that is outside of my reach. It'll involve using Blender 2.49b was the last one that I was aware of that was easy enough to port files to nifskope. 3DSmax 2012 I know for sure could port files...I think 2014 has a alpha file handler somewhere.... That's likely some work with a file that we cant share without getting in trouble.
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