What is this Havok Object?

[Claysson2]

What does it do? Where does it go?

[Claysson2]

I take it nobody knows, I put it in my, and my followers, inventory and nothing happens. 

[pclp2014]

HDT Havok Object is an Armor-Object.

It is defined in the ESP as part of the oufit-/armor sets.

In the mesh of the HDT Havok Object is the Path to the XML added, that has the breast collision.

 

see also: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26835-hdt-breast-collision-for-realy-all-armors-with-3-adjustments-without-hdt-havok-object/?do=findComment&comment=674918

[Claysson2]

HDT Havok Object is an Armor-Object.

It is defined in the ESP as part of the oufit-/armor sets.

In the mesh of the HDT Havok Object is the Path to the XML added, that has the breast collision.

 

see also: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26835-hdt-breast-collision-for-realy-all-armors-with-3-adjustments-without-hdt-havok-object/?do=findComment&comment=674918

To paraphrase Maverick & Goose in "TOP GUN".... What'd she say....? What'd who say?

[Claysson2]

What? Only for Dawnguard or Dragonborn? Low Level characters?

[pclp2014]

HDT Havok Object is a normal mesh, in which the path is set to the xml.

It could also be that any ring for that.

 

To equip it automatically for NPC is in the ESP.

This HDT Havok Object in Most outfit sets entered.

 

The NPC in Skyrim do not wear individual pieces of armor, but, depending on Fraction and level different outfit sets.

 

This outfit sets may consist of several outfit sets.

The hierarchy of the outfit sets can be several levels.

In a hierarchical level also several outfit sets can be registered.

 

It is therefore almost impossible to truly equip all NPC with the HDT Havok object - with outfit sets.

The higher one's level and thus the NPC level, the lower the likelihood of success.

 

For Dragonborn and Heartfire any outfit sets have been edited, to my knowledge.

[Mana Yakushima]

Basically, it "havoks" things (armor) that are bbp/tbbp compatible, so everything doesn't have to be reworked individually to work with HDT.

[bio-nuke]

so is this why NPC's are  getting crushed breast when they sit and boobs stretch out and butt moves up their back when i kill them?  

[johann7124]

so is this why NPC's are  getting crushed breast when they sit and boobs stretch out and butt moves up their back when i kill them? 2014-06-08_00003.jpg 2014-05-21_00001.jpg

 

 

Nope, that usually means that you do not have the correct skeleton installed.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/

 

1.93a rev 50 version

[bio-nuke]

i have xpmse with the HDT checked 

made a HDT and a TBBP presets and outfits 

it's something with the animation, it was doing the same thing when i had sexlab

 

 

it looks like parts are locked from a starting point of animation 

 

[pclp2014]

Make sure you are using the correct HDT PE DLL version.

The author of your XML has certainly made this information.

[bio-nuke]

i have HDTPE 14-28 installed. are you saying to try the backup file from havok 1.2 or the HDT breast physics. i have tried the HDTPE 10-24, 12-29 aready and same deal

[Sunja44]

i have xpmse with the HDT checked 

made a HDT and a TBBP presets and outfits 

it's something with the animation, it was doing the same thing when i had sexlab

 

2014-05-19_00001.jpg

 

it looks like parts are locked from a starting point of animation 

 

Just to be on the safe side...Ragdoll's and Force installed, esp active, but otherwise complete override by XPMS Extended ?

 

The crushed breast and butt syndrome points strongly into the "skeleton issue" direction and usually it's a mistake with overrides when you have several skeleton mods installed.

 

The mesh stretching I am able to watch for a very short time sometimes when I am switching cells, but only for NPCs/followers. It's visible too when you use the moveto player command on a follower.

[bio-nuke]

well to say the least i have been stressing out. i redid the .ini's as i also lost the DOV in realvision ENB. what i really think fixed it was CBBEAdvancedTBBP Reference Skeleton Fix By TheBoneRanger . i use MO so i put it into the overwrite folder. i have more testing to do,but i got jigglies and no crushing or stretching. i'm gonna eat some mint ice cream from basken's as a reward.

[breakthroughtz]

any way to make this player only?

 

[vampiremecha]

i have xpmse with the HDT checked 

made a HDT and a TBBP presets and outfits 

it's something with the animation, it was doing the same thing when i had sexlab

 

2014-05-19_00001.jpg

 

it looks like parts are locked from a starting point of animation 

Dear God, that looks bad...

[Ricocotech]

 

 

 

any way to make this player only?

 

 

 

 

Yeah, you just got to change something in the Creation Kit so that it does not spawn in every NPCs' inventory.

[uglykidcid]

HDT Object adds PUSH physics to your body.  So right now if you breasts jiggle it's because you are moving (running, jumping, falling etc).  If a hand touched your breasts they would not move unless both actor have some form of HDT Object.  HDT obect  can be added to a body part like a hand so you don't need an equipable object but If you use a hand and wear a glove you loose the physics.  PC can use the head mesh but head meshes ONLY works on PC.  It NEVER NEVER NEVER works on NPCs so somtimes males NPC use hand.

 

The problem:  Skyrim physics is not that great so if you run around with HDT Object equipped all the time you get smushed breast and other similar issues.  Better to just equip it when you really want it.

[xXDeliteXx]

i have xpmse with the HDT checked 

made a HDT and a TBBP presets and outfits 

it's something with the animation, it was doing the same thing when i had sexlab

 

2014-05-19_00001.jpg

 

it looks like parts are locked from a starting point of animation 

Necromorph Vagina!!

This thread is scary lol it creeps the shit out of me also when I have to regenerate the racemenu face after bodychange.

if mixed together with these bodies.. omg...