Lurkermin Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 I'm at my wits end with doing what I can to fix it myself, so it's time to seek out help. Pretty much it goes like this, I can make a fresh new character (run around, do quests and stuff, save, load, anything I wanna do) without any issue whatsoever until the character levels up to level 3 (or higher depending on when I have to turn Skyrim off) then whenever I decide I want to play this character again and have some more fun in Skyrim, it feels like the game crashes when I try to load "because reason".By that I mean I could power my pc down for the night then in the morning try and load up a save I was playing that same night It would crash 100% of the time on loading Here is my load order, it is 240 plus plugins GameMode=Skyrim Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1CRB.esm=1CreatureFramework.esm=1SexLab.esm=1DynamicLoot.esm=1SGHairPackBase.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1Evil Lair of Hydra.esm=1Dragon Break.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1Wildlings.esm=10db2SECOND.esm=1BBLuxurySuite.esm=1Inn Girls Resources.esm=1DarkHaven.esm=1Gray Fox Cowl.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1moonpath.esm=1daymoyl.esm=1RSkyrimChildren.esm=1MagicDuelReborn.esm=1Skykids.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1notice board.esp=1revylrieShrubRemover.esp=1DarkHaven.esp=1DarkHavenUpdate01.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1AutoSwimsuit.esp=0MoreNastyCritters.esp=1SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1NK_EyeCusomizationOverhaul.esp=1DynamicLoot_DB.esp=1DynamicLoot_DG.esp=1LeftHandRings.esp=1LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp=0SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1SexLabNudesuitVariants.esp=1SGHairPackAIO.esp=1SL Deadly Drain.esp=1Tempestarmor7b.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=0OpenFaceHelmets.esp=0zzzSXP.esp=1SlaveTats.esp=1DibellanDefender.esp=1Animated Dragon Wings.esp=1FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp=1KS Hairdo's.esp=1FISS.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1AutoLearnSpell.esp=1WKBendTime.esp=1bodyscars.esp=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1JiubQuestMarkers.esp=1Dawnguard Gauntlets Fix.esp=1Dead Body Collision.esp=1Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1Naruto - Overhaul.esp=1Skyrim+ALL DLC.esp=1More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp=1More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp=1Dragonborn Shout.esp=1DragonShoutVoice.esp=1Snotgurg Equipment HUD.esp=1ForswornHAIR.esp=0FreckleMania.esp=1Immersive detection of NPC.esp=1IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp=1Insignificant Object Remover.esp=1Masked Helmets.esp=1mso- morahir's staff overhaul.esp=1AHZmoreHUD.esp=1NoLeveledItemRewards.esp=1dD - 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follower.esp=0Immersive Music Temples.esp=1Immersive Music.esp=1BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1Godswords - Johnskyrim.esp=1summersetisles.esp=1Recorder Follower Base.esp=1BrynhildrFollower.esp=1nebiafollower.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1BBLSspouse.esp=1Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp=1VioLens.esp=1Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1DragonsDiversified.esp=1Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Forsworn Start.esp=0Lost Magic.esp=1Immersive Speechcraft.esp=1imp_helm_legend.esp=1HoodlessDragonpriestMasks1_0.esp=0Instant spell - 1.1.esp=1LanyaFollower.esp=1LostGrimoire.esp=1OnePieceX.esp=1chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp=1UchihaClan_RemoveSpellTomes.esp=1UchihaClan_SasukeRinnegan.esp=0UltimateDragons.esp=1UnhinderedMagic.esp=1HoodlessDragonpriestMasksPlus1_0.esp=0CreatureSizeVariants.esp=1Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp=1Equipping Overhaul.esp=1Nephilim.esp=1SexLab Slut Shout.esp=1HavenBag.esp=1LaFemmeLycana.esp=1vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp=1Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp=1RosaFollower.esp=1Follower Neisa.esp=1Wrath Of Nature.esp=1FayeRace.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1ClassicClasses.esp=1Brevi_MoonlightTalesEssentials.esp=1Deadly Wenches.esp=1ExtraBanditVoicetypes.esp=1Hoodless Archmage - OE.esp=0Hateful Wenches 10 percent patch.esp=1NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp=1JaxonzUtilities.esp=1multicast.esp=1Tenebrae.esp=1CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp=1LostMagicPart2.esp=1IllusionSpells.esp=1CWINPCImprovements.esp=1HeartBreaker.esp=1The Ningheim.esp=1HalfkhajiitfollowerbasedonHScat.esp=1notice board - dragonborn patch.esp=1SummonSuccubus.esp=1SexLabStopCombat.esp=1XPMSE.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1SkyTweak.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1da_alternate_start_extension.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1ASIS-Dependency.esp=1Extended UI.esp=1ZaFromTheDeepsV2.esp=1Auto Health, Magicka and Stamina.esp=1Perks Per Level.esp=1ForgottenCity.esp=1ASIS.esp=1
Old Book Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 You could try loading from a safe start. I.e., first create a safe save at level 1, alone in an interior cell and with no magic effects running. QAsmoke works well, or to be even safe you could use the Vampire Dream World (I don't remember the code, but you can google it). Now, load that save. Then load the save that's refusing to load. This is a common problem with heavily modded games and large saves. The Skyrim Modding Guide just a few posts up is full of tips that might help.
Lurkermin Posted October 16, 2015 Author Posted October 16, 2015 Just gave it a go, unfortunately the crash still persists. This is the first time in my 4 years of heavily modding my Skyrim that was entirely tied to being over a certain level or rather, that what it seems to be tied to.
Cock Sucker Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 That's one messy load order! Don't see the unofficial patches either.
Lurkermin Posted October 16, 2015 Author Posted October 16, 2015 That's one messy load order! Don't see the unofficial patches either. Yeah, I never did install any of the unofficial patch mods in any of my loadouts of Skyrim. guess I can give 'em an install real quick and see if that has some magic in it. Alright... I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor, but It works fine now. Amazing.
Cock Sucker Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 That's one messy load order! Don't see the unofficial patches either. Yeah, I never did install any of the unofficial patch mods in any of my loadouts of Skyrim. guess I can give 'em an install real quick and see if that has some magic in it. Alright... I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor, but It works fine now. Amazing. just make sure they're in the right load order lol if you want a suggestions? as im not sure if you've just chucked everything in or used boss / loot? a good load order is like (my own personal preference) ESMs skyrim, then update, then patch dawnguard then patch hearthfire then patch dragonborn then patch all hair esm's Anim esm's, like zaz (don't forget to install the zaz textures and zaz patch) race compatability esm then sexlab.esm creaturesframe esm (you seem to load this in before SL when SL should logically be the first) sexlab aroused esm {any other esm's} also try and keep similar names together it looks a lot neater when bug hunting. ESP's official texture packs 1-3 then the patch for them nonsexlab animations pack (worth getting) skyui, ui-ext, {or ui mods} racemenu esps xpmse ragdoll n' forces {any hair esp's} {any other body mods} {sexlab esp's} {any hearthfire / dragonb / dawnguard changing mods} {any follower mods} any other esp's {again keeping similar names together if you can} {armour / clothing replacer type mods} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ you should also have hentai creatures loaded AFTER sexlabnudecreatures db+dg have you downloaded and run fnis? anything animation wise like SL ext. needs it (and needs to be run again after installing new animation mods etc) also a good tip when starting a new character is NOT to have any mods running (uncheck them don't uninstall) till after you leave the first cave after helgen (if your playing the original way) only have the DLC + patches and any hair, anim esm. running ie keep it all to a minimum till you've properly started the game and your free to go your own way etc (then gradually add a few at a time then test then save if ok then add a few more) as that can cause issues early on.
Lurkermin Posted October 17, 2015 Author Posted October 17, 2015 That's one messy load order! Don't see the unofficial patches either. Yeah, I never did install any of the unofficial patch mods in any of my loadouts of Skyrim. guess I can give 'em an install real quick and see if that has some magic in it. Alright... I'm sitting here with my jaw on the floor, but It works fine now. Amazing. just make sure they're in the right load order lol if you want a suggestions? as im not sure if you've just chucked everything in or used boss / loot? a good load order is like (my own personal preference) ESMs skyrim, then update, then patch dawnguard then patch hearthfire then patch dragonborn then patch all hair esm's Anim esm's, like zaz (don't forget to install the zaz textures and zaz patch) race compatability esm then sexlab.esm creaturesframe esm (you seem to load this in before SL when SL should logically be the first) sexlab aroused esm {any other esm's} also try and keep similar names together it looks a lot neater when bug hunting. ESP's official texture packs 1-3 then the patch for them nonsexlab animations pack (worth getting) skyui, ui-ext, {or ui mods} racemenu esps xpmse ragdoll n' forces {any hair esp's} {any other body mods} {sexlab esp's} {any hearthfire / dragonb / dawnguard changing mods} {any follower mods} any other esp's {again keeping similar names together if you can} {armour / clothing replacer type mods} ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ you should also have hentai creatures loaded AFTER sexlabnudecreatures db+dg have you downloaded and run fnis? anything animation wise like SL ext. needs it (and needs to be run again after installing new animation mods etc) also a good tip when starting a new character is NOT to have any mods running (uncheck them don't uninstall) till after you leave the first cave after helgen (if your playing the original way) only have the DLC + patches and any hair, anim esm. running ie keep it all to a minimum till you've properly started the game and your free to go your own way etc (then gradually add a few at a time then test then save if ok then add a few more) as that can cause issues early on. yeah, problems magically solved now (now to wait for Skyrim to throw another tantrum) and this load order I've got is actually what NMM, Wryebash, and LOOT all say is proper and as far as i see is fairly stable. the only time i shuffle it around these days is when I see I accidentally misplaced something (like the placement of my MNC set of mods [i usually notice it when creatures have no genitalia or animation]) And as far as keeping things to a minimum, I actually keep a perfectly cleaned, painstakingly MCM configured, base character that is waiting for me to customize it then take it through the daymol starts
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