Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I use mods like Skyrim Beautiful Followers, Warmaidens, BTRH Waifu to "beautify" my followers. It's the best solution in my eyes, because you are able to change the appearance without the need to create a CK .esp with tons of master dependencies from Apachii, SG Hairs, brow mods, Eyes of Beauty etc. In addition those mods use exported Race Menu / ECE facegeoms aka head nifs and self made face tints. Those follower mods come along with their own folder structure where all files are contained, facegeom, facetint, hairstyle, eyes, brows, face textures and even the whole body mesh and texture if you want.  Those mods work absolutely flawless for all my followers, be it housecarls, Hearthfire housecarl like Rayya, Uthgert, hireable follower like Jenassa or even special followers like Serana, Mjoll, Annekke....with the exception of one follower...guess which one...  I used several follower mods for her, I shifted her .esp to the end of my load order, I disabled and enabled her, I did the setNPCweight command and scaled her to 100 and back to 1 again, nothing works. After installing the mod and activating her .esp she appears in game with a dark head bug without any change to facegeom, hairstyle, eye color, browtype etc. When I load the .esp in CK everything look fine.  She is nothing special at all, no marriage script, no former changes, no other special mods that might change just her. Other mods that might affect her - like AFT, Femine Females, MHIYH etc. affect all other followers in the same way. She has the same settings in AFT for example as every other follower too. I never learnt her spells or other stuff. She was as usual the first follower I met in game, but I met Iona and Mjoll for example far before I installed a follower beautification mod for them too. I can change Mjoll's and Iona's appearance as I wish, I can't change anything concerning Lydia by follower mods. Whenever I change my normal female body and face textures (a mix of SG Female and a CBBE conversion of the new Fair Skin Complexion from Nexus) the change works for Lydia too.  Besides that, I know that opposite gender anims can be "baked" into your save game irreversibly, if you do not install correction mods like Feminine Females or No More Females Walking Like Machines, before you met the NPC in game and this may apply for scripts too, but I have never heard about that for facegeoms, facetints etc. aka meshes and textures.  Me seems as if the game engine can't find the path to the according follower mod Lydia folders (which contain the hairstyle, eyes, the fitting face textures etc.).  My issue seems to be not that unique, there are other people who had that issue and especially with Lydia too, but google finds just threads, but no solutions.  Active Mod Files:  00  Skyrim.esm 01  Update.esm 02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7] 03  Dawnguard.esm 04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7] 05  HearthFires.esm 06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7] 07  Dragonborn.esm 08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.7] 09  hdtHighHeel.esm 0A  HepsyHair.esm 0B  JSwords.esm  [Version 14.0] 0C  Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 0D  SGHairPackBase.esm 0E  TERAArmors.esm 0F  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 10  ZaZAnimationPack.esm 11  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.57] 12  SexLabAroused.esm 13  SBF Borgakh.esp 14  SBF Ugor.esp 15  Feminine Females.esp 16  PuppetMaster.esp 17  PuppetMasterSwallow.esp 18  AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 19  Convenient Horses.esp 1A  Default Teammate Weapon Draw Distance.esp 1B  Brawl Bugs CE.esp 1C  RaceMenu.esp 1D  RaceMenuPlugin.esp 1E  RaceMenuOverlays.esp 1F  AK_RM_Pubic_Styles.esp 20  AK_RM_Pubic_Styles_Classic.esp 21  AK_RM_Pubic_Styles_Superhairy.esp 22  BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp 23  FreckleMania.esp 24  KJ Tattoos 4K.esp 25  Neithteam Warpaint.esp 26  RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp 27  RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 28  The Coenaculi.esp 29  The Coenaculi_Makeup.esp 2A  titkit.esp 2B  Brows.esp 2C  SGEyebrows.esp 2D  KS Hairdo's.esp 2E  SGHairPackAIO.esp 2F  Eyes of Aber.esp 30  IridumEyes2.0.esp 31  MikanEyes All in one.esp 32  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 9] 33  The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp 34  Babette.esp 35  SBF Adelaisa.esp 36  SBF Aela.esp 37  SBF Anneke.esp 38  SBF Aranea.esp 39  SBF Beleval.esp 3A  SBF Brelyna.esp 3B  SBF DB-Inisiate.esp 3C  SBF Eola.esp 3D  SBF Frea.esp 3E  SBF Illia.esp 3F  SBF Ingjard.esp 40  SBF Iona.esp 41  SBF Jenassa.esp 42  SBF Jordis.esp 43  SBF Mjoll.esp 44  SBF Njada.esp 45  SBF Rayya.esp 46  SBF Ria.esp 47  SBF Serana v2.2.esp 48  SBF Uthgerd.esp 49  SkyUI.esp 4A  AddItemMenu.esp 4B  Atlas Legendary.esp 4C  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 4D  Book Covers Skyrim.esp 4E  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 4F  dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 50  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 51  EnchantedArsenal.esp  [Version 2.23] 52  ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp 53  Facelight.esp 54  FISS.esp 55  FNISspells.esp 56  Footprints.esp 57  Footprints - Ash.esp 58  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ammo.esp  [Version 2.06] 59  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp  [Version 2.06] 5A  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Food (Normal Weight).esp  [Version 2.06] 5B  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Ingredients.esp  [Version 2.06] 5C  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Miscellaneous.esp  [Version 2.06] 5D  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp  [Version 2.06] 5E  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Soul Gems (PseudoVanilla).esp  [Version 2.06] 5F  Headbomb's Better Sorting - Spells.esp  [Version 2.06] 60  iHUD.esp 61  NoxWCC.esp 62  SkyTweak.esp 63  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 64  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp 65  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 66  SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 67  SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 68  LoversVictim.esp 69  SexLab Cumshot.esp  [Version 1.5.2] 6A  SexLabMatchMaker.esp  [Version 5] 6B  MoreNastyCritters.esp 6C  SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 6D  SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 6E  SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 6F  HentaiCreatures.esp 70  SexLabStatsManipulator.esp 71  SexLab Submit.esp 72  display-model.esp 73  sr_FillHerUp.esp 74  xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 75  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 76  AncientDraugr.esp 77  Aradia Kato Outfit.esp 78  Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp 79  CharmingHighHeels.esp 7A  CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 7B  DarkStandalone.esp 7C  DovahBlingJewelryStandalone.esp 7D  Earrings Set1.esp 7E  Elemental Staves.esp 7F  Female Barbarian.esp 80  FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 81  Fudou Myouou.esp 82  GamEngagementrings.esp 83  GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp 84  Gwelda Armor Pack.esp 85  HDT Piercingsets.esp 86  HDT System Tera BOOTS.esp 87  HorusGuildWars2.esp 88  isilNarsil.esp 89  JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp  [Version 14.0] 8A  JSwords_Load_Screens.esp  [Version 14.0] 8B  KameleonArmorBS.esp 8C  Lady of Death.esp 8D  LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp 8E  Mavari Armor.esp 8F  MidnightBreed.esp 90  Minou Aradia Leather Thief Armor CBBE TBBP.esp 91  NewVampChainsCuirass.esp 92  NewVampChainsGloves.esp 93  Nicos Raven Swords.esp 94  NoldorArmor.esp 95  Northgirl.esp 96  NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 97  Osare Panty.esp 98  PND.esp 99  R18pn - lingerie Set.esp 9A  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 9B  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 9C  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 9D  Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 9E  ScarletDawnArmor.esp 9F  sextoys-calyps-2.esp A0  SexyVest.esp A1  ShreddedTrissMash.esp A2  Silverlight Armor.esp A3  Sotteta Huntress Armor.esp A4  Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp A5  Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp A6  Strap.esp A7  TBBP_Ribbon_Armor.esp A8  tbmChrysamere.esp A9  Tembtra Thief Armor.esp AA  TERAArmors_CBBE.esp AB  theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp AC  Ursine Armor Pack.esp AD  valkyrja.esp AE  VesWhoreOutfit.esp AF  Werehide.esp B0  WildHuntress.esp B1  yangyang_SavageArmor.esp B2  YotoHatamonba.esp B3  BellyachesNewDragonSpecies_TougherFactionlessDragons.esp B4  Dragon Cliff Manor.esp B5  Elisdriel.esp B6  MoonstoneCastle.esp B7  SkystoneCastle.esp B8  WinterstoneCastle.esp B9  AshRocks.esp BA  Better Dynamic Snow.esp  [Version 2.4] BB  HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp BC  HearthfireChimneys.esp BD  MoonGlow.esp BE  RAIN.esp BF  SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp C0  SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp C1  SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp C2  SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp C3  SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp C4  SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp C5  EpisodeParallax.esp C6  SRTODragonbornParallax.esp C7  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp C8  SFO - Dragonborn.esp C9  Unique Grasses.esp CA  RealisticWaterTwo.esp CB  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp CC  Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp CD  WATER Plants.esp CE  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp CF  SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp D0  Skysan_Icicle.esp D1  SoS - The Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.23] D2  SoS - Civilization.esp  [Version 1.02] D3  SoS - The Wilds.esp  [Version 1.13] D4  mintylightningmod.esp D5  randomthunder.esp D6  Supreme Storms.esp D7  RevampedExteriorFog.esp D8  Serenity Volumetric Fog.esp D9  RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp DA  ELE-Interior Lighting.esp DB  ELE DG-Interior Lighting.esp DC  ELE HF-Interior Lighting.esp DD  ELE DB-Interior Lighting.esp DE  SoS-ELEPatch.esp    Link to comment
dork42 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Have you tried playing an unmodded Skyrim (to test) and running up to Lydia to see if she has the error? Are you using NMM or MO? Tried any savegame cleaners? Link to comment
Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 I use Wrye Bash and I use the Save Game Script Cleaner mod quite often, but I wonder what I should clean concerning Lydia, there are no orphan scripts in my game that just change her. Â I will test an unmodded game with just the ordinary masters (maybe the Unofficial Patches and her .esp. I have a clean save somewhere around I might test too. Link to comment
dork42 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Maybe an old tintmask/mesh from a prev. mod didn't get reconnected properly back to Lydia. Now how to access/find that... above my pay grade, heh  Possibly in the other option in the script cleaner  Is the Lydia mod left out of your load order on purpose, I'm not seeing it? Have you tried the all-in-one SBF? Or a completely different Lydia mod like Gol's Housecarlshttp://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59943/? Link to comment
DarkMatter Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I do the same with most NPCs in the game. I install several different Overhauls and pick the ones that suit my tastes. I've learned that it's important to let them overwrite each other in the correct order and with the correct files plus the correct load order. Did you use the FaceGeom files from the mod you want to use and let them overwrite the others and let the .esp load after all other that change Lydia's appearance? You probably did, but it's better to ask. Another thing you could try is delete all references to Lydia in the other .esp's that might change her appearance but that are not the one you want to use. One last thing you could try might be exporting the FaceGeoms from the .esp you want to use per Creation Kit and after that manually place the ones from the mod into the specific folder. Link to comment
Pops57 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Lydia's SBF .esp is missing. I use SBF myself. Also, if you're not trying to get rid of Uthgerd's scars, you might wanna consider using the single .esp version of SBF - it'll save you some mod space. Link to comment
Sunja44 Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Yep, Lydia's esp is missing because the mod is uninstalled....and of course I activated the .esp as I installed it formerly. Â At moment I have around 225 esps and I have issues to find new must have mods. As long as I am not close to the 255 limit I use the single esp options from the follower mods, it's easier to change single NPCs or replace them by other mods (Warmaidens for example). Â I use Wrye Bash for installing, because you see really well all overrides and of course I took care that no old facetint or facegeom (named by Lydia's ID) was left in the meshes and textures folder. Â ...but I will give that fagendata extraction thing a chance, sounds like an idea. Link to comment
Deoxyribonucleic_acid Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 such bugs only occure if you have installed two or more mods that change her apperance in diffrent ways so simple said you have two follower mods that have modded lydias apperance you have the body from one and the face from the other.  Solution has allready been given due  Did you use the FaceGeom files from the mod you want to use and let them overwrite the others and let the .esp load after all other that change Lydia's appearance? You probably did, but it's better to ask. Another thing you could try is delete all references to Lydia in the other .esp's that might change her appearance but that are not the one you want to use. One last thing you could try might be exporting the FaceGeoms from the .esp you want to use per Creation Kit and after that manually place the ones from the mod into the specific folder.  Link to comment
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