Another Skyrim issue, I'm clueless... {Fixed}

[BrittnaySkyfire]

Edited: Nevermind. Got everything sorted relevant to what I was asking and doing.



Some of you who have helped me in the past, know that I'm not a computer-savvy person.

I have a new issue with a fresh installation of Skyrim recently.

This is involving with the LOOT organizer, atleast, I think it is.

I managed to learn over time though with the short amount of time I've been modding Skyrim (Particularly for Devious Devices, but I've gotten curious with other Mods. Not just sexual content either.)

In that effort, when I stall mods, I've managed to install them in the dependency order. Close NMM, run LOOT twice, then run BOSS GUI, then run TES5Edit.

That order has seemed to work until a recent power outage from a storm forced my to reinstall a large part of my games resulting from corrupted files.

Any case.

This issue is preventing my mods from loading, or functioning correctly, and I have no idea how to fix it.

With this, I have Skyrim Installed. No DLC installed, SKSE is installed. I have no mods installed at the moment.

 

[Guest carywinton]

I have never personally used "Loot" , I usually just use BOSS and then check to make sure all the dependencies are there with TESEdit, usually that is enough. Sometimes BOSS will not know what to do with a great many mods, this is where TESEdit is helpful to make sure stuff will load properly. If you do not have a problem being discovered by TESEdit and BOSS, then I would agree with you, LOOT must be corrupted.

[Guest Omega1084]

Don't use BOSS and LOOT.

Use either one or the other separately.

LOOT orders things depending on what they change in-game.

BOSS orders things depending on what people say should be where and it's rather outdated now, just use LOOT.

 

Re-download your tools and mods[LOOT, SKSE, etc.] just in case they're being weird because of the outage.

Make sure everything's installed correctly and activated over again, etc.

Remember you gotta run Skyrim through the launcher the first time before doing anything with SKSE because it needs to generate SkyrimPrefs.ini and Skyrim.ini and all that.

 

Just going through a list of quick checks here, don't mind me if you've already done this~

[BrittnaySkyfire]

Alright.
I've gone pretty much removed everything...

Skyrim is reloading.

What should I start with first after Skyrim installs?

1. Skyrim
2. SKSE
3. NMM
4. BOSS
5. TES5Edit
?

I thought I had read somewhere that for modding that I pretty much need to clean the "edits" of the Update file for Skyrim, as well as the DLC before I install mods? (But, I don't have DLC, so I can ignore that I suppose.)

I guess, more so what I'm asking, do things need to be installed, ran, and done in a certain way prior to downloading / installing / sorting the mods? Or even install Environment mods before installing other mods? (While still following the require dependencies for each mod if required.)

[iBot27]

I recently had similar issues with immediate CTD on a fresh install. My problem was that i had the wrong d3d9.dll for use with my ENB. I recommend that if you are using ENB make sure u have the correct d3d9.dll version installed for your corresponding ENB.

 

Funny thing, I sometimes have to run Loot twice for my game to avoid a CTD for whatever reason. I literally am not changing anything but if I run it twice my game suddenly works??? 

 

Here is a good source with step by step instructions for a clean start:

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited

 

Hope this helps.

[BrittnaySkyfire]

I'm a dummy with all of this anyway, but with what I'm asking, I don't think I've ever heard a direct answer, or any information regarding such in several tutorials I have watched?

I imagine a number of my mods are probably broken, I see there has been an update to several things that has broken some other mods that need to be updated. (Things working with SKSE, it seems.)

[BrittnaySkyfire]

I recently had similar issues with immediate CTD on a fresh install. My problem was that i had the wrong d3d9.dll for use with my ENB. I recommend that if you are using ENB make sure u have the correct d3d9.dll version installed for your corresponding ENB.

 

Funny thing, I sometimes have to run Loot twice for my game to avoid a CTD for whatever reason. I literally am not changing anything but if I run it twice my game suddenly works??? 

 

Here is a good source with step by step instructions for a clean start:

 

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited

 

Hope this helps.

 

Yeah, thing like that, I run to the IT prowess of the BF to fix. (I think the Windows 7 version I'm on doesn't come with Media files installed on it by default, and has to be specially added in through a number of Microsoft downloads that don't get shown in Windows Updates?)

[iBot27]

So is your question, Why is Loot not recognizing any of your mods apart from Skyrim and update ? 

 

Also, forgive me but your last post confused me I'm unsure if you understood what I meant by the ENB's d3d9.dll. It has nothing to do with Windows 7 or it's updates

 

[BrittnaySkyfire]

Erm... Short answer, no I didn't understand anything involving DLL stuff.

Bah. I'll get this figured out... Eventually... Some how...

Since LOOT isn't working for me, should I just stop using it, and switch to BOSS and keep using TES5Edit?

What about the Mod Organizer that is trying to install in half of the mods I try to enable in NMM? I tried that one time, and it keeps want to overwrite every other mods that uses it, I didn't think it was doing anything good if it kept asking me, so I've just been ignoring it everytime it asks, whenever I turn on a mod.

[iBot27]

As someone has already stated, LOOT is better than BOSS, it is more up-to-date. I suggest using Mod Organizer as well since it is basically a fail safe for having to re-install your Skyrim directory. Easy to manage any mod installed and the ability to observe what files are being overwritten and what files overwrite. It definitely has a learnig curve but once you grasp all its capabilities you won't turn back. 

 

I don't mind trying to help you at all, I just need a bit more information and clarification of what your problem is exactly. Is your game unable to load? Are you experiencing crash to Desktop (CDT). I know you mention a problem with LOOT not loading your mods but does the game at least run?

 

In any case, it's up to you if you care to share any information. I'm sure you'll get an answer if you keep up the dialogue with the rest of us.

[BrittnaySkyfire]

The game runs on its own without mods. As does SKSE.

With the SKSE update, and some mods being updated as well, some mods install, get placed in the right order, but simply don't load in-game, other's stop working, and then other's run just fine.

Finding mods I like to use that do not use Skyrim DLC while playing with other mods without issue, and sometimes not even listed on the mods, is a pain...

[Guest]

Alright, I'm really confused by this thread. but I'll try my best to help. You said your mods have worked before the power outage correct? Well if yes, then it's probably a corrupt file somewhere in the computer, what I would suggest, is redownload all the programs you use to install and maintain your skyrim. If your skyrim is bought thru steam, verify integrity of game cache if not, then I guess you'll have to reinstall the whole thing. Now when it comes down to mods, I don't see any other way than to reinstall all mods. Maybe someone else has a better way out of this.

 

When you're uninstalling skyrim, make sure you first uninstall it, and then check all the skyrim associated folders and delete those folders, maybe with an exception to the save files.

 

If nothing works, I guess your best bet is to reverse your computer to a backup prior to the power outage.

 

But like I said, this is what I would do, this is definitelly not the best way out of this situation, I'm just proividing ideas of what I would do in this kind of a situation.

[chevyowner]

i don't use Mod Organizer, but I understand that for LOOT to work with MO you need to run LOOT from MO.

[iBot27]

The game runs on its own without mods. As does SKSE.

 

With the SKSE update, and some mods being updated as well, some mods install, get placed in the right order, but simply don't load in-game, other's stop working, and then other's run just fine.

 

Finding mods I like to use that do not use Skyrim DLC while playing with other mods without issue, and sometimes not even listed on the mods, is a pain...

Any information on which specific mods aren't loading? This could prove helpful as maybe someone might know or have an Idea why they might not be loading. Another thing and this could be a simple overlook and it's happened to me a few times is, make sure that the mod is checked. Now I know that's obvious but there has been times where I install a new mod only to find that I never actually loaded the damn thing even tho I ran LOOT. LOOT will not check the mod for you, it will only place it in a correct Load Order. Make sure your mods are checked and ready to load.

 

Also, I'd say that for the most part there's not too many mods that require DLC. Most function just fine without. There are the occasional few that require DLC but in my opinion it's so minimal that's really a non-issue, at least for me. In my setup of around 240 mods, i think like maybe a handful require DLC. I know everybody's Mod List is different, so again, i'm speaking from a personal perspective and not speaking generally.

Alright, I'm really confused by this thread. but I'll try my best to help. You said your mods have worked before the power outage correct? Well if yes, then it's probably a corrupt file somewhere in the computer, what I would suggest, is redownload all the programs you use to install and maintain your skyrim. If your skyrim is bought thru steam, verify integrity of game cache if not, then I guess you'll have to reinstall the whole thing. Now when it comes down to mods, I don't see any other way than to reinstall all mods. Maybe someone else has a better way out of this.

 

When you're uninstalling skyrim, make sure you first uninstall it, and then check all the skyrim associated folders and delete those folders, maybe with an exception to the save files.

 

If nothing works, I guess your best bet is to reverse your computer to a backup prior to the power outage.

 

But like I said, this is what I would do, this is definitelly not the best way out of this situation, I'm just proividing ideas of what I would do in this kind of a situation.

This is good information as well. I too would take similar steps but I'd probably avoid re-installing Windows but that's just me. If your pc is running fine with the exception of Skyrim then it may just be Skyrim and maybe a fresh install will clear any bad/corrupt files.

 

i don't use Mod Organizer, but I understand that for LOOT to work with MO you need to run LOOT from MO.

Although this is true, OP states that she is using NMM with thoughts of using Mod Organizer. If she were to use Mod Organizer, then yes, she would have to run LOOT through Mod Organizer. The internal LOOT for Mod Organizer is an older version as well so if using the Up-To-DATE version of LOOT with Mod Organizer, one would have to set up the executable accordingly.

 

And seeing as I no longer use NMM, I'm really out of ideas except for maybe rearranging your load order manually and seeing if that does anything. 

 

You need to use process of elimination to debug the problem. Try every angle and see if anything can make your game work as intended, if not, a fresh install will be a better way to troubleshoot.

[BrittnaySkyfire]

Apologies; Was away for some time from the computer. (Boo, work! )

I'm trying a little something different with this go around after all of the mods have had time to update recently with the new SKSE update.

Downloading the mods manually, importing them in NMM (I've been hearing and reading around NMM has a few issues with it when downloading some mods to the client?), then use a mod organizer of some sort, followed by FNIS after running the mod organizer, and then the last step is to run TES5Edit before loading SKSE to being playing.

But I'm still going to need a Mod Organizer I think.
Never really heard of Mod Organizer until it was offering to bring in some sort of optional ini adjustment inside some mods that I was getting.

I'm currently in the process of re-downloading all of the new update mods those, so there is time for me to get things organized and hopefully running cleanly.

As to the previous things I was talking earlier that people where confused about; Forget it. I'll bring that up a later post when it becomes relevant once again. My priority at the moment is to get the mods that had brought my into the modding-world of Skyrim first, probably the ones I spend more time with than most of the others. (This being Loverslab, I'm sure you all can guess accurately what that may possibly be related to.)