slvsaris Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 I have been trying to figure this one out for a day or so now. I am crashing when trying to enter Whiterun. I even tried COCing from the console at the main menu, and tried several save games. I seem to be able to fast travle and enter other places. I am pretty sure there is something in my load order causing it, I am just having no luck finding it. I would like to say the save was fine a few days ago, but I found this in a new start after playing for a day or so, so this issue may have been there from the start. I have the latest FINIS and SKSE installed, and am using NVAC to help out with some exception handling. Also using the latest LOOT. I have run LOOT several times, have tried disabling the last few mods I added, and even tried swearing at the computer! If there is anything else that I can post to help, please let me know. 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Gameplayer Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Its very likely that your not using. SKSE memory fix by Sheson. Some of the SKSE installations don't properly apply this patch. So Sheson also made a way to see if the patch was indeed working and see just how much of Skyrim's 3.1 G needed to be devoted to loading of Cells and Actors. Shesons Memory Block Log. <use that If it turns out that SKSE mem fix isn't working than use Shesons Skyrim Memory Editor, also called SSME Also Sheson says if you swear to give him your first born it may help....not kidding its on his description page
slvsaris Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 Its very likely that your not using. SKSE memory fix by Sheson. Some of the SKSE installations don't properly apply this patch. So Sheson also made a way to see if the patch was indeed working and see just how much of Skyrim's 3.1 G needed to be devoted to loading of Cells and Actors. Shesons Memory Block Log. <use that If it turns out that SKSE mem fix isn't working than use Shesons Skyrim Memory Editor, also called SSME Also Sheson says if you swear to give him your first born it may help....not kidding its on his description page Pretty sure it is a mod conflict, just not having any luck finding it. I am using the SKSE memory patch. I should probably reenable the memory block log just to make sure I am still in the range that I set. Thing is though, the crashes are only happening in the large cities (as far as I can tell anyway, I have not visited them all)
Gameplayer Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 It's not likely that a mod conflict is causing your crash. That's actually extremely unlikely. Its more likely that you either ran out of memory for loading npc's and cells Or You have overloaded your Papyrous Script System, which is incredibly common experience. Another likely issue is that your hardware just isn't enough to run all the different mods that your trying to load in those cities. --------- What I'm trying to get across is that Mod Conflicts don't cause crashes. Because conflicts always have conflict winners, and the winner decides the outcome meaning you will absolutely not see the effects of the loser. ---------- Here are some other possible issues. Installation Order Vs Load Order There are a number of mod combinations such as Sexlab with SOS that an issue with order of installation can be a problem. Shouldn't result in a crash however. Example that can have a crash. You install Better Vampires and then you install some other Vampire Mod that overwrites the Script for Vampires. Better Vampire esp comes after the other mod, your BV.esp calls on the Vampire script and finds the wrong script and tries to use it anyway, BLAM crash. ^That's a load order crash issue example but its never going to get resolved with LOOT. To have an actual load order crash. You would need to have a situation where you had an Overhaul that covered a lot of different things that got overwrote by some other mod....The issue could arise because the Overhaul would then use a script to call on a function that was overwritten by another mod. However in this situation a simple LOOT use would or should fix this and furthermore it would be fairly well known unless the mod your using is not mainstream. Then comes the question why use that other mod?
Gameplayer Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 I think your Load Order needs trimming. I don't think trying to use Cutting Room Floor alongside Captured Dreams is going to work out either. You have quite a few WIP mods. You are trying to use Submit and Defeat alongside each other. Submit would need a player made patch to not eat up all your script time, its in the comments somewhere thing is I don't use it. You really need to merge those armors down into one ESP with TesVedit and Xedit script, both are on Nexus.
Anatriax Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 ... And I thought my modlist was huge. Sheesh. Yeah you might want to trim out some of those mods that do the same thing. Like Gameplayer said Submit and Defeat are basically the same thing, one is just more streamlined and works MUCH better (Defeat). If you're crashing in major cities, he's right. It is not a mod conflict crash. Either you have WAY too many scripts running in those areas (Cloak spells probably for NPCs) or you're running out of memory (either VRAM or actual RAM, from not setting up/applying SSME properly.)
slvsaris Posted June 5, 2015 Author Posted June 5, 2015 I have memory covered I believe, so its probably scripts. I have been meaning to combine all of those armor mods, just have not done it yet.
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