Trying to get a grasp on HDT

[Caro]

So celebrating my friend getting ESO beta keys, I spent most of my weekend waiting for her to install ESO. I spent my time cleaning my skyrim and uninstalling all mods, then started from scratch reading up on every mod I installed and took notes while installing and reading.

 

But alas, I have finally met my maker, and her name is physics. I couldn't really find a single thread to ask for help in since there are many different HDT mods that I am currently struggling with. I'll try to be detailed in hope that someone can just point out where I went wrong and I can finally move past these HDT issues of mine.

 

I want a character in skyrim that has all the best HDT functions installed, and with that I mean; I want a character who has jiggling breasts, butt, belly, hair and preferably some rags with a few jiggles and wiggles, as well as a belly that can expand when pregnant, and jiggle and distort. Maybe also breast collision just for good measures. I was overwhelmed when I first started browsing the HDT forum here on LL, you guys are a bunch of mad scientists and I love it. 

 

So what I installed in hopes to achieve such a flexible character are the following: (top to bottom - oldest to newest in installation order)

Calientes CBBE

xpms 1.93a

realistic ragdolls and force

cbbe 2k textures with 2k spec and normals

Enhanced character edit

showracemenu precache killed

the joy of perspective

idle animation with collision

Bodyslide 2 and outfit studio + conversion reference for OS

sexlab framework,

zaz animation pack

defeat

fuz ro doh

SOS 2.04.010

Better Males

HDT PE

HDT body with HDT Bodyslide 1.4

remodeled armor for cbbe bodyslide and bbp

xpms extended

 

 

with these installed via NMM I could make sure the installation order was right. I had a lot of issues when using racemenu and ended up uninstalling it and reinstalling ragdolls, ece and xpms extended. 

I got the breast and butt jiggle working, but I couldn't figure out if I was to link the femalebody_0 and _1 to the hdt.xml as well as the hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml. I downloaded some of the female body nifs linked in the threads on the forums to see how they had it, but I never really found anything conclusive. I got a CTD when I tried linking to both and figured it wasn't supposed to be linked to both. 

with the bodyslide, I chose the HDT CBBE Bodyslide with the preset set to CBBE and I then altered the sliders, 0 to flat belly and 1 to pregnant belly as well as adjusting the other sliders a bit. I also ran fnis after I ran bodyslide for good measures.

 

But where I'm currently at, the breast and butt jiggles, but no belly distortion when having sex, no jiggle when impregnated (although the belly expands correctly). I'm fairly unsure how to enable the rest of the HDT effects. There's also the case that when I do a few too many changes in the showracemenu, the jiggles stop working.

 

So what I need is for someone more knowledgable (pretty much anyone) could point to where I have done something wrong. 

 

PS: Sry for the long text, just not sure where my problems comes from so I figured the more the marrier) Here's a picture, not sure if it's relevant

 

[nidhogga]

I'm kind of in same boat as you are, been a long time UNP/B user and never really bothered with Bodyslide and stuff, but when I recently reinstalled skyrim I went with CBBE for a change and discovered wonderful world of Bodyslide2/Outfit Studio (thanks blabba!), HDT was soon to follow after that.

 

I can share how I got to my setup thats (sort of) working for me atm with jiggle/breast/SoS/belly collision. Basically followed this thread which I assume you are familiar with, only difference is I used 10-24 stable .dll instead, added hdt/m.xmls and stevierage's .xml to SKSE\Plugins folder, tried the premade .nifs other users posted in that thread and they seemed to work so I never even edited via nifscope.

 

Anyways, it should be easy to see if breast collision is working by using one of these idles (try idle 1 or 2). I'll attach .nifs I use currently, path they should end up in is \meshes\actors\character\character assets\*.nif. 

 

If the boobs are reacting to hands as they are in the video shown in idle thread you are basically there. Now, the effect you will get will vary greatly on your body shape and even weight ... for example Stevierage's xml makes my slim character's boobs and butt vibrate at steady rate of 60 Hz while moving while on higher weights it looks really good ... so there's really no set path except getting the collisions working. Next step is tweaking the .xmls but I'm complete and utter noob at all this so I'm afraid I cant really help much with that but you should test and see how the basic stuff is working for you.

 

Anyways hope this will help at least a bit.

 

 

Edit : as for hair and clothes I have no idea, still didnt try to mess with that yet, you should definitely check Enskyments stickied guide in this forum section for that stuff.

 

Edit2 : the racemenu disabling HDT physics is known issue and basically only fix is to save and restart skyrim, it should work again after restart.

nifs.rar