thelordofroses Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Firstly this happened after i uninstalled,deleted,then reinstalled skyrim and all my mods ( had an issue with animations and old mod files etc so i cleaned it all out including saves) FNIS was ran after every install of these mods below So i reinstalled all my mod files and used the CBHSCH body ( this is where i think my troubles started)(NMM installed) installed Xpms skeleton then XPMS skeleton extended (for female with bbp)(NMM installed both) loaded game to test, animations all fine, gameplay fine, textures fine, belly node NOT FINE so i then found out that body didnt have the node so i overlayed bellisrios unpb preg body from chaurus tested no luck (manuel) installed fill her up and set soul gem preg cum inflation to 20 ( ridiclous value for testing) overlayed PSB and followed its instructions via bodyslide tested no luck(manuel) batch built outfits tried adjusting bigbelly node on other body slides no luck (retrospect had no clue what i was doing just follwoing PSB instructions and applyign them to other bodies) x3 batch built outfits x3 Tried adding bellisors node to the body via outfit studio . outfit studio crashes everytime i copy weights found a CBHSCH+ belly file here overlayed tested no luck (manuel) not quite sure of the usefulness but included load order and the only papyrus log i could get ( yes i did ini settings and such) So can anyone tell me how to either fix what went wrong with the body cause from all this overlay im sure i made a big mistake somewhere and thats its obvious but i can't see it. any and all help is appreciated. only thing that won't be appreciated is if you tell me to re-install skyrim again... but ill do what i must. Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 HearthFires.esm 05 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 06 Dragonborn.esm 07 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.7] 08 paradise_halls.esm 09 hdtHighHeel.esm 0A RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 0B daymoyl.esm 0C DibellanDefender.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 0E SexLabSoulgemPregnancy.esm 0F SexLabAroused.esm 10 actorEvents.esm 11 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm ----> Delinquent MASTER: Devious Devices - Assets.esm 13 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] 14 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 15 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 16 HighResTexturePack01.esp 17 HighResTexturePack02.esp 18 HighResTexturePack03.esp 19 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.9] 1A ImmersiveFP.esp 1B AK- Placeable Statics.esp 1C SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp 1D AK- Placeable Statics - Hearthfire.esp 1E cbmodTheGrotto.esp 1F SlaveTats.esp 20 Bestiality_NudeBears.esp 21 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 22 DibellanDefender.esp 23 Immersive Arousal.esp 24 OBIS.esp 25 display-model.esp 26 Brawl Bugs CE.esp 27 WATER DB.esp 28 NusbieVoices.esp 29 OBISDB.esp 2A UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp 2B JaxonzRenamer.esp 2C SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 2D RaceMenu.esp 2E comvex-hmpriestess.esp 2F Aradia Living Armor JE.esp 30 Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp 31 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 32 MoreNastyCritters.esp 33 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 34 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 35 Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp 36 Remodeled Armor.esp 37 zzEstrus.esp 38 EstrusChaurus.esp 39 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 3A SkyUI.esp 3B SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 3C sr_ifpssl.esp 3D Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp 3E SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 3F SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 40 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 41 townsandcitiesenhanced.esp 42 HentaiCreatures.esp 43 Cloaks.esp 44 Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 45 paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp 46 TradeRoutes.esp [Version 1.1] 47 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 48 SexLab-Stories.esp 49 DeviousRegulations.esp 4A UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp 4B xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 4C Tame Beast.esp 4D Devious Deviants.esp 4E dragonsoulstoperks.esp 4F RayeksEnd.esp 50 whiteruninenhanced.esp 51 MilkModNEW.esp 52 camp_map_markers.esp 53 tavewindhelm.esp 54 SexLab Beastess.esp 55 tavesolitude.esp 56 GrandBathHouseArena.esp 57 BesEss.esp 58 riverwoodenhancedplugin.esp 59 whiterunexenhanced.esp 5A taveriften.esp 5B paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp 5C SexLab STDs.esp 5D Succubui Enemies +.esp 5E SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp 5F Succubus Enemies 2.0.esp 60 SuccubusRaceLite.esp 61 SexLabDefeat.esp 62 The Dungeon.esp 63 afeSLChaurusExpansion.esp 64 SexLabAnimalSex.esp 65 SexLab_Hormones.esp 66 Beastess Vampire.esp 67 My Home Is Your Home.esp 68 moredragonloot.esp 69 SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp 6A SexLabAnimalSexTame.esp 6B Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.3] 6C Devious Devices - For the Masses II.esp 6D DD FtM - Cloaks patch.esp 6E DD - FtM - OBIS patch.esp 6F Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 70 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 71 SOS - Shop.esp 72 WATER.esp 73 WATER Plants.esp 74 WATER DB Waves.esp 75 WATER DG.esp 76 sr_FillHerUp.esp 77 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 78 ProperWeaponScale.esp
fizzybutt Posted October 21, 2014 Posted October 21, 2014 Looks like Fill her up is working, are you naked while trying any of this? are you using MO to keep the stuff you're testing out straight? Saw NMM way up at the top, It looks like you're either overwriting body/skeleton or both, *though skele overwrite should cause a crash when using that mod. So, you probably havn't got the actual body overwritten properly if you're truly naked while checking inflation. Here's mine for you to test. They're unpb variants and yes they work. Might not be perfect, but on my old system it does the job :3 femalebody_0.nif femalebody_1.nif
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Looks like Fill her up is working, are you naked while trying any of this? are you using MO to keep the stuff you're testing out straight? Saw NMM way up at the top, It looks like you're either overwriting body/skeleton or both, *though skele overwrite should cause a crash when using that mod. So, you probably havn't got the actual body overwritten properly if you're truly naked while checking inflation. Here's mine for you to test. They're unpb variants and yes they work. Might not be perfect, but on my old system it does the job :3 Tested and i noticed something. i took both those files and place them in the following folders (all Mesh-->actors-->character) character assets(this i know) character assets female, and characters female. now when i loaded my character in game via skse ( tested both a save and a vanilla/dlc game save and a new vanilla/dlc game save) the body did not appear to have changed to my eyes ( took some shots just in case i'm blind) for good measure i also reinstalled the skeleton after those files. this time i changed the test parameters a little on my modded save, i put on clothes then took them off then tested the belly node just in case the fact my character was naked the whole time had anything to do with the issue. result was i noticed that hormones had the shape override on which made the boobs change sizes. so shut that off tested and end result is again another failure. heres the new log file as well also i don't use MO i tried it and i tried installing fomods with it and they did not install even though MO said they did so i went back to nmm and installed them from there. though i guess maybe ( though highly doubtful) MO is running a phantom operation which re-installs the body meshes as i'm playing the game but as soon as i quit there back to normal. Edit: also ty for the help fizzybutt even though it didnt work out i appreciate the help as every little bit moves me closer to a solution like finding out shape override was on in hormones( even though it did nothing to the belly node sadly). normally now id just play a vanilla character but due to the nature of these mods( scripts oh so many scripts) ill just live with the lacking belly node for now still would like it fixed but i guess its tolerable. Edit#2: browsing on the nexus i read that xp32 skeleton extended is hdt only and not compatible with t/bbp could my issue result from an overlay of HDT then t/bbp then HDT again ( thought hdt was needed for BBP) ( though hdt was why belly node wasnt working so installed it again after testing) resulting in a conflict of files?
fizzybutt Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 First clue that something is wonky is the bodies you are using and the set I gave you should have produced a major difference in look. It also should have produced a slight neck gap and possibly wrist/ankle gap for you because I use different head meshes. So something is still overwriting somewhere, somehow. Without knowing exactly what you installed on top of what since NMM puts mods directly into your data folder and therefore contaminating it; it's going to be really hard to tell for anyone, let alone yourself. Learning how MO works would help you out enormously so you can see exactly what's being overridden; it's helped me out on many occasions. I had a thought: This may be silly after all the work you did, but did you check to make sure your .xml's actually have the belly physics in them? It's happened to me on a reinstall a time or two with installing older xml's by accident :3
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 First clue that something is wonky is the bodies you are using and the set I gave you should have produced a major difference in look. It also should have produced a slight neck gap and possibly wrist/ankle gap for you because I use different head meshes. So something is still overwriting somewhere, somehow. Without knowing exactly what you installed on top of what since NMM puts mods directly into your data folder and therefore contaminating it; it's going to be really hard to tell for anyone, let alone yourself. Learning how MO works would help you out enormously so you can see exactly what's being overridden; it's helped me out on many occasions. I had a thought: This may be silly after all the work you did, but did you check to make sure your .xml's actually have the belly physics in them? It's happened to me on a reinstall a time or two with installing older xml's by accident :3 how would i check those files? i click them and it just pops up an error. though reading http://www.loverslab.com/topic/27122-hdt-collisions-hair-physics-now-with-belly-support-updated-just-another-hdt-xml-file/page-47 a post mentions changing "NPC PreBelly to HDT Belly in the xml" could i get an explanation on how that works so i could test it after checking xlm files of course. attached 2 main bodyslide xmls that i use not including default female form FNIS folder though Edit: figured out how to check the files (well okay just the PSB file) im assuming it has the node as it shows the lines belly,bigbelly, and pregnancy belly. also managed to follow the "Dragonwhore" guide without bodyslide crashing using the recommended body and still no body change at all and i disabled the body mods prior to doing the guide(and re-reinstalled skeletons) CalienteBody.xml PSB.xml
fizzybutt Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 Some reason I can't open your xml's ... and now I see why. Those are bodyslide xml's those aren't for HDTPE. Those don't do anything in the game. Are you running the HDT? You'd be using a havok object most likely with the link you sent me. I don't use it. My boyfriend does however and can confirm it works. The instructions indicate the hdtPhysicsExtensionsdefaultBBP.xml in your SKSE/plugins folder. You'll open it with the JFF tool (found here on LL as well) and change the name of it. It's a really simple program to use and much easier than trying to view the mass of code in notepad or office.
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Some reason I can't open your xml's ... and now I see why. Those are bodyslide xml's those aren't for HDTPE. Those don't do anything in the game. Are you running the HDT? You'd be using a havok object most likely with the link you sent me. I don't use it. My boyfriend does however and can confirm it works. The instructions indicate the hdtPhysicsExtensionsdefaultBBP.xml in your SKSE/plugins folder. You'll open it with the JFF tool (found here on LL as well) and change the name of it. It's a really simple program to use and much easier than trying to view the mass of code in notepad or office. okay i got the program and used it the changing name thing im confused on. heres that file from the plugin folder hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 Okay the issue may have been an entirely different issue masquerading as this issue. Tested as normal after playing around Read a post http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26835-hdt-breast-collision-for-realy-all-armors-with-3-adjustments-without-hdt-havok-object/page-12?do=findComment&comment=739407 thought to myself custom race? tested as normal change race from succubus(Nexus) to High Elf (vanilla skyrim) noticed a Massive body change ( theres a gap between legs and body/butt when viewed from the front but i can live with that i lived with it when i played prior to reinstall) tested noticed a flicker for a brief moment tested again flicker stayed and it appears the belly node is working for all races but the custom one. Edit: once again fizzybutt (i cannot stress this any ah screw it) Thank you So much for your help it would have taken me about 2 weeks to figure this out on my own. sure succubus race is an issue but i can live with it( only reason i used it (aside the awesome wings and such) is for the beastess sneak animations which for some odd reason on my old install only worked with custom races). so if you have other things to do go do them ill be okay and once again thank you
fizzybutt Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 x3 Guess I should have asked that, but every indication was that you were using regular races haha Well that means you need to add the body (and probably your skeleton) to the custom race. Find the location of the race in your folder and copy over the skeleton and body files to it. Custom races use a seperate file path from vanilla. That's why they're custom
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 got the succubus 50% working ( need to play around with MCM menus for mods) i say 50% as im getting a flicker issue which i know from boobs is caused by 1-215 mods fighting over a particular node. and yet again for the third time Thank you! so much! (would caps but caps is rude to peoples eyes as it makes them bleed) Edit: and now succubus is 100% now to de-install or at least completely disable Fill her up ( was using it as a testing source love the mod but love SGPreg better )
fizzybutt Posted October 22, 2014 Posted October 22, 2014 lol, well at least we got the main issue figured out :3
thelordofroses Posted October 22, 2014 Author Posted October 22, 2014 lol, well at least we got the main issue figured out :3 yup and now i have this thread if the issue crops up again and other people can view it too if they actually read the pins and look first ( in retrospect i may have skimmed over a custom race section if that was in there kinda went overboard trying to fix my old installs issue on my own and ultimately decided it would be best to clean up house . Skyrim 2 cleans( counting original install) oblivion 12 cleans (counting original install)honestly not a bad score) but enough talk problems fixed so now i am off to shoot people in the head with arrows and begin building my Soulgem factory! ( unless another issue crops up)
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