Arbiter3X Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Hello everyone, After a long hiatus, I decided to get back into Skyrim. I started initially with about 10 mods, no issue(dot) Then I bumped that number up to 180+ and began to get issues. I've tried to solve the issue(s) on my own by installing the appropriate patches (Excluding the unofficial Dawnguard, Hearthfire, and Dragonborn patches, as they gave the the "Parameter not valid" errors from NMM, and did not install/I installed them manually, NMM would no longer open), running BOSS (Yes, I know it is outdated, and the same goes for NMM, I am now beginning to run LOOT, however(dot) And as for NMM, yes, I probably should have went for MO and I definitely will if I absolutely must do so), removing UDRs and Dirty Edits via TESVEdit, etc. to no avail. Also, can anybody explain how to run LOOT via MO? Thanks. On to the issues themselves though; As for the CTDs, they're unpredictable, sometimes I'll get a minute of gameplay, and no more than a half of an hour. On some occasions, but rarely, will I get the "Skyrim has stopped working" notification on the desktop, it's usually just the common CTD. If I get a CTD in a specific cell such as a shop in Solitude, I'd reload the save and attempt to recreate the events which lead up to the CTD, yet there is no CTD(dot) As for the Loading Screens, I'm sure they're just related to the texture mods and flora I've installed, but if anybody can state otherwise or just confirm that it is graphic related, then it'd be appreciated. I wish I could describe my issue more in depth, but there isn't much I can do to describe those CTDs. All hardware/software information will be listed below: As for graphical/texture mods, I use Skyrim HD 2K, Amidianborn Book of Silence, Amidianborn Caves and Dungeons, Quality HD 4K Snow, Hybrids HDPlant Re-texture, Enhanced Night Skyrim, Book Covers HD, Detailed Rugs, Ultimate HD Fire Effects, and that's pretty much it as far as texture replacement goes. Load order: • 00 Skyrim(dot)esm • 01 Update(dot)esm • 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch(dot)esp [Version 2(dot)0(dot)6] • 03 Dawnguard(dot)esm • 04 HearthFires(dot)esm • 05 Dragonborn(dot)esm • 06 ApachiiHair(dot)esm • 07 RaceCompatibility(dot)esm [Version 1(dot)60a] • 08 actorEvents(dot)esm • 09 AP Skyrim(dot)esm • 0A BBLuxurySuite(dot)esm • 0B ClimatesOfTamriel(dot)esm • 0C ETaC - RESOURCES(dot)esm • 0D SexLab(dot)esm [Version 1(dot)59b] • 0E SexLabAroused(dot)esm • 0F SummerWear(dot)esm • 10 ZaZAnimationPack(dot)esm • 11 SMPC(dot)esp • 12 BeeingFemale(dot)esm [Version 1(dot)0(dot)51] • 13 PrivateNeedsNew(dot)esp • 14 SharedSeranaDialogue(dot)esm • 15 RSkyrimChildren(dot)esm • 16 HighResTexturePack01(dot)esp • 17 HighResTexturePack02(dot)esp • 18 HighResTexturePack03(dot)esp • 19 brawlbug-plugin(dot)esp • 1A Chesko_Frostfall(dot)esp • 1B Morning Fogs(dot)esp • 1C SplashofRain(dot)esp • 1D Improved Combat Sounds v2(dot)2(dot)esp • 1E TradeBarter(dot)esp • 1F AK- Placeable Statics(dot)esp • 20 Birdsofskyrim(dot)esp • 21 Loadout(dot)esp • 22 UnlimitedBookshelves(dot)esp • 23 LoversComfort(dot)esp • 24 Real Clouds(dot)esp • 25 Realistic Wildlife Loot - Realistic(dot)esp • 26 SexLabDefeat(dot)esp • 27 ShootingStars(dot)esp • 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures(dot)esp [Version v6(dot)5(dot)2a] • 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2(dot)esp [Version v6(dot)5(dot)2a] • 2A Skyrim Flora Overhaul(dot)esp • 2B WetandCold(dot)esp • 2C WetandCold - Ashes(dot)esp • 2D SkyUI(dot)esp • 2E AMB Glass Variants Lore(dot)esp • 2F BlairsAfterGlowFashion(dot)esp • 30 BosmerArmorMATY743(dot)esp • 31 1nivWICCloaks(dot)esp [Version 2(dot)3] • 32 Davjes_SorceressArmor(dot)esp • 33 DHuntress(dot)esp • 34 FionaOutfit(dot)esp • 35 HBetterBows(dot)esp • 36 LightBladesArmor(dot)esp • 37 MageBackpack_byTumbajamba(dot)esp • 38 Neo's Selene(dot)esp • 39 NewVampChainsCuirass(dot)esp • 3A Immersive Weapons(dot)esp • 3B NN_ArwenWBDresses(dot)esp • 3C Remodeled Armor(dot)esp • 3D The Unclaimed Delivery(dot)esp • 3E Dr_Bandolier(dot)esp • 3F DeadlyDragons(dot)esp • 40 AliciaPainSlut(dot)esp • 41 ArmorDisguises(dot)esp • 42 BBLuxurySuiteExt(dot)esp • 43 BBLSHousecarlsmovein(dot)esp • 44 BBLSspouse(dot)esp • 45 BBLSVisitors(dot)esp • 46 BBLSmusic(dot)esp • 47 BBLuxurySuiteClassier(dot)esp • 48 SummerWearSA(dot)esp • 49 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable(dot)esp • 4A DA_Skyship(dot)esp • 4B Hearthfire Cheat Chests(dot)esp • 4C Immersive Orc Strongholds(dot)esp • 4D Immersive Solstheim(dot)esp • 4E Immersive Whiterun(dot)esp • 4F Lakeview_Extended(dot)esp • 50 OBIS(dot)esp • 51 OBISDB(dot)esp • 52 Sutvaka2(dot)esp • 53 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie(dot)esp • 54 Tame Beast(dot)esp • 55 Undeath(dot)esp • 56 Book Covers Skyrim(dot)esp • 57 Differently Ebony(dot)esp • 58 Guard Dialogue Overhaul(dot)esp • 59 Killable Children(dot)esp • 5A Killable Children - Quest Important Protected(dot)esp • 5B Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria(dot)esp • 5C Serana No Hood(dot)esp • 5D SexLab Submit(dot)esp • 5E SFO - Dragonborn(dot)esp • 5F Convenient Horses(dot)esp • 60 xazPrisonOverhaul(dot)esp • 61 zzEstrus(dot)esp • 62 EstrusChaurus(dot)esp • 63 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons(dot)esp • 64 ETaC - Complete(dot)esp • 65 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South(dot)esp • 66 Helgen Reborn(dot)esp [Version 105(dot)3] • 67 CampingKitNorthernRanger(dot)esp • 68 RealisticRoomRental(dot)esp • 69 SoS - The Dungeons(dot)esp [Version 1(dot)23] • 6A SoS - The Wilds(dot)esp [Version 1(dot)13] • 6B SoS - Civilization(dot)esp [Version 1(dot)02] • 6C ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound(dot)esp • 6D skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds(dot)esp • 6E Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons(dot)esp • 6F Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors(dot)esp • 70 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors(dot)esp • 71 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors(dot)esp • 72 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors(dot)esp • 73 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch(dot)esp • 74 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch(dot)esp • 75 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous(dot)esp • 76 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm(dot)esp • 77 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-7(dot)esp • 78 Supreme Storms - Cot Version(dot)esp • 79 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons(dot)esp • 7A SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors(dot)esp • 7B SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT(dot)esp • 7C SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds(dot)esp • 7D SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors(dot)esp • 7E SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities(dot)esp • 7F RealisticNeedsandDiseases(dot)esp • 80 RND_Dawnguard-Patch(dot)esp • 81 RND_HearthFires-Patch(dot)esp • 82 RND_Dragonborn-Patch(dot)esp • 83 Shout-tastic_no CD(dot)esp • 84 FNISspells(dot)esp • 85 SexAddict(dot)esp • 86 Locational Damage(dot)esp • 87 Skill Config(dot)esp • 88 TheEyesOfBeauty(dot)esp [Version 9] • 89 SuccubusRaceLite(dot)esp • 8A UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul(dot)esp • 8B My Home Is Your Home(dot)esp • 8C Husky Followers(dot)esp • 8D Marriable Serana(dot)esp [Version 1(dot)6(dot)2] • 8E Marriable Serana HF(dot)esp [Version 1(dot)6(dot)2] • 8F Alternate Start - Live Another Life(dot)esp [Version 2(dot)5(dot)2] • 90 Height Adjusted Races with True Giants(dot)esp • 91 CharacterMakingExtender(dot)esp • 92 DeadlyMutilation(dot)esp • 93 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic(dot)esp • 94 EnhancedCharacterEdit(dot)esp • 95 getSnowy(dot)esp • 96 RealShelter(dot)esp • 97 WATER(dot)esp • 98 WATER Plants(dot)esp • 99 WATER DG(dot)esp • 9A WATER DB Waves(dot)esp • 9B Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla(dot)esp • 9C Blacksmithforge water fix DG(dot)esp • 9D Blacksmithforge water fix HF(dot)esp • 9E Blacksmithforge water fix DB(dot)esp • 9F Cartographers Map Markers(dot)esp • A0 DudestiaMultiMarriages(dot)esp • A1 TrueBrows(dot)esp • A2 GypsyEyesCaravan(dot)V(dot)2(dot)esp • A3 CanalHome(dot)esp • A4 NoldorArmor(dot)esp • A5 DarkStandalone(dot)esp • A6 SexLab Submit Serana(dot)esp • A7 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn(dot)esp • A8 Apropos(dot)esp • A9 GuildStarter(dot)esp • AA Immersive Patrols II(dot)esp • AB Fantasy Soundtrack Project(dot)esp [Version 3(dot)0] • AC FSP - Dawnguard Edition(dot)esp • AD FSP - Dragonborn Edition(dot)esp • AE RealShelterPatch(dot)esp • AF SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB(dot)esp • B0 SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls(dot)esp • B1 SMIM-Merged-All(dot)esp FNIS Log FNIS Behavior V5(dot)1(dot)1 10/11/2014 10:31:43 PM Skyrim: 1(dot)9(dot)32(dot)0 - D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim (Steam) Skeleton female: XPMS (242 bones) male: XPMS (242 bones) Patch: "GENDER Specific Animations" Patch: "SKELETON Arm Fix" Reading APSexIdles V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading BBLSmusic V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading BeeingFemale V0(dot)4b (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading EstrusChaurus V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading FNIS V5(dot)1(dot)1 (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading FNISBase V5(dot)1(dot)1 (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading FNISCreatureVersion V5(dot)1 (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading FNISSpells V5(dot)0(dot)1 ( 0 furniture, 0 offset, 9 paired, 0 kill, 0 alternate animations) (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading PrivateNeeds V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading SexAddicts V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading SexLab V1(dot)59c (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading SexLabCreature V1(dot)59c (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading SexLabDefeat V?(dot)? (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading ZaZAnimationPack V6(dot)0(dot)0 ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 paired, 0 kill, 0 alternate animations) (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading zzEstrus V1(dot)2 (dot)(dot)(dot) All Anim Lists scanned(dot) Generating Behavior Files (dot)(dot)(dot) No GENDER directory Animations\male\ No GENDER directory Animations\female\ Generating animationsetdatasinglefile(dot)txt (dot)(dot)(dot) Create Creature Behaviors (dot)(dot)(dot) Reading SexLabCreature V1(dot)59c (dot)(dot)(dot) mt_behavior usage: 18(dot)2 % ( 26 furniture, 29 offset, 0 alternate animations) 0_master usage: 3(dot)2 % ( 9 paired, 0 kill animations) 2666 animations for 15 mods successfully included (character) 322 animations for 1 mods and 18 creatures successfully included(dot) Utilities: • SKSE: 1(dot)7(dot)1 • Nexus Mod Manager 0(dot)52(dot)3 • BOSS v2(dot)3(dot)0 • LOOT (Standalone) 0(dot)60 - Note that the Load Order listed above is pre LOOT • FNIS V5(dot)1(dot)1 PC Specs: OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 RAM: G(dot)Skill Ripjaws Series 16GB DDR3-1600 Storage: Samsung 800 Series 250gb 2(dot)5" SSD (OS) Storage 2: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3(dot)5" 7200RPM (Skyrim Install Location) GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Superclocked CPU: Intel Core I7-4770k 3(dot)5GHz Quad-Core Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth Z87 ATX LGA1150 PSU: Cooler Master V1000 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Sorry about all of those (dot)s, I need to gain some reputation until I can post links I suppose ;P The Fnis Post consistence(dot)txt file is what was shown after I selected the consistence check(dot) Thank you everyone.
XJ347 Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Well I'm no expert... Everything I say is off gut instinct. First off, if mods modify the same game aspect, only one can actually replace it. That can cause crashes EASY. MO is REALLY helpful in finding conflicting assets. NMM is bad, I know it is simple, but its bad. When uninstalling mods it can mess things up. Taking a quick peak at your Papyrus, some things are really messed up. I did notice that Estrus has a lot of errors. I would dump that mod. Note you need to clean the save with a script cleaner or start over when removing mods with scripts. These came up with errors in the log (this is not all of them), I'm no expert so I don't know WHY they have errors and removing the big offenders might fix the others... RealShelter <-- Estrus <----- !!!!!! Apropos Sutvaka2 DudestiaMultiMarriages PrivateNeedsNew <-- TradeBarter Real Clouds The first two seem to have the most errors, also PrivateNeedsNew. I would remove them start a new game and see how it goes. Sometimes crashing can happen because you overload your system, consider using less HD textures if that is the case. Might also be that your system can handle the HD textures, but you need a memory editor to assign memory blocks better, SKSE.ini editing can fix that or use the SSME mod. Fragmentation can cause slow loading times, if you have a NON SSD. Fragmenting you hard drive can help. Note, don't fragment a SSD!
Alpia Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 If I get a CTD in a specific cell such as a shop in Solitude, I'd reload the save and attempt to recreate the events which lead up to the CTD, yet there is no CTD(dot) Sounds for me like your vram is just full you ctd and after restard everthing is fine until vram fills up again until you again ctd if the ctd's don't occure on a specific location or when using a specific mod its most likley they are memory related issues take a look into: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? even if you don't use enb the parts in that guide that are intressting for you are: -ENBoost Settings if using enb -Sheson's Memory Patch (highly recommended) -SKSE/Memory Blocks Log (highly recommended) for your papyrus errors an error dosen't mean ctd since the ctd's are rnd I again highly doubt they are mod related. I use Estrus and PrivateNeeds with the same error messages without issues, but that dosen't mean its the same for you. Check out the guide I linked try it if it dosen't help try deinstalling some of the mods that cause a lot of papyrus messages as stated in the post above mine. Here is an example of my memory blogs you find that described in the guide: logging of blocks enabled logging max values only Timer disabled Block1 Block2 512MB 256MB 85 8 85 8 85 9 85 10 85 11 ... 317 156 if the first value would hit the 512mb I set for the blocks I would ctd (vanilla skyrim has a 256mb block) so I would crash every xx minutes without Shensons memory patch. The more you play the more the block fills up of course also depending on the area you are in so you might play hours until its full or minutes which describes your problems really accurate I think so its most likley this will help you. Also MO is no magical wonder that increases your performance or anything else if you don't change your activ plugins everyday there is just no advantage you gain with MO. Edit: my system specs are quite similar to yours I even have 1gb more vram and also hat a lot of ctd's until I looked in this guide so I really recommend it regardless of your system specs.
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