Death Alternative issue..?

Josephine Loire · June 21, 2015

Ok, here i am again. So, i have a weird issue, on which, after entering bleed out state, my character dies (It falls on the ground like a stone) and then my last save file load. It should instead crawl on the ground while the enemies keep attacking me, until my red bar is empty. (I think everyone knows how this works.. but, well..)

This is my load order:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

SharedSeranaDialogue.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

PubicMeshColorRE.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

BeeingFemale.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

Inn Girls Resources.esm

daymoyl.esm

FM - HaafingarHall.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

dcpack1.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

SSv2.esp

FlameAtronachArmor.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

SlaveTats.esp

NewmillerPiercingsUNPB.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

NPC_Overhaul_V_1_.esp

Blush When Aroused.esp

Deviously Enslaved.esp

SexLabGenderChange.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

SexLabDangerousNights2.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

display-model.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

EstrusChaurus.esp

SSAssist.esp

HDT Havok Object.esp

FullBootForKKSA.esp

Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

MoreNastyCritters.esp

Extended UI.esp

pchsImmersivePlugs.esp

ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

PuppetMasterSwallow.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp

SGHairPackAIO.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

SkyUI.esp

sanguinesDebauchery.esp

Immersive Wenches.esp

SD Cages.esp

zdd.esp

iHUD.esp

slaverun.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

Cum Shot Brothel.esp

HentaiCreatures.esp

SexLab More Creatures.esp

Cloaks.esp

AliciaPainSlut.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

Marriable Serana.esp

Abigail The Maid.esp

prostitutes.esp

Deviously Cursed Loot.esp

AK- Alternate Actors.esp

BrynhildrFollower.esp

Shia - follower.esp

PrivateNeedsNew.esp

SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp

Aradia Devious Expansion.esp

Sunsakuka's Follower.esp

FM - HHall Exterior.esp

SexLab_Dialogues.esp

BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

MiasLair.esp

Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp

BTRH_Waifu.esp

SBF All In One + DLC.esp

SOS - Shop.esp

FM - UNP Merchants.esp

Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp

DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp

SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

RosaFollower.esp

SlaverunEnforcer.esp

FNISspells.esp

shiroya-xuniana.esp

zzEstrus.esp

SerenityTest.esp

XNLLT.esp

ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp

A Felicidade.esp

TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp

Mememe harness.esp

Elis Girls (Barbarella and Fatima).esp

PuppetMaster.esp

YuiH StandAlone Follower S2.esp

LycHairstyler.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp

autotravel.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

ImmerSlave.esp

SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp

SimpleSlavery.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

SimpleSlavery and daymol_DawnguardAddon are not actually Looted because i tried to disable them, but i think it's some other mods or, maybe Death Alternative itself. I don't get why tho.

I'll post my papyrus log.

Papyrus.0.log

Thanks for the help! I tried to disable Defeat on the MCM menu, so.. it shouldn't be that. Any tips?

Suludi · June 21, 2015

Does this happen all the time? I think DA has an option that says you die immediately if a hit takes more than 200 health points. Maybe try raising this value?

Alpia · June 21, 2015

What the poster above said also make sure you only have set it to bleedout by default its set to ragdoll&bleedout. Also if there is not after bleedout scenario it will simply trigger the vanilla death so make sure there are scenarios available = scenarios at least at 1

Josephine Loire · June 21, 2015

Yes, this happens everytime. It does the same even if i use only bleed out. (It always worked with bleed out and ragdolls)

They do not hit me that hard. I'll try to explain better:

I go versus an enemy, even the weakest that i can one shot with a single arrow. (A Bandit) I let him kill me, it takes really long since i'm level 22 by now.

Then the bleed out trigger. Sometimes i get even the Necromantic Absorption message, use a Dragon Soul or Leave fate to chance. (This means that DA trigger the event..) But no matter what i do, my character falls to the ground, i get the "You still have some life on you" message (Like the bleed out insta ended) and the last save file will load.

I tought it could be Simple Slavery, but it does the same even if i remove it. And almost every mod has the default option, i didn't modify anything.

Alpia · June 21, 2015

the necromantic absorption message is "before" the bleedout then you go on the knee and the bleedout bar appears after its emptyd the blackout events will trigger if there are any available if not you die the vanilla death. This is not caused by any of the mods you have for triggering events.

health 0% ---> bleedout event ------> extra bleedout bar appears ----> after empty events under the mcm blackout tab trigger
\-----> if not empty you stand up with the "still some life in you message ---> starts all over again

If you use mods like defeat sd+ simple slavers etc. you should let it on bleedout only the ragdoll only causes problems.
Since you try'd out the solutions did you try it on a new game? if it works on a new game you have messed up whatever script.

I'm not familiar with papyrus and its messages, but for me this looks like there got a defeat scene triggered so did it work?

[06/21/2015 - 03:09:21AM] daymoyl - Anim Bleedout -> Normal
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:21AM] daymoyl - Player Recovered
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:21AM] Defeat DA Trigger Start
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:21AM] daymoyl - SetBlackscreenEffect(False)
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:22AM] daymoyl - received Ragdoll Start anim event
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:22AM] Defeat: Aggressor slots -> [None, None, None, None, None]
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:22AM] Defeat: Partners slots -> [None, None, None, None, None]
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:23AM] [CRDE] enslave: 66 / talk: 60 / sex: 2 / Bandit Chief
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:24AM] [CRDE] do sex convo
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:24AM] [CRDE] doing sex convo with Bandit Chief
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:24AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp68"
stack:
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.tryEnslaveEvent() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.OnUpdate() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:24AM] Error: Cannot call GetStage() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [None].MG08ParalysisEffectScript.OnEffectStart() - "MG08ParalysisEffectScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:24AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"
stack:
   [None].MG08ParalysisEffectScript.OnEffectStart() - "MG08ParalysisEffectScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:09:25AM] Defeat: Player victim - End scene, Restored.

again here it triggers, but as said I don't know papyrus to see whats the problem

[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] daymoyl - Trigger!
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] daymoyl - OnEnterBleedout - No Hit
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] Error: (00000014): is invulnerable and cannot be killed..
stack:
   [ (00000014)].Actor.Kill() - "<native>" Line ?
   [alias Player on quest AKControlQuest (63000D92)].AKControlPlayerScript.OnEnterBleedout() - "AKControlPlayerScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] daymoyl - On Dying
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] daymoyl - received Ragdoll Start anim event
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] daymoyl - Anim Normal -> Bleedout
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] Error: (00000014): Actor is dead, cannot start combat.
stack:
   [ (000C5688)].Actor.StartCombat() - "<native>" Line ?
   [daymoyl_Monitor (18000D62)].daymoyl_monitorscript.StartBleedOut() - "daymoyl_monitorscript.psc" Line ?
   [daymoyl_Monitor (18000D62)].daymoyl_monitorscript.onBeginState() - "daymoyl_monitorscript.psc" Line ?
   [daymoyl_Monitor (18000D62)].daymoyl_monitorscript.GotoState() - "Form.psc" Line ?
   [daymoyl_Monitor (18000D62)].daymoyl_monitorscript.TriggerDefeat() - "daymoyl_monitorscript.psc" Line ?
   [alias thePlayer on quest daymoyl_Monitor (18000D62)].daymoyl_monitorplayerscript.OnHit() - "daymoyl_monitorplayerscript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetStage() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [None].MG08ParalysisEffectScript.OnEffectStart() - "MG08ParalysisEffectScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp1"
stack:
   [None].MG08ParalysisEffectScript.OnEffectStart() - "MG08ParalysisEffectScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] SD DA enslavement bleedout: condition
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] Error: Cannot call GetRace() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.tryEnslaveEvent() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.OnUpdate() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] Error: Cannot call IsPlayable() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.tryEnslaveEvent() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.OnUpdate() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:55AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp65"
stack:
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.tryEnslaveEvent() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
   [crdePlayerMonitor (2A001827)].crdeplayermonitorscript.OnUpdate() - "crdePlayerMonitorScript.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] Error: Unable to call GetTargetActor - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.GetTargetActor() - "<native>" Line ?
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] Error: Cannot call GetFactionRank() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [CFQuestFramework (0D000D62)].creatureframework.IsAroused() - "CreatureFramework.psc" Line ?
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp266"
stack:
   [CFQuestFramework (0D000D62)].creatureframework.IsAroused() - "CreatureFramework.psc" Line ?
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] Error: Unable to call GetTargetActor - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.GetTargetActor() - "<native>" Line ?
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] Error: Cannot call IsDead() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp39"
stack:
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:11:58AM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type
stack:
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?
   [Active effect 6 on (00019DDF)].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line ?
[06/21/2015 - 03:12:01AM] VM is freezing...
[06/21/2015 - 03:12:01AM] VM is frozen

EDIT: after googling a bit I see you have AK- Alternate Actors.esp this is known to be incompatible with DA get rid of it try again

[06/21/2015 - 03:11:54AM] Error: (00000014): Actor is dead, cannot start combat. <- this is your culprit google error messages allways helps like in this case

source

http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1826660-technical-support/page-33

In response to post #21838144. #21838574 is also a reply to the same post.

Yes, thank you, after disabling Alternate Actors it works again. Looks like that the problem is that AA have a feature that player will became a ghost after death. Even it disabled by default it could rewrite death mechanics.

Josephine Loire · June 21, 2015

*Facepalm

It was that, thanks a lot dude. Didn't see the compatibility issue between the two mods.

Alpia · June 21, 2015

you're welcome wasnt easy for me neither after I ran out of ideas I looked up the papyurs with ctrl+f and searched for any daymoyl messages and googled the only error messaged that made any sense and found the way to the nexus support forum there and double checked on the daymoyl nexus site for the actor mod to be the problem

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