Niggabanana Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Well this might be a little odd to guess. Here's how it is, Sounds of Skyrim is a great sound mod that adds miscellanous background noise to specific cells in skyrim. From noisy people at the pub to the eerie noises in a crypt SoS truly is a must have for players. The disadvantage of it is if you use any weather and lighting overhaul mod like CoT & ELFX/RLO, SoS requires you to have a compatibility patch so it cou'd work flawlessly with these mods that alter weather sounds and interior sounds / lighting. My question is if theirs a way to make the compatibility patches mergeable in a Batch Patch to make the Load order a little lighter. Since these patches takes a toll in your Load Order and kinda makes Skyrim's Load a little bit longer(System specification may vary the performance). So i appreciate if their IS anyway on making it mergeable.
Spyder Arachnid Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Weather and Ambience Overhaul. Seriously right up your alley. It is wicked awesome, and combines all those mods into one, making them all compatible with each other.
Anatriax Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Weather and Ambience Overhaul. Seriously right up your alley. It is wicked awesome, and combines all those mods into one, making them all compatible with each other. I'm going to give this mod a try later tonight, and see if I like it. If I do, I'll swap it into my guide instead of Pure Weather. Thanks for this. You just made my constant trolling of the forums worth-while (other than providing the little help that I do sometimes)
Vykroft Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Same here, I wasn't aware of the existence of that patch, thank for the link. I'll have to give it a try this weekend.
Niggabanana Posted May 21, 2015 Author Posted May 21, 2015 Weather and Ambience Overhaul. Seriously right up your alley. It is wicked awesome, and combines all those mods into one, making them all compatible with each other. Seriously i didn't know that this kind of mod exist!!! Thank you sir!!! not to make my load lighter @_@. Although the patch requires me to install several other mods, and that's a bummer since my system's GPU(Noob trap DDR3 Powercolor Radeon HD7750 2GB 128-bit) can't handle much of CoT and RLO's lighting and weather transformation, i can play at 29-41FPS outside(Min. 30.1) and 60+ inside(Vsync off) i dont know what option of the Patch i need!
Spyder Arachnid Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Ah, yeah the whole mashup is rather performance intensive. Meant to be used with a higher end rig, as it is also pretty script heavy. If you want a more performance friendly weather thingy, check out Purity instead. It's not as heavy as CoT is and actually in my opinion, looks better overall. Lighting wise, I'd say get rid of RLO and go with Relighting Skyrim and Enhanced Lighting for ENB. Again more performance friendly and it looks tons better (best lighting mod out there). Forgot to mention as well, you can merge SoS and all the patches just fine together. In fact, that Weather and Ambience Overhaul mod, I merged all those files together into one esp (except for the Climates of Tamriel.esm) and it all worked just fine together. Will definitely save room on your load order.
Gameplayer Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Sounds awesome, I really liked the Sounds of Skyrim and stuck by it even when people were claiming save bloat which was just a load of croak really, cause all modded games get some bloat as is over time. Thing is I should be playing the modded game I have right now D:
Anatriax Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Weather and Ambience Overhaul. Seriously right up your alley. It is wicked awesome, and combines all those mods into one, making them all compatible with each other. This is amazing! I'll be incorporating it into my guide once I get everything ready for v1.1, along with iNeed, Wet and Cold, and Frostfall.
Niggabanana Posted May 24, 2015 Author Posted May 24, 2015 Ah, yeah the whole mashup is rather performance intensive. Meant to be used with a higher end rig, as it is also pretty script heavy. If you want a more performance friendly weather thingy, check out Purity instead. It's not as heavy as CoT is and actually in my opinion, looks better overall. Lighting wise, I'd say get rid of RLO and go with Relighting Skyrim and Enhanced Lighting for ENB. Again more performance friendly and it looks tons better (best lighting mod out there). Forgot to mention as well, you can merge SoS and all the patches just fine together. In fact, that Weather and Ambience Overhaul mod, I merged all those files together into one esp (except for the Climates of Tamriel.esm) and it all worked just fine together. Will definitely save room on your load order. Yeah i was thinking of permanently removing RLO in my Load order. RLO is a great mod but since it's not supported anymore / forgotten by the developers of the mod, most fans just created patches to fix the issues left-behind by RLO with sadly unfixed to this day. Most patch consist of Scripts so removing is quite a task and may leave some damage to saves that already has these patches installed. Anyways i would like to try merging all the SoS patches and SoS itself using TES5Edit. Purity is a good choice i guess when it comes to overall enhancement, i've used it in a test save and the performance impact is quite low compare to major Weather and Lighting overall mods, though having SMIM and other texture mods, the performance gain was eaten by them :/. I'm still trying to understand the merging method in which i deactivated all of my SoS mod and patches then created a Mergepatch in TES5Edit. Not sure it'll work fine. Edit: Just tried merging it, seems that TES5Edit can't detect SoS and won't get it to the merge patch, dunno followed the video tutorial and did everything by the book. Load Order: Skyrim.esm CRC: C665FD56 Update.esm CRC: 75967E61 C.Location, Delev, Invent, Relev Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp CRC: 45A699F Version: 2.0.8 C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.LTemplate, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, Stats Dawnguard.esm CRC: 58065992 C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp CRC: 978D216D Version: 2.0.8 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats HearthFires.esm CRC: E06FDE6A C.Location, Graphics, Invent Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp CRC: 6D0E4588 Version: 2.0.8 C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound Dragonborn.esm CRC: 5CB90338 C.Location, Graphics, Invent, Names Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp CRC: 7BD54BF8 Version: 2.0.8 C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, Stats Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm CRC: FE33A011 Falskaar.esm CRC: 7889C5B8 Version: 1.1.4 SkyMoMod.esm CRC: A9576551 Delev, Relev ApachiiHair.esm CRC: 783F7167 Version: 1.4 hdtHighHeel.esm CRC: 95D50087 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm CRC: AC4A653A ClimatesOfTamriel.esm CRC: 918881A7 Version: 3.1 Warning: Due to conflicts between Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and ClimatesOfTamriel.esm it is recommended you use the appropriate compatibility patch found here. SGHairPackBase.esm CRC: 50A31397 TERAArmors.esm CRC: 21AC1D97 HighResTexturePack01.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack02.esp CRC: D596F02A HighResTexturePack03.esp CRC: D596F02A Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp CRC: 7EBC542 Version: 1.1.9 Cutting Room Floor.esp CRC: 42023146 Version: 1.1.2 C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, C.RecordFlags, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Stats Delphine Makeover.esp CRC: ED0A5060 TreaclemanFalskaarPatch.esp CRC: 60CAAE03 Convenient Horses.esp CRC: A2C92D5C Version: 14950 Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function. WetandCold.esp CRC: BEAB0A2F Version: 1.422 Character Creation Overhaul.esp CRC: A15636A6 AGTweaks - Extra Effects.esp CRC: D18AAA8C Resistance Restrictions Removed.esp CRC: 3AD7109B Purewaters.esp CRC: B60AD0B3 Version: 5.0 Falskaar Wildlife.esp CRC: A03CDC29 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp CRC: BA7A1F9 CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp CRC: 11A2B7FD Chesko_WearableLantern.esp CRC: 1537EE33 blessarmors.esp CRC: 9B0A6A85 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp CRC: 4B399546 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CRC: F7D0C971 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Weathers.esp CRC: 6933C020 Version: 4.0.8.02 CharacterMakingExtender.esp CRC: 91716407 ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp CRC: 4BCCD60C CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp CRC: 3914E81E DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp CRC: 6747C29A Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for "bDoDepthOfField". Make sure it is set to 1. When Vampires Attack.esp CRC: FDE4336 Version: 2.0.1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CRC: 9FFF2A85 Version: 3.1 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp CRC: 6DEDE258 Version: 3.1 CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp CRC: 95609FCF Better Dynamic Snow.esp CRC: F3204EF1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CRC: 4AAE4CD8 EnhancedBlood-ImprovedCombatSounds.esp CRC: 38CB3EFE dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp CRC: 60B480B dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp CRC: 6C2D97C4 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp CRC: EEF1ED74 Version: 3.1 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp CRC: C8367E65 AMatterOfTime.esp CRC: 512CD10C Version: 2.00 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp CRC: 910FBBF3 Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif. RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp CRC: 5B4AE07 EpisodeParallax.esp CRC: A5B27576 HDT System Tera BOOTS.esp CRC: B566F039 FireAndIceOverhaul.esp CRC: 49B8252B Grass On Steroids.esp CRC: 5CDAC522 Dead Body Collision.esp CRC: 8853B30B Headtracking.esp CRC: 2856EB9F CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp CRC: 856DA318 Purewaters-Falskaar.esp CRC: 6642343F SGHairPackAIO.esp CRC: B5571BE8 Bounty Gold.esp CRC: ADA1EFAE Version: 1.0 iHUD.esp CRC: 6098B756 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp CRC: 8BC509D7 Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp. SkyCompleteLegendary.esp CRC: CFAB1B9F Duel - Combat Realism.esp CRC: 8EE518DC CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp CRC: C70F65 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp CRC: 3A2624E4 Version: 3.0.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp CRC: F1CD324B RichMerchants.esp CRC: E9C519B5 Relev SkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.esp CRC: B6AACC7F SkyFalls + SkyMills Falskaar.esp CRC: BBA604B9 SkyUI.esp CRC: 9330CAF7 Version: 4.1 Dual Sheath Redux.esp CRC: 49778E0B Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+ UnlimitedBookshelves.esp CRC: A870DB27 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp CRC: D6C72A3C Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp CRC: 9229A0B4 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp CRC: BDBD40DB SoS - Civilization.esp CRC: 5EF1D362 Version: 1.02 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp CRC: 420E3ABA Version: 4.0.8.02 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp CRC: A188A269 Version: 4.0.8.02 Note: The order of 'Major City Interiors.esp' and 'Dawnguard Interiors.esp' is interchangeable. Here is a note from RLO author, Daemonui, about the differences you will see. RLO_Torches_Flicker.esp CRC: 98B0A258 torches for RL (happy medium).esp CRC: 9FDDC2E6 RealShelter.esp CRC: A053C735 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp CRC: A82D649E Note: Use only one Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization and CoT patch. SoS - The Dungeons.esp CRC: 79377267 Version: 1.23 Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes. DynamicMerchants.esp CRC: 1431BE7D ArchmageTolfdir.esp CRC: B1D82D4B BF.esp CRC: B0C1D34A Immersive Weapons.esp CRC: E41D31D Delev, Relev SBF All In One + DLC.esp CRC: 83724FAF RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp CRC: 3B83F5EA Version: 4.0.8.02 TES5EditMerged.esp CRC: 7867BE01 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants.esp CRC: F9184B91 Version: 6 Note: Use only one Height Adjusted Races*.esp. Height Adjusted Races - Dragonborn.esp CRC: D04A1C6D Version: 6 Note: Use only one Height Adjusted Races*.esp. EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp CRC: A1C64FA5 Height Adjusted Races - Dawnguard.esp CRC: ED813AB7 Version: 6 Note: Use only one Height Adjusted Races*.esp. Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp CRC: 2A9F7DED Version: 7.1 Delev, Relev Civil War Repairs.esp CRC: 28840D9 SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp CRC: D43E530C BulwarkRugFix.esp CRC: F1CC54CF Run For Your Lives.esp CRC: B7BAFE68 Version: 2.0.3 FNISspells.esp CRC: 4F3339DE SMIM-Merged-All.esp CRC: 46D0D2C0 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp CRC: 984EE262 Version: 4.0.7a Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp CRC: 8669F9B1 Version: 2.1 SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp CRC: 4CD19713 Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp CRC: 8DA6BC8F Immersive Patrols II.esp CRC: 9A64E3F9 GCE Follower All In One.esp CRC: 89182473 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp CRC: FBFBE09C SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp CRC: 92593BC1 SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp CRC: 9B0165EC SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp CRC: FA28D596 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp CRC: 7938E7F0 DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp CRC: 143CDB7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp CRC: C10FA967 BlackSacramentArmor.esp CRC: D43D432B WintermystPatcher.esp CRC: F057B870 Imaginator BETA.esp CRC: FB3A2B27 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp CRC: 36966A9C SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp CRC: 5202996 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp CRC: D3902EBD SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeonLighting.esp CRC: B49C660D TERA Weapons.esp CRC: 2B1892C5 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp CRC: 3F40CC78 Version: 1.8 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp CRC: FC447339 Version: 9 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp CRC: 8617DA3B UltimateDragons.esp CRC: 515F5591 WetandCold - Ashes.esp CRC: 1510365E Version: 1.09 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp CRC: EA95B2C5 Version: 3.0.1 C.Location Bashed Patch, 0.esp CRC: 218BC9BD Version: 107 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp CRC: 365DCE32
Niggabanana Posted May 24, 2015 Author Posted May 24, 2015 Sounds awesome, I really liked the Sounds of Skyrim and stuck by it even when people were claiming save bloat which was just a load of croak really, cause all modded games get some bloat as is over time. Thing is I should be playing the modded game I have right now D: I think why they say the mod causes savegame bloat is the fact that it has script, and you know how script runs right? piling into another script for it to run in an organized manner and yes eventually all savegames will have bloat but that is dependent to the user of his/her save. Those that complain about the mod being "Savegame bloat cause" are those who are new to modding or installed a ton of scripted mod to a weak machine therefore eventually ruining their savegame with slow response since script needs time to run and that depends on your system, a weak GPU is one issue for them, another is their FPS, lower FPS on a heavy scripted save specially those who previously removed a scripted mod and cleaned it to prevent any problems of corrupting their save will run in with this issue called "Script Lag" i even have it with my 300 hour playthrough though a solution for this is a high FPS count for the script to run smoothly and that is the issue for me, for them it might be their ignorance in maintaining their Savegame health / lack of discipline when it comes to modding Skyrim. This mod doesn't do much to cause Bloat though it is one of those mod that pile up script to your Papyrus in order to run it's sounds accordingly with your environment so a perfect solution for some folks that complains about it's bloat cause is a hardware upgrade or trimming down your script mods installed. I tried a new playthrough since my old one has the case of Script lag and has slow script response. In a new game the scripts runs fine even under low FPS count, as you can see overtime savegames are slowly responding to your hotkey presses due to "Bloat" and script lagging. But other users that have higher rigs doesn't have this problems, only mid-low rigs.
Gameplayer Posted May 24, 2015 Posted May 24, 2015 Dang, I always suspected the FPS and script system were closely linked. Also figured that the quality of the parts in machine such as the RAM and Harddisk were just as important for moving information quickly ( not talking cpu or gpu I mean the other parts ).
Niggabanana Posted May 29, 2015 Author Posted May 29, 2015 Dang, I always suspected the FPS and script system were closely linked. Also figured that the quality of the parts in machine such as the RAM and Harddisk were just as important for moving information quickly ( not talking cpu or gpu I mean the other parts ). There is some factors that can make your game run smooth or problematic. RAM isn't a major factor but an essential part to be mentioned since Skyrim eats only 2GB on it's Vanilla setup a minimum 4GB RAM is enough i guess, Running it with Memory patch and mods may require you to acquire 8GB or higher, my Skyrim eats at least 3.5GB since i patched it's memory allocation via SMM though the changes are not noticeable through gameplay since i'm using an old save but some noticeable changes are the amount of actors that can pop-up in your view without crashing your game. Another thing is your Hard drive. There are some tweaks and methods available for those who can't afford a SSD or simply has their Skyrim installed in an HDD instead of an SSD. Some methods are freeing space, defragmenting, RAMdisk is quite popular for MSI users since it's a partitioning method by MSI that makes THAT partitioned drive to run faster and response more quickly than it's regular partition. This days RAM is now on it's DDR4 model that can acquire a monstrous 32GB - 64GB with high MHz and more gaming option and overclocking tweaks that can be done. Same goes for SSD since it's racking up more GB than before, 128GB was the most space you can see on an SSD during 2009-2011 i guess then 256GB -500GB are starting to pop-up. It'll be soon for a 1TB SSD to come out of the market.
Niggabanana Posted May 31, 2015 Author Posted May 31, 2015 Ah, yeah the whole mashup is rather performance intensive. Meant to be used with a higher end rig, as it is also pretty script heavy. If you want a more performance friendly weather thingy, check out Purity instead. It's not as heavy as CoT is and actually in my opinion, looks better overall. Lighting wise, I'd say get rid of RLO and go with Relighting Skyrim and Enhanced Lighting for ENB. Again more performance friendly and it looks tons better (best lighting mod out there). Forgot to mention as well, you can merge SoS and all the patches just fine together. In fact, that Weather and Ambience Overhaul mod, I merged all those files together into one esp (except for the Climates of Tamriel.esm) and it all worked just fine together. Will definitely save room on your load order. Still scratching my head on making a working SoS merged patch. So far TES5Edit refuse to automatically patch SoS when i follow the steps in the video in TES5Edit's modpage.
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