TheHuntress1970 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 So, I enter the Hall of Dead and hear the woman's voice speak blah blah blah and after I hear 'I will tell you everything you have forgotten' *poof* CTD. Now, this is also on a fresh game with no mods running except for all DLCs, their respective unofficial patches, skyui, and Skyrim Unbound.
Alpia Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Without knowing this quest, well since you said you don't have any mods and on a fresh game: what happens if you start the quest by console? DA11Intro, DA11 is the id use startquest ID to start it or the more detailed way get the stages of the quest with player.sqs ID and then set one stage after another with setstage ID STAGE if it dosent crash you have a problem with the cell it plays in I guess (I dont know the quest) Anyway you may report back if you can start it by console if it works with console I would just life with it instead of investing time to get the failure as said if it don't works you may report back Edit: if it crashes with console start it would be intresting if you would try it out with the stages as described and report which stage makes you crash Edit2: So I looked for the quest here are the Id's so you don't have to search by console 5Objective 5: Speak to Verulus about the Hall of the Dead10Objective 10: Investigate the Hall of the Dead15Objective 15: Tell Verulus the Hall of the dead is safe20 Finishes quest200 Finishes questThe Taste of Death (DA11)10 Eola in Markarth wants me to join her in worshipping Namira, the Lady of Decay, by feasting on the flesh of the dead. She has something planned inside Reachcliff Cave.Objective 10: Clear the Draugr from Reachcliff Cave20Objective 20: Speak to Eola30 Eola wants me to lure Brother Verulus to the Shrine of Namira, so that her coven of cannibals can feast on his flesh.Objective 30: Convince Verulus to follow you40Objective 40: Lead Verulus to the Shrine of Namira50Objective 50: Kill Verulus60 Brother Verulus is dead, and I've been asked to feast on his dead body to complete my initiation into Namira's coven.Objective 60: Feast on Verulus100 Finishes quest I have feasted on the body of Brother Verulus and have been rewarded with Namira's Ring.250 Fails quest I killed Eola. Whatever she could have offered me was lost when she died.500 Fails quest I killed Brother Verulus outside of the shrine of Namira's presence. The cannabilistic ritual to gain Namira's blessing has failed.
mewwwkittytt Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 The unofficial patches have caused me CTD problems in the past, I would not recommend installing all of the unofficial patches, only the ones required by mods that you have. I'd bet that will solve your problem.
Alpia Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 The unofficial patches have caused me CTD problems in the past, I would not recommend installing all of the unofficial patches, only the ones required by mods that you have. I'd bet that will solve your problem. No mod I'm aware of requires the unofficial patches some may recommand it, but I never seen one that actually requires it anyway I havent used an one of the unofficial patches maybe I just don't notice bugs, but I have never encountered a bug in this game that I'm aware of or better that annoyed me enough to need a fix
TheHuntress1970 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 Without knowing this quest, well since you said you don't have any mods and on a fresh game: what happens if you start the quest by console? DA11Intro, DA11 is the id use startquest ID to start it or the more detailed way get the stages of the quest with player.sqs ID and then set one stage after another with setstage ID STAGE if it dosent crash you have a problem with the cell it plays in I guess (I dont know the quest) Anyway you may report back if you can start it by console if it works with console I would just life with it instead of investing time to get the failure as said if it don't works you may report back Edit: if it crashes with console start it would be intresting if you would try it out with the stages as described and report which stage makes you crash Edit2: So I looked for the quest here are the Id's so you don't have to search by console 5 Objective 5: Speak to Verulus about the Hall of the Dead 10 Objective 10: Investigate the Hall of the Dead 15 Objective 15: Tell Verulus the Hall of the dead is safe 20 Finishes quest 200 Finishes quest The Taste of Death (DA11) 10 Eola in Markarth wants me to join her in worshipping Namira, the Lady of Decay, by feasting on the flesh of the dead. She has something planned inside Reachcliff Cave. Objective 10: Clear the Draugr from Reachcliff Cave 20 Objective 20: Speak to Eola 30 Eola wants me to lure Brother Verulus to the Shrine of Namira, so that her coven of cannibals can feast on his flesh. Objective 30: Convince Verulus to follow you 40 Objective 40: Lead Verulus to the Shrine of Namira 50 Objective 50: Kill Verulus 60 Brother Verulus is dead, and I've been asked to feast on his dead body to complete my initiation into Namira's coven. Objective 60: Feast on Verulus 100 Finishes quest I have feasted on the body of Brother Verulus and have been rewarded with Namira's Ring. 250 Fails quest I killed Eola. Whatever she could have offered me was lost when she died. 500 Fails quest I killed Brother Verulus outside of the shrine of Namira's presence. The cannabilistic ritual to gain Namira's blessing has failed. Thanks for the reply ChasmX. Is there a way to teleport to the start? I used the console commands to start the quest but I still had to walk into the hall and still had a CTD. The unofficial patches have caused me CTD problems in the past, I would not recommend installing all of the unofficial patches, only the ones required by mods that you have. I'd bet that will solve your problem. No mod I'm aware of requires the unofficial patches some may recommand it, but I never seen one that actually requires it anyway I havent used an one of the unofficial patches maybe I just don't notice bugs, but I have never encountered a bug in this game that I'm aware of or better that annoyed me enough to need a fix I actually disabled the unofficial patch along with the DLCs and their unofficial patches and still had a CTD.
Alpia Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks for the reply ChasmX. Is there a way to teleport to the start? I used the console commands to start the quest but I still had to walk into the hall and still had a CTD. Well if you crash when you walk into the hall you have a problem with a object inside the hall, but yes you can teleport you can either use COC CELLID player.moveto REFID the refid you can see when you are in the console and click any npc and the cell id you get with either "help location" for example help hallofdead or just google the location for markarth hall of dead its MarkarthHalloftheDead so you type in the console "COC MarkarthHalloftheDead" well, but if you crash inside the hall of dead I recommand to set a stage where you dont have to go into it. We could invest some time to find the buggy object that causes the ctd inside this cell, but I would not waste the time just for a single quest.
TheHuntress1970 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 Okay, but I'm assuming that since I get a CTD after the voice speaks to me that's nothing really with the cell. You mentioned that you're not familiar with this quest. When you get the quest and enter the Hall of the Dead you hear a voice. It's after the voice is over that the CTD happens. What I've read is that at this point a NPC is suppose to run up to you. The interesting part is that I don't crash if I don't have the quest. I can enter the Hall without the quest and it's fine. This is how it starts: Moments after entering, a female voice will echo through the hall, saying, "Not many would walk blindly into a crypt, smelling of steel and blood, but not fear. I feel the hunger inside of you. Gnawing at you. You see the dead and your mouth grows wet. Your stomach growls. It's all right. I will not shun you for what you are. Stay. I will tell you everything you have forgotten." After the speech, Eola will then run up to you and continue in the same vein, trying to seduce you with suggestions and accusations. When she is finished, three options are available. If you choose the third option, the quest will immediately fail, as she will attack you, with no option to yield. You can still complete the favor quest and receive your reward from Verulus, but will never get to experience The Taste of Death. I'm thinking that I have an issue with Eola that is causing the crash? I'm not sure how to resolve this. I've verified my local cash via Steam and it's still crashing...
Alpia Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 it indeed sounds like a problem with her you can verify this by teleporting you to her with player.moveto 0001BB8E should be her refid or you can simply spawn her infront of you player.placeatme 0001990F like I said I would try to skip this specific stage as you said where she sneaks up to you (she is invisible when she approches) So I would set this stages Setstage DA11Intro 5 Objective 5: Speak to Verulus about the Hall of the Dead 10 Objective 10: Investigate the Hall of the Dead 15 Objective 15: Tell Verulus the Hall of the dead is safe 20 200 set one stage after another this is the quest you got from the hall of dead guard dude priest whatever (again set one stage after another even 20 and 200) after that the actual quest should start da11 if not you can use startquest The Taste of Death (DA11) 10 Eola in Markarth wants me to join her Thats the "main" quest you should get and whats this all about the quest in the hall of dead should not bother you if it dosent work nothing intressting Then you can see if you can proceed normally if there is a problem with the npc itself I really can't tell you how you could fix that I just think by using the command you may can bypass the problem
TheHuntress1970 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Posted April 25, 2015 Well, Eola is broken for me here. I did a player.placeatme 1990f and boom straight to the desktop.
Alpia Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 Well, Eola is broken for me here. I did a player.placeatme 1990f and boom straight to the desktop. As I said I sadly don't know how you can fix it when it dosent have to do with a mod until someone else post an idea here I would just finish the quest by console or leave it unfinished until someone comes up with something. Edit: Since If got no realy good idea why not try to install some follower overhaul maybe we are lucky and it overwrites whatever is corrupted. You could try this http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/37861/?or any other mod that replaces her maybe it works since with a mod you use a other body, face and hair data so if something like this is the issue maybe we are lucky
TheHuntress1970 Posted April 25, 2015 Author Posted April 25, 2015 Chasmx, that's an awesome idea. I didn't even think of that. I'll give it a shot and report back. Thanks for the idea! Tried it and still CTD.
Alpia Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 hm then I'm clueless sadly I hope someone else also looks into this is there a reason why the quest is so important for you I would just skip it
TheHuntress1970 Posted April 28, 2015 Author Posted April 28, 2015 Chasmx, Thanks for all your help in this. I ended up reinstalling the game - resolved... lol
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