Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I use mods like Skyrim Beautiful Followers, Warmaidens, BTRH Waifu to "beautify" my followers. It's the best solution in my eyes, because you are able to change the appearance without the need to create a CK .esp with tons of master dependencies from Apachii, SG Hairs, brow mods, Eyes of Beauty etc. In addition those mods use exported Race Menu / ECE facegeoms aka head nifs and self made face tints. Those follower mods come along with their own folder structure where all files are contained, facegeom, facetint, hairstyle, eyes, brows, face textures and even the whole body mesh and texture if you want. Those mods work absolutely flawless for all my followers, be it housecarls, Hearthfire housecarl like Rayya, Uthgert, hireable follower like Jenassa or even special followers like Serana, Mjoll, Annekke....with the exception of one follower...guess which one... I used several follower mods for her, I shifted her .esp to the end of my load order, I disabled and enabled her, I did the setNPCweight command and scaled her to 100 and back to 1 again, nothing works. After installing the mod and activating her .esp she appears in game with a dark head bug without any change to facegeom, hairstyle, eye color, browtype etc. When I load the .esp in CK everything look fine. She is nothing special at all, no marriage script, no former changes, no other special mods that might change just her. Other mods that might affect her - like AFT, Femine Females, MHIYH etc. affect all other followers in the same way. She has the same settings in AFT for example as every other follower too. I never learnt her spells or other stuff. She was as usual the first follower I met in game, but I met Iona and Mjoll for example far before I installed a follower beautification mod for them too. I can change Mjoll's and Iona's appearance as I wish, I can't change anything concerning Lydia by follower mods. Whenever I change my normal female body and face textures (a mix of SG Female and a CBBE conversion of the new Fair Skin Complexion from Nexus) the change works for Lydia too. Besides that, I know that opposite gender anims can be "baked" into your save game irreversibly, if you do not install correction mods like Feminine Females or No More Females Walking Like Machines, before you met the NPC in game and this may apply for scripts too, but I have never heard about that for facegeoms, facetints etc. aka meshes and textures. Me seems as if the game engine can't find the path to the according follower mod Lydia folders (which contain the hairstyle, eyes, the fitting face textures etc.). My issue seems to be not that unique, there are other people who had that issue and especially with Lydia too, but google finds just threads, but no solutions. Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 09 hdtHighHeel.esm 0A HepsyHair.esm 0B JSwords.esm [Version 14.0] 0C Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0D SGHairPackBase.esm 0E TERAArmors.esm 0F Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 11 SexLab.esm [Version 1.57] 12 SexLabAroused.esm 13 SBF Borgakh.esp 14 SBF Ugor.esp 15 Feminine Females.esp 16 PuppetMaster.esp 17 PuppetMasterSwallow.esp 18 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 19 Convenient Horses.esp 1A Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp 1B Brawl Bugs CE.esp 1C RaceMenu.esp 1D RaceMenuPlugin.esp 1E RaceMenuOverlays.esp 1F AK_RM_Pubic_Styles.esp 20 AK_RM_Pubic_Styles_Classic.esp 21 AK_RM_Pubic_Styles_Superhairy.esp 22 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 23 FreckleMania.esp 24 KJ Tattoos 4K.esp 25 Neithteam Warpaint.esp 26 RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 27 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 28 The Coenaculi.esp 29 The Coenaculi_Makeup.esp 2A titkit.esp 2B Brows.esp 2C SGEyebrows.esp 2D KS Hairdo's.esp 2E SGHairPackAIO.esp 2F Eyes of Aber.esp 30 IridumEyes2.0.esp 31 MikanEyes All in one.esp 32 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 33 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 34 Babette.esp 35 SBF Adelaisa.esp 36 SBF Aela.esp 37 SBF Anneke.esp 38 SBF Aranea.esp 39 SBF Beleval.esp 3A SBF Brelyna.esp 3B SBF DB-Inisiate.esp 3C SBF Eola.esp 3D SBF Frea.esp 3E SBF Illia.esp 3F SBF Ingjard.esp 40 SBF Iona.esp 41 SBF Jenassa.esp 42 SBF Jordis.esp 43 SBF Mjoll.esp 44 SBF Njada.esp 45 SBF Rayya.esp 46 SBF Ria.esp 47 SBF Serana v2.2.esp 48 SBF Uthgerd.esp 49 SkyUI.esp 4A AddItemMenu.esp 4B Atlas Legendary.esp 4C Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 4D Book Covers Skyrim.esp 4E dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 4F dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 50 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 51 EnchantedArsenal.esp [Version 2.23] 52 ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp 53 Facelight.esp 54 FISS.esp 55 FNISspells.esp 56 Footprints.esp 57 Footprints - Ash.esp 58 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp [Version 2.06] 59 Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp [Version 2.06] 5A Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp [Version 2.06] 5B Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp [Version 2.06] 5C Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp [Version 2.06] 5D Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp [Version 2.06] 5E Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp [Version 2.06] 5F Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp [Version 2.06] 60 iHUD.esp 61 NoxWCC.esp 62 SkyTweak.esp 63 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 64 SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp 65 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 66 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 67 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 68 LoversVictim.esp 69 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.5.2] 6A SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 5] 6B MoreNastyCritters.esp 6C SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 6D SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 6E SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 6F HentaiCreatures.esp 70 SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 71 SexLab Submit.esp 72 display-model.esp 73 sr_FillHerUp.esp 74 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 75 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 76 AncientDraugr.esp 77 Aradia Kato Outfit.esp 78 Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp 79 CharmingHighHeels.esp 7A CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 7B DarkStandalone.esp 7C DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp 7D Earrings Set1.esp 7E Elemental Staves.esp 7F Female Barbarian.esp 80 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 81 Fudou Myouou.esp 82 GamEngagementrings.esp 83 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 84 Gwelda Armor Pack.esp 85 HDT Piercingsets.esp 86 HDT System Tera BOOTS.esp 87 HorusGuildWars2.esp 88 isilNarsil.esp 89 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp [Version 14.0] 8A JSwords_Load_Screens.esp [Version 14.0] 8B KameleonArmorBS.esp 8C Lady of Death.esp 8D LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp 8E Mavari Armor.esp 8F MidnightBreed.esp 90 Minou Aradia Leather Thief Armor CBBE TBBP.esp 91 NewVampChainsCuirass.esp 92 NewVampChainsGloves.esp 93 Nicos Raven Swords.esp 94 NoldorArmor.esp 95 Northgirl.esp 96 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 97 Osare Panty.esp 98 PND.esp 99 R18pn - lingerie Set.esp 9A Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 9B Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 9C Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 9D Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 9E ScarletDawnArmor.esp 9F sextoys-calyps-2.esp A0 SexyVest.esp A1 ShreddedTrissMash.esp A2 Silverlight Armor.esp A3 Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp A4 Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp A5 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp A6 Strap.esp A7 TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp A8 tbmChrysamere.esp A9 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp AA TERAArmors_CBBE.esp AB theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp AC Ursine Armor Pack.esp AD valkyrja.esp AE VesWhoreOutfit.esp AF Werehide.esp B0 WildHuntress.esp B1 yangyang_SavageArmor.esp B2 YotoHatamonba.esp B3 BellyachesNewDragonSpecies_TougherFactionlessDragons.esp B4 Dragon Cliff Manor.esp B5 Elisdriel.esp B6 MoonstoneCastle.esp B7 SkystoneCastle.esp B8 WinterstoneCastle.esp B9 AshRocks.esp BA Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] BB HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp BC HearthfireChimneys.esp BD MoonGlow.esp BE RAIN.esp BF SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp C0 SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp C1 SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp C2 SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp C3 SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp C4 SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp C5 EpisodeParallax.esp C6 SRTODragonbornParallax.esp C7 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp C8 SFO - Dragonborn.esp C9 Unique Grasses.esp CA RealisticWaterTwo.esp CB RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp CC Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp CD WATER Plants.esp CE SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp CF SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp D0 Skysan_Icicle.esp D1 SoS - The Dungeons.esp [Version 1.23] D2 SoS - Civilization.esp [Version 1.02] D3 SoS - The Wilds.esp [Version 1.13] D4 mintylightningmod.esp D5 randomthunder.esp D6 Supreme Storms.esp D7 RevampedExteriorFog.esp D8 Serenity Volumetric Fog.esp D9 RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp DA ELE-Interior Lighting.esp DB ELE DG-Interior Lighting.esp DC ELE HF-Interior Lighting.esp DD ELE DB-Interior Lighting.esp DE SoS-ELEPatch.esp
dork42 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Have you tried playing an unmodded Skyrim (to test) and running up to Lydia to see if she has the error? Are you using NMM or MO? Tried any savegame cleaners?
Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 I use Wrye Bash and I use the Save Game Script Cleaner mod quite often, but I wonder what I should clean concerning Lydia, there are no orphan scripts in my game that just change her. I will test an unmodded game with just the ordinary masters (maybe the Unofficial Patches and her .esp. I have a clean save somewhere around I might test too.
dork42 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Maybe an old tintmask/mesh from a prev. mod didn't get reconnected properly back to Lydia. Now how to access/find that... above my pay grade, heh Possibly in the other option in the script cleaner Is the Lydia mod left out of your load order on purpose, I'm not seeing it? Have you tried the all-in-one SBF? Or a completely different Lydia mod like Gol's Housecarlshttp://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59943/?
DarkMatter Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I do the same with most NPCs in the game. I install several different Overhauls and pick the ones that suit my tastes. I've learned that it's important to let them overwrite each other in the correct order and with the correct files plus the correct load order. Did you use the FaceGeom files from the mod you want to use and let them overwrite the others and let the .esp load after all other that change Lydia's appearance? You probably did, but it's better to ask. Another thing you could try is delete all references to Lydia in the other .esp's that might change her appearance but that are not the one you want to use. One last thing you could try might be exporting the FaceGeoms from the .esp you want to use per Creation Kit and after that manually place the ones from the mod into the specific folder.
Pops57 Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 Lydia's SBF .esp is missing. I use SBF myself. Also, if you're not trying to get rid of Uthgerd's scars, you might wanna consider using the single .esp version of SBF - it'll save you some mod space.
Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Posted November 16, 2014 Yep, Lydia's esp is missing because the mod is uninstalled....and of course I activated the .esp as I installed it formerly. At moment I have around 225 esps and I have issues to find new must have mods. As long as I am not close to the 255 limit I use the single esp options from the follower mods, it's easier to change single NPCs or replace them by other mods (Warmaidens for example). I use Wrye Bash for installing, because you see really well all overrides and of course I took care that no old facetint or facegeom (named by Lydia's ID) was left in the meshes and textures folder. ...but I will give that fagendata extraction thing a chance, sounds like an idea.
Alpia Posted November 17, 2014 Posted November 17, 2014 such bugs only occure if you have installed two or more mods that change her apperance in diffrent ways so simple said you have two follower mods that have modded lydias apperance you have the body from one and the face from the other. Solution has allready been given due Did you use the FaceGeom files from the mod you want to use and let them overwrite the others and let the .esp load after all other that change Lydia's appearance? You probably did, but it's better to ask. Another thing you could try is delete all references to Lydia in the other .esp's that might change her appearance but that are not the one you want to use. One last thing you could try might be exporting the FaceGeoms from the .esp you want to use per Creation Kit and after that manually place the ones from the mod into the specific folder.
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